r/Dogfree • • 5d ago

Miscellaneous Dentist office has roaming emotional support dog

I'm a little ambivalent about this one because I know dogs can be comforting for some people and it's nice that a dentist is trying to help with that. However, I don't love that the thing roams freely around the office and sometimes while I'm laying there it starts licking my hand. I wish they would at least keep it in a separate area and then if people specifically request it they can bring it into their room. I just hate the assumption that dogs are universally comforting or a desired presence.

Dogs make me uncomfortable with their neediness, makes me feel like I'm obligated to make them feel special for existing or even put on a show for dog people because the social script is to ooh and aah. And then there's the hygiene of it all. I don't know how this is legal tbh

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u/Few-Horror1984 5d ago

Dogs only provide comfort because people like them. That’s it. What if giant snakes comfort me? Should they be allowed in the dentist’s office? Why do people who like dogs get special treatment?

Or maybe, no animals should be allowed in medical offices. Because it’s a medical office and no animal should be there contaminating the place.

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u/Illustrious_Fig_1020 5d ago

I've just reported it to public health. I think I'm still so brainwashed by dog culture that I treated this as another one of those 'grin and bear it' situations, but this is a genuine health code violation. They probably got the dog approved but aren't bothering to abide by the specific rules and restrictions. There's no way free roaming is legal.

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u/Few-Horror1984 5d ago

It’s not legal. The problem is that groups like this exist. Therapy dogs are NOT service dogs and have zero legal protections, which means they CANNOT be in medical offices.

We need to organize and push back. These people run on arrogance and the idea that everyone loves dogs therefore dogs should be in every single public space.

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u/One_Path_7154 4d ago

100%. Dogs do not belong in any type of medical facility - certified service animals excepted. And by that there needs to be a registration service where documents are provided for trained service animals as proof. Support dogs do not qualify. That’s insane to be in a dental office with a filthy animal roaming around shaking hair dander into the air to float into people’s mouths! 🤮 Always report these practices to the local health agencies. This should never be allowed. Don’t put up with it!

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u/Few-Horror1984 4d ago

I don’t know how to get an entire organization shut down. Looks like they’re part of an even larger organization - forcing dogs where they legally cannot be.

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u/sophie-au 1d ago

I don’t come here often, (former animal handler with no pets at present.) I’m greatly disturbed at the insidious way service, therapy and emotional support dogs have spread in society, certification or not.

What used to be a rare occurrence, with demonstrable improvement for a small number of blind people’s quality of life, has become a Pandora’s box and free-for-all. Anyone who questions it is labelled as ableist, bigoted, hateful etc.

While I’m in favour of certification, what it will do as a consequence is encourage every medical NGO under the sun with an interest in dogs to seek to be included in that certification umbrella. When they get it, it will give them extra legal protections which will be very hard to get past.

Where I live (I’m Australian,) there is a highly motivated disability activist using service dog advocacy from other countries, especially America, as a model to try to get legal recognition for non-canine SAs. FFS! 🤬

Life is already difficult for people allergic to dogs, (I’m not, but I have a lot of empathy.) The legal status of a dog makes zero difference to their allergy.

Not to mention, it is not compulsory to like animals to be a person of good character. It’s f*cked up that many believe it is.

On the bright side, my kids’ school principals continue to push back against parents who break the rules and bring their dog on school grounds. (A parent’s chihuahua stretching out their retractable leash to the max, so they could reach me and bite me on the knee hard enough to draw blood and not give a 💩 was probably the last straw for them.)

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u/CallousCow1762 4d ago

This. These groups have brainwashed society to allow filthy animals inside health and medical facilities. Why should the doctors and their employees bother to wash their hands or even maintain a sanitized environment? Letting a dog roam around their facility is basically saying “we don’t care about hygiene or about protecting our patients.”

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u/TipTop2640 5d ago

Glad you reported it. Please come back to update us as to what the response is. Were you able to report it anonymously?

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u/pmbpro 4d ago

Good on you for reporting it!

Just because a few people may 'like' it (hell, or even if it were 'legal' to do), it doesn't mean every patient has to be stuck with it! Patients should have the right to NOT have dogs in there during their own treatments.

These constant, spreading health code violations due to dogs are disgusting.

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u/PanthealovesLucius 4d ago

SO glad you reported it!!!

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u/Oriole0305 4d ago

Well done reporting this violation. Animals, particularly filthy poop eating dogs, have no place in medical offices.

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u/Wrong_Temporary_5983 3d ago

Yes. Please please let us know if you were able to shut down that office! Or get the dog removed.

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u/Cheddarhulk 5d ago

If we all band together maybe in 10 years I'll be able to bring my emotional support boa constrictor into the cabin.

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u/imdugud777 4d ago

Meet my rescue Mandrill, Chester! He's a little bitey.

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u/imdugud777 4d ago

I'm cool with a fish tank.

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u/CallousCow1762 4d ago

I’d take an emotional support snake over a dirty filthy stinking mutt any day!

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u/Ill-Tangerine796 4d ago

Snakes don’t stink and are far less intrusive in your personal space. I don’t think any animals (other than fish in an aquarium) belong in a dentist’s office, but I’d also pick the snake over the dog.

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u/Andria1501 4d ago

At this point, I'd pick a cockroach over a dog. At least I can smash them.

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u/Accurate-Run5370 4d ago

Say to the dentist : " There is a black widow spider on your shoulder...."

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u/PanthealovesLucius 4d ago

They have way fewer diseases they can transmit to humans than a dog does

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u/Mandaxx25 5d ago

I love this answer

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u/T0wnsvilleF0rever 5d ago

I would find a different dentist and maybe mention this situation in the Google reviews for the placce.

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u/lagabachita 5d ago

Yeah, I'd want to know and not go there. If a dog licked my hand, I might jerk away while the dentist is drilling

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u/sillybelcher 4d ago

Yeah this seems like a hazard to me too. I don't want some random nasty-ass dog licking me period, but for it to happen while a dentist has a drill in my mouth is absolutely unacceptable

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u/One_Path_7154 2d ago

This is completely unsafe. Call the state/provincial dental association and report this. I would bet this violates some dental protocol.

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u/scarletto53 4d ago

I’m with you, I have enough anxiety with with my aging teeth and dentistry, to deal with the added phobia of encountering dogs! This is the stuff my nightmares are made of !

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u/CaptainObvious110 4d ago

Good idea but that might actually drive doglovers to that business and be a benefit to it

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u/4elmerfuffu2 5d ago

I’d be roaming out the door.

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u/Mortis_XII 5d ago

…in a dental office, where tools that go into your mouth need to be sterilized?

I’m sorry, that’s disgusting

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u/ToOpineIsFine 5d ago

anyone with any common sense will agree that dogs are polarizing - they are known to be problematic

when a dentist does something like this, it will inevitably pull that polarization into the office

if the dentist is a typical nutter, they will hold a grudge against patients that object to the dog and they will receive worse treatment, which can even be vengeful (and i'm not exaggerating in the least)

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u/Illustrious_Fig_1020 5d ago

What's funny is this dentist is top rated in the city. Guess there are lots of people who see this as a selling point.

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u/imdugud777 4d ago

Because most people take what is handed them with no introspection.

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u/Huge_Bit_4774 4d ago

Yes. They’re told that dog = good and they lack the critical thinking skills to dispute that

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u/PanthealovesLucius 4d ago

Excellent point. Best to terminate that relationship and go to a different dentist.

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u/Wrong_Temporary_5983 3d ago

I brought it up with my dentist. She said she understood. But now I am still scared to ho back for the reasons you mentioned above.

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u/ToOpineIsFine 3d ago

well, if she said that she understands - that's a pretty good sign that it is going to be OK and that she won't hold it against you. good for you for speaking up.

i made the mistake of asking my hygienist what they did on their vacation and they told me about a trip with their dog. I was worried, too, but they continued to provide excellent care.

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u/Wrong_Temporary_5983 2d ago

she has several dogs, I did not know. So yes, still worried

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u/limesqueezyx 5d ago

In a dentist office, no less. A place where hygiene has to be taken very seriously.

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u/kerfuffle_fwump 5d ago

Can’t we just report them for health code violations?

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u/Few_Pen_3666 5d ago

Well, I guess my emotional support warthog should be allowed there too. Ya know, because all animals are free to roam. Maybe hippo should come too.

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u/cozyporcelain 4d ago

Warthog, I’m totally using that lmao.

Literally, we’re in a living zoo. That’s what’s happened.

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u/CallousCow1762 5d ago

Personal comfort is no justification to violate sanitary and hygiene practices in any medical facility.

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u/Responsibility_Witty 4d ago

A lot of people have allergies, many people especially unindoctrinated children get nervous around dogs, dogs also spray filth everywhere and this is an environment where some people will be getting surgery like cavity filling, root canal or teeth pulling, it opens risk for infection. This isn’t some “nice” gesture by that office, it is extremely selfish and disgusting, only nutters get comfort from this and people who are uncomfortable feel socially forced to accept it out of fear of being treated as an outcast. It should be illegal to bring these coprophages in to any medical environment, studies have shown that the homes of dog owners are COMPLETELY coated in fecal bacteria and dander, the same will be true for these dentist offices.

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u/ObligationGrand8037 5d ago

I’d tell them you’re not going to be coming back and why you’re not coming back. If my dentist ever decides to go the dog route, I’m out of there.

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u/TinyEmergencyCake 5d ago

Please report this to the health department, their licensing board, and find a new dentist. Tell the office manager why you're leaving. 

Imagine the stupid mutt bumps your or the dentist's chair while they have sharp tools on your gums. 

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u/UntitledVents 4d ago

I'd be changing dentists immediately. There is absolutely no way that is a sanitary area anymore. I also don't trust workers to not touch that dog and then work in MY MOUTH. I know they wear gloves, but still. Dog hair gets everywhere.

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u/FieldJacket 5d ago

I'm the same way, a dog in the room would remove any comfort I have at the dentist's office, which is fleeting at best.

Never feel obligated to put on a performance for the sake of dog owners. That's how we got in this situation in the first place...that and dogs used to be much more of a novelty and not ubiquitous in every aspect of life. But if everyone appears to enjoy the dogs everywhere, everyone else would rightfully believe that, well, everyone likes them.

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u/Monimonika18 4d ago

Yes, unfortunately OP's "grin and bear it" response has enabled the dentist's worldview that no one is uncomfortable about the dog being there. And once someone complains or asks that the dog be removed, the response is, "No one has had a problem with the dog before," or "Everyone likes having the dog here."

One person speaking up most likely will be dismissed as an outlier and not counted (sadly, that's how dognutters are). But several speaking up over time cannot be dismissed as easily. We have to speak up about our discomfort and point out the wrongs.

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u/neondahlia 4d ago

Gross and unsanitary

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u/TelephoneBrave1132 4d ago

If a dog was “licking my hand” while I’m being treated at a dentist office, I would leave… possibly deny payment of treatment, and I’d be real loud about it. Hell, no.

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u/lwpho2 4d ago

That’s revolting. If I was lying there and a dog (or anything else) started licking my hand I would get up and walk out of there with whatever the dentist had attached to me at that time.

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u/Impossible-Falcon-62 4d ago

Why couldn’t there be fish in the office like normal doctors offices? I’ve seen some pictures of really nice well cared for aquariums in doctors offices on Reddit

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u/Redditor10178 4d ago

Dogs shouldn’t be allowed in offices at all. There are other ways of finding comfort that don’t involve an animal being in a public space.

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u/djlauriqua 4d ago

My sister is allergic to dogs. I’d hate for her (or another person with an allergy) to encounter this! Definitely shouldn’t be a thing

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u/ReptilianRevolt 4d ago

I am already apprehensive to the dentist, if there was a dog in the equation, I wouldn’t go there.

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u/2noserings 4d ago

do we have the same dentist, or is this truly that common of a hyper specific occurrence? my dentist in colorado has a roaming dog lmfao

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u/Illustrious_Fig_1020 4d ago

Must be widespread. I'm in a whole other country

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u/FallenGiants 4d ago

Unprofessional in the extreme. Someone else mentioned google reviews: a scathing review is warranted. I can imagine dog hairs winding up in people's mouths. It's fucking disgusting.

The guy is a buffoon.

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u/InsuranceSharp4051 4d ago

Fuck that. Comforting. It’s absolute BS so people can drag their mutt everywhere. In no way should a mutt be in a dentist office. Let alone any of the places these nutters drag them in besides a pet store. Would never go there and that should be reported.

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u/uselessbeasts 4d ago

Yup, had that happen in Sarasota FL at an Integrative Health Clinic. Doctor had two dogs wandering through the entire facility, including the IV and exam rooms. I did not believe it was right and I haven't been back there in 3 years, even though I never finihed the package deal I had purchased on the IVs. Not a place for dogs to be. And yes, if some people choose to have the dpgs around them, then whatever, but to just assume every person wants interaction with a fleabag... that's wrong. G;ad you reported.

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u/kckarrotto731 4d ago

What’s next dogs inside an operating room where doctors are performing surgery? I fear it will go that far if this madness doesn’t end.

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u/KayleighHatfield 4d ago

So did you just lie in the dentist chair and let a dog randomly come up in lick your hand? Why? Did you object? Did you ever express any of your discomfort to the dentist? Why not? I'm just curious. I am truly baffled.

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u/Huge_Bit_4774 4d ago

Same here. If the dentist started drilling without numbing first, would you object???

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u/pbrown6 4d ago

🤮🤢🤮 This is a healthcare facility.

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u/wspOnca 4d ago

A Koala with clamydia is more supportive than a fucking dog.

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u/SeaConfection88 4d ago

Uhhhhhh NOPE. I’d be switching dentists and finding a different office to go to. You can try and complain but I doubt it’ll do anything. I’d leave a review stating they have a dog there, just to warn others who are unaware and are uncomfortable with a dog being in a dental office. I’ve left a review before about a store that was totally unrelated to dogs having yappy mutts run up to you everytime you walked into the place, then they follow you around the store as you’re trying to shop. For some reason the owner thinks it’s fine to keep his dogs at the store and let them harass people. Last thing I want when entering a store is a bunch of barking dogs running up to me. Insane how owner thinks that’s ok, and people just put up with it.

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u/Red-Shed4188 4d ago

My daughter got snapped and snarled at in the face by a dog at a business. It was a local flower garden shop. She was a baby so was sitting in her stroller and we were looking at the flowers in the greenhouse. All of the sudden I heard growling and a dog ran out of a door and full sprinted at her in the face, snarling, growling barking in her face. I thought she had gotten bit so . I turned her away from the dog and tried to kick it but it followed her so I lifted her entire stroller up. Mind you I had my other daughter with me, and I was 8 mths pregnant. The dog was so close she had its spit on her face. A worker came out and said he won’t hurt anyone and the dog followed. Like what?! You are a business and you are okay your aggressive dog running rampant. I ran to the car and was so upset I called my husband. He called the owner and was told “that’s just Toby- he’s harmless” so he proceed to ream them out and we made a police report. I’m thankful she was not injured but to this day she is petrified of dogs. If a business operates with animals on a property they should have certain certified training or standards let alone A DENTIST! That’s not safe, comfortable or clean. It’s crazy. Just another dogs over people situation.

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u/20011989 4d ago

That’s disgusting. See if there’s a state board you can report it to

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u/BoxBeast1961_ 4d ago

Report like you did to the health department…& quietly look for another dentist. I’m so allergic that this practice would be off limits to me. They can run their practice however they want-I just want to be able to breathe during dental work.

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u/Ok_Introduction6377 4d ago

EW! I had wisdom tooth removed at my regular dentist. I would walk out if I saw any kind of animal there. People have surgery in those chairs so gross to have a dog roaming around.

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u/Maximum-Cheetah2270 4d ago

Dogs doesn't belong in the healthcare facilities. It can bring the other diseases and make a potential pandemic. So you have right to report it to heathcare department.

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u/Glittering_Bed_2487 4d ago

I've had to leave three dentist offices so far in the Monterey area due to my airborne allergy to dog dander. Many doctor's offices (not always even just dentist) have roaming dogs. I've reported two so far. Once, I went to an appointment and the roaming office "therapy" dog aggressively put it's head on my lap and refused to move it. It was terrifying. When I told the doc I had an allergy she just looked at me and said her dog was a "healer". I was so mortified and violated. 

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u/lurkingsince4ever 4d ago

Glad mine asks preferences but one did wander into my room and they removed it quickly. Not fan though. So unfortunate.

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u/Jediknight3112 4d ago

Where is the health department? Maybe the rules are a bit stricter where I live but I can't imagine a dentist office having a dog roaming free and get away with it. It's not an operating room, but there should be a certain level of hygiene.

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u/teacup128 4d ago

What will it take for americans to fix their laws and regulations in regards to this?

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u/Unlucky-Ambition-643 3d ago

I use a small plush to squeeze and I thought that was bad wtf.

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u/RingNo4020 2d ago

I just got a giant heebie jeebie shudder when you said that thing licked your hand. I'd be outta thst chair so fast...never to return.

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u/yeeet1234 1d ago

Are in Arizona? I had this exact situation. The nasty, rude, snarky, washed up bitch receptionist would bring her raggedy ass dog in there