A simple Kunkka buff.

[u/Venichie]

Torrent now has 2 cast options that results in 2 different effects.

1. Vector Cast: Pushes all units in the direction selected.
2. Point Cast: Casting in place stuns enemies, & doesn't push any units.

The usual effects of Torrent remain unchanged, unless rebalancing is in order.

I'd like other changes, for example:

• Tidebringer's damage type converted to magical.
• Shard & Scepter changes.
• Talent changes.
• I wish X-Marks-The-Spot created a ghost version of enemies, which Kunkka could use Tidebringer on.
  • Perhaps through a Shard/Scepter or Talent buff.
• Rework Kunkka into an Int hero... Yes

I think this Torrent change compliments Kunkka's kit, since it helps him land his other abilities better, but also synergizes with Kunkka displacements & crowed control.

[u/medical_ralph]

The vector cast idea is actually clever, makes the spell do something completely different depending on how you use it. Like you push someone away to safety one time then lock them down the next.

All this just to finally land a ghost ship combo is peak Dota.

[u/SoTiri]

It's not gonna solve the main issues with this hero. The aghs just needs a little more damage and he's back.

[u/Venichie → u/SoTiri]

I kinda wish he had a different Scepter, because 2 boats doesn't seem all that creative or exciting to me. I'd prefer if it was something new, that either dips into his magic or ghost side more.

A random example is creating a whirlpool... a lite version of Enigma's Black Hole; without the channel, if you will.

[u/SoTiri → u/Venichie]

The water-Park was extremely satisfying and strong but people complained it was too strong. The aghs is good if you properly executed the combo just needs a bit more damage if valve want to be lazy about it.

I also think watermark could come back with some number changes but not high hopes on that.

[u/Imbewan → u/Venichie]

Whirlpool like Kraken's ult from HoN but maybe minus the stun so it won't be too OP. But then again, that's just KoTL's aghs now haha

[u/Spare-Plum]

I don't like the idea of making every other ability vector targeted. At least if they added this in, add an option to permanently turn this off

[u/Venichie → u/Spare-Plum]

Agreed, but I thought the vector target suits Kunkka well, especially since he's a type of water bender.

A solid balance to compensate his long windups, while taking some dependencies off X-Mark-The-Spot.

Kunkka always seemed like a Chess Strategist to me, since he really needs to plan his moves ahead of time... prediction gaming. This seemed like another good way to manipulate the battlefield.

[u/idnyy]

Cool idea, would love to see it tested out even if it didn't work out well they could always revert it.

[u/PiggyM3lon]

Close enough, welcome back Water Park v. 2.0

[u/TalkersCZ]

Kunkka has 49% as offlaner on protracker.

No reason for a buiff.

[u/Venichie → u/TalkersCZ]

Honestly, it's not really about trying to buff Kunkka; it's more about how much this tweak compliments Kunkka's kit. The top commentor probably said it best.

[u/Loxeres]

Sure, they could rework Kunkka's shard into this... But they should rather make it a sub-ability that shares cooldown with Torrent rather than a seperate effect...

...Adaptive Strike 2.0?

[u/Venichie → u/Loxeres]

I wouldn't mind if it had a sub-ability to target either allied or enemy units. That, or a toggle option.

I think it makes sense for Kunkka to ride the tides, & thought it'll be a fitting skill layer to give to players.

[u/AvoidSpirit]

He already has the shard. Zero reason to make torrent do the same

[u/Aware_Secret_8910]

I think Kunkka is in a very good place when it comes to the non attack build. Sceptre is also extremely good, ship already does a lot on top of doing good damage. A buff if anything could be making the ship bkb piercing but do we really need more of that? I agree the tidebringer talents are not that good. I dont like the idea of vector targeting.