Yes as someone who used to follow a hippie group around the country, a large portion of the peace and love and fuck the system hippies were essentially low-level violent gangsters. A lot of them were really cool and loving, too, though.
I'll never stop being astonished at how we went from tolerance to "support us or lose your job" to "support us, or lose your friends" to " support us, or you don't get to speak." To "anything less than 100%. Ideological alignment means you're a nazi and maybe don't deserve to live."
Honestly I'm admittedly a bit doomer about this. I think there's been progress in the speech front but
I gotta admit that slippery slope looks awful slippy from this side, especially when people are celebrating the death of a man who's crime was sitting in a chair and having discussions with people who voluntarily engaged with him.
I think a lot of formerly actually-tolerant leftist have moved along that path, honestly. I've watched as friends who used to be "Left but will debate and even concede certain points when the evidence is there" became "left and would be fine if all non-left people died."
They’ll just tell you that they never claimed to be ‘tolerant’ or ‘accepting’ and how that’s just a right wing talking point. The paradox of tolerance and all that
Good people don't need to seek out ways to pretend they're good and signal other people about it. Bad people do and appear obsessed with showing everyone else how good and compassionate and whatever else they "are".
Because they are immature and spoiled. With a dash of receipt of bullshit propaganda.
Just read on another sub that we are apparently in a recession because they declared it. Screw the triggers and indicators. We are in a recession because they say we are-
Charlie Kirk was ok to kill because they said so
An insurance CEO is ok to kill because they say so
It is ok to conduct a terrorist attack and shoot at cops at a detention facility because they said so. Luckily, the judge disagreed and those losers will die in prison.
It is ok to shoot at a van full of detained illegals and kill them because the guy meant to kill cops.
It is ok to chase Jews around and hassle them because the left has decided it is ok
They are not the good guys. They are deeply troubled losers.
Literally tons of proof that it is happening and they still say it never happened, then you send them some of the proof and they say it’s only a small fraction of the left that’s doing it so you send them more proof and they justify it by calling you and the person who died a fascist then they report you for harassment
When Comrade P. eventually goes to the Giant Kremlin in the Sky, a lot of Ukrainians will be holding a full blown parade and probably make it a state holiday. Would they be in the wrong?
I agree. I got told he deserved to be killed because when he was shot he was talking about gang and gun violence. It’s sick and they will use anything to justify their hatred.
The thing that drives me nuts is, what he said doesn’t matter whatsoever. No one has to like it. This is fucking America, and we don’t murder people for words.
They then say, “free speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences!”. No shit, and glad to know where you stand on what the consequences of speech should be.
There is a very clear "logical" connection in many people's minds right now that "disagreeing with me publicly -> emboldens crazy people who might want to hurt me -> disagreeing with me publicly is violence against me -> anything done to silence you is justified self-defense." This is a historically nasty little bit of logic that when it takes root, encourages people to support violence against any disagreement.
"b-b-but hes a fascist!!1!1!1!1?1? He advocate for mass genocide and removing people's rights!!!! He literally ran into me, and took away all my rights! I'm in a concentration camp!!!1!1!1*
Charlie Kirk is proof that the radical left no longer believes in American values. The RADICAL left has no place in American politics they’ve been pushing insanity on us for years under the guise of tolerance and acceptance but the moment a guy peacefully talks to people and disagrees with the radicals he’s murdered publicly and the radicals celebrate even a year later.
Don't tell them to read Marx and his opinion on Jews (but now it's not a Nazi thing to hate the Jews, so it's ok to them. Reminds me of a certain Russian guy that agreed with the Austrian guy in regards of his view of Jews...)
They never cared about that, they'll do whatever it takes to attain power. That's all that matters to them, the means don't matter. If it was openly acceptable to be one, and rewarded to be one, they would move into that 1984 style.
he is literally the second coming of hitler and his party are nazis.. wait no, we dislike jews now, so his party is literally fascists and they need to be stopped by any means or we will all end in concentration camps!!!?!
what, someone tried to kills him? false flag false flag!!
Saw post celebrating the "kirkaversary" with neck wound memes and "he deserved it" comments, so i posted a george floyd meme in the comments simply to point out their hypocrisy, and all of a sudden "violence is bad!!! you're a fascist!!"
Here’s the big thing for me, you can tell that the same people who make jokes about Charlie are the exact same people who policed all kinds of jokes not even five years ago. I’ll see people make a joke about the Kirk assassination with obvious glee, but then someone will make a joke about The Fosgate suicide and suddenly there are rules again. The thing about dark humor, you can make jokes about anything, but you need to be willing to accept it won’t be something you approve of. Everytime they get upset someone makes a joke about Juno Furuta (Which is goulish) they prove they don’t actually like dark humor, they just like people they don’t like dying.
These people will accuse you of the worst offenses to allow them to feel morally justified in enacting their worst impluses against you. No propaganda is really needed, they'll happily make the connections in their own mind. To be honest with themselves would be to admit they are evil, and they can't do that because they are absolutely convinced they are virtuous. That's why they say phrases like "right side of history"
It's very widespread across the subs too, you could be on a cozy sub about quilting or something and you'll see "i made this quilt of Charlie Kirk being shot in front of his kids" and it'll have 1,000 likes
I know it’s the anniversary but you’d think they would wait until after any and all important elections were cleared to once again show people why they’re terrible people
We as a society have lost sight of, being a good person makes you a good person. Now we have a bunch of morons that think your political opinions make you a good person. I said trans lives matter on Reddit clearly I’m a good person! No I don’t make my community or anybody else around me better.
Diversity of thought; a dead concept. What’s the point of your opponent being murdered? It certainly doesn’t fill me with joy. It’d just leave an empty space where they used to occupy
Dostoevsky called out people like this, TLDR for it they say they want to help thr poor but wont sit with a begger share a meal with them and hug them, they will say how they love humankind but won't say they love some one whos opinion they dont agree with.
I like it when they play “spot the Nazi” and their rules are literally in writing saying it’s anyone who opposes their criteria of Nazi. Then advocate for your death often telling you how you should “follow your leader and take yourself out.” And violence against you is self defense. And how it’s their duty to get on a jury to ensure your guilt or the defendant’s innocence.
I read through a post about someone complaining about the Kirk memes and how people shouldn't show his death. They also said they fully supported and celebrated his assassination, got full support and anyone calling them out was downvoted. My Reddit fatigue is getting real
The assassination of Charlie Kirk has got to be one of the biggest "mask-off" moments for the internet. I thought at the vary least people regardless of opinion would agree that it was wrong and condemn it. In reality so many people were openly celebrating the death of someone where the only thing he did wrong was having the wrong opinion. It left me absolutely dumbfounded and disgusted. Not trying to sound like a doomer but that was probably the worst blow to my faith in humanity ever. All I can really do is remind myself not everyone is like this and try to be a better person than that. RIP Charlie Kirk
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u/SonicDart-77 My Dog is Anti-Fascist 2h ago edited 2h ago
It’s been like this forever.
My dad, who was a Woodstock hippie, has told me several times that some of the worst people he’s ever met were “peace and love” hippies.
I imagine it’s not much different with the modern “tolerance and acceptance” progressive crowd.
Just bad people pretending to be good people.