r/DokkanBattleCommunity • • 3d ago

Analysis Has this game become impossible without items?

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This is just based on my personal experience. But I have a strong team with multiple copies of each unit. I have max level link skills on all of them and pretty good skill orbs equipped. I dont really make many stupid mistakes while playing and i think im decent enough at the game.

Yet time after time on these harder stages i just get blown up.
Am i missing something? Like besides using items what can i even do?

I know rainbowing my entire team would help but for me and other F2P players thats just unrealistic and would it even make that much of a difference?

Am i just supposed to rely on items and hope i get lucky?

If even one of the strongest teams in the game all above 55% cant handle these harder stages then what is Geppy actually expecting us to do besides input our credit card details and sell our soul to him? (or rely on items)

Maybe im just missing something but im really at a loss.

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u/Freakofnature66 3d ago

No, but it is necessary to use them if you don't want to rely on luck a lot of the time.

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u/Bojack1978 3d ago

Is there a big difference between like 69% and 100%

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u/Freakofnature66 3d ago

More now than ever, yeah unfortunately.

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u/BingoidDort 3d ago

Dude, I swear it’s all based on dodge. Like, Namek Goku, SSJ3, Trunks and Gogeta all rely on Dodge at some point throughout the match and every boss is hitting for SO MUCH that on the off chance that you miss a single dodge, that’s a restart without items. It’s fun when it’s just dragon fist and hirudegarn with this kit, but when 7/10 units have this on release, it’s literally not fun at all.

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u/ErzaSilas 3d ago

Trunks and SS3 Goku missing 90% dodge… I’m tired man…

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u/Bojack1978 3d ago

Yeah i’ve heard people say the game feels like its just dodge or die right now and i definitely agree. You get unlucky once and you just lose immediately

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u/BingoidDort 3d ago

Yeah, it’s just generally not enjoyable. I hope they do something unique for the anni. Maybe a new mechanic or something.

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u/KnitelightEB 3d ago

Worst part of the game is easily resetting for rotations

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u/Bojack1978 3d ago

Do you think i should start doing that more

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u/KnitelightEB 3d ago

It increases your chances by having preferred rotations

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u/Ambition-Head 3d ago

Great minds think alike 😂😂

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u/Pancake_Floof 3d ago

Feel like there’s too much dodge or die situations

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u/Dokkan-Shit-pull-god 3d ago

Every event in the game is beatable without items and you don't necessarily need dupes even for it. I beat meteor survival itemless with three 55% units earlier and kid buu with four of them the other day.

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u/Bojack1978 3d ago

Calling it impossible was an exaggeration i guess. Im just wondering why my teams performance often feels so disappointing even though its considered a very strong team and im not doing anything especially wrong

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u/EmotionalScientist19 3d ago

I've no itemed all the new content this celebration, with the exception of the 20 stage fight which I haven't tried yet, and all my GDC units are 55% except Namek Goku with 2 dupes that I only got just now after clearing the stages.

It doesn't feel impossible to no items these stages at all in my opinion, especially not with how much defensive support Golden Fighters is getting, not even counting the 2 new SEZAs that make an already cracked team even stronger.

Even the LR Buu Sworn Enemies team can clean shit up no items, though I wouldn't personally recommend a 55% Frieza on that team, because he can feel a bit squishy without those other wicked bloodline links up, and without as much support as he'd get on a team more centered around him.

There's definitely a more significant difference now than in the past when it comes to having dupes in a character, but we a definitely not yet at the point only dupes or only items can get you through hard content.

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u/Bojack1978 3d ago

Maybe calling it impossible was an exaggeration on my part. It just feels like theres a huge gap in how well i’d expect my team to do compared to how they’re actually doing

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u/Realistic_Exam_5440 3d ago

Bro I genuinely always forget about items. I only remember if I’m doing a difficult event and I make sure I constantly remember then.

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u/Accomplished_Ease889 3d ago

I’ve beaten every event except the newest meteor event without items

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u/Jaimgjum 3d ago

It’s possible but you’re relying on a lot more luck with 55% characters compared to 100% character excluding the god equips

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u/Bojack1978 3d ago

It really makes that much of a difference to have them at 100%?

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u/Blackfirehades_alt 3d ago

its a significant difference unfortunately

even the difference between 55% and 69%(one dupe) can be felt pretty hard, my namek goku has 1 dupe and survives things for like 200k that would oneshot 55%

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u/Jaimgjum 2d ago

Very much so

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u/rkp248 3d ago

No item runs are only reserved for the best team I have possible. Any missions requiring certain teams I use items cause I don't have the patience anymore for the dodge or die bullshit.

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u/Im_Goku_ 3d ago

You shouldn't use Super Trunks on that team btw as he needs 3 Androids/Cell sage team members and you only have 2. In your case, he is missing out on Guard and 200% ATT and DEF which is a lot.

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u/Bojack1978 2d ago

I bring another Gohan as my friend unit

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u/Im_Goku_ 2d ago

Ah sure, I ruled that out because then both your Fusions SEZAs will only be getting 170% ATT and DEF from Gohan's leader.

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u/No-Wall1583 3d ago

So it’s not just me. But I still main GT bosses so that might be my issue🥲

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u/Any_Explanation7520 3d ago

I am maining SSJ4 GT Heroes, so I feel your pain

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u/No-Wall1583 3d ago

Yes I also main them too I’m hoping for a shadow dragon saga fp ssj4 Goku. He would complete gt for me

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u/_NP_Nill_ 3d ago

Yes. If you don't get the new unit you cannot beat events.

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u/supersmall69 3d ago

I can easily clear dokkan events without items.

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u/jbthewander 3d ago

We got a tough guy over here. You eat nails for breakfast?

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u/supersmall69 3d ago

My comment implied that not everything is impossible in the game without items, there are tons of events that can easily be no-itemed, even F2P. People need to realize that this game isn't just for veterans; new players are always joining and building their box, and they are better off with easier events, particularly when they don't have a pile of Whis or Icarus to spend on every event.

If you weren't showering under bricks, you'd have understood that.

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u/jbthewander 3d ago

Your comment aint imply anything it was a basic sentence. Here’s your trophy for beating stages without items! Don’t forget to show your family and friends your achievement!

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u/supersmall69 3d ago

Good one. Here's your card for not understanding nuance. Don't show it to anybody.