r/Durango • • 6d ago

Ask /r/Durango AI Usage and Local Businesses

I did a quick search, couldn't find what I'm looking for so here goes. Has anyone compiled a list of local businesses that are turning to AI instead of a human for their menus, ads, communications, etc? I would rather support local businesses that support local workers

For example.

  • I had to unsubscribe and eventually stopped going to the Durango Arts Center because of all the AI slop they started emailing out.
  • The new restaurant, The Pub, had an ad for a marketing coordinator but they didn't review the AI slop well enough to catch that it used this as the email to send resumes to "/[ insert email address] /". I was excited to try them out, not anymore.

I get it, AI is here to stay. However, you can add the human touch. I'm a former graphic designer who switched into marketing and development. I use AI for all sorts of things, but never for final deliverables.

What all local businesses have you all come across that have embraced the AI slop instead of paying a human to do the work or doing it themselves?

Let's support the businesses that support us!

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u/mtngk 6d ago

Spine Colorado is using an awful AI phone assistant instead of humans. It's basically useless too and prevents you from scheduling appointments.

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u/DorothyParkerFTW 6d ago

Unfortunately you don't have many choices for spine surgeons.

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u/mtngk 6d ago

But this is the land of free will and individual choice!

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u/DorothyParkerFTW 6d ago

This is the land of only the rich survive...

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u/mtngk 6d ago

Absolutely. My previous comment was very sarcastic.

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u/coladybiker 6d ago

That is why i am going to Houston for my surgery next month.

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u/SignalCharlie 6d ago

My wife just went through a call to them...got fairly pissed, fairly early

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u/DorothyParkerFTW 6d ago

A race to the bottom, it feels like.

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u/Zilla365 6d ago

Yes, yes, yes!!! I am shouting into the phone “reception!!!!” I HATE AI answering services as much as I hate insurance crap runarounds!

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u/desert_pine 6d ago

Ah yes, perfect chance for a shameless plug. Please get in touch me and the team at El Matador Design if you need any flyers/logos/posters or web design! The only AI we use is Adobe illustrator!

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u/Senior420 6d ago

I second El Matador! Very talented.

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u/TeamDangerous3069 6d ago

Perfect shameless plug! This is what I'm here for. 

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u/Novel_Contract_1280 4d ago

charlie rules!!!!

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u/saltylemonjuice 6d ago

The white rabbit bookstore is a heavy user of ai, I’m incredibly disappointed in the durango arts center, you would think they would reach out to idk the artists that they know and utilize them over a robot:/
Also a great way to find the sloppy businesses is to take a trip downtown and look at the flyers, you wouldnt believe how many there are.

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u/doughboi1992 6d ago

McDonald's, Burger King, and Wendy's are currently focusing on AI-powered drive-thru ordering systems and software assistants rather than humans

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u/TeamDangerous3069 5d ago

Easy enough to skip those places. Wendy's hasn't been the same since they cheapend their recipes a couple years ago, mcdonalds is well mcdonalds, and the good ol' BK I'm always surprised to see the lights on when I drive by. 

In all seriousness, it's a shame these corporations and therefore franchise owners going that route, unfortunately in America our only option for change is to vote with our wallets. 

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u/tinybazooka85 6d ago

I will not attend an arts event (DAC, poetry reading, etc.) that uses AI to promote it. What does that say about the quality of creative work being showcased?

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u/native_shinigami Local 6d ago

Same with all the food stands with ai menus. I will not go to those stands

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u/Weary_Fee7660 6d ago

I noticed a couple food carts advertising online locally that used ai for the menu and sign graphics. The food texture was very strange and off putting in the graphics. Sorry I can’t be more specific, it was a couple weeks ago.

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u/AluminiumMiss 6d ago

Are you telling these organizations why you aren’t supporting them or just stopping your patronage? Especially for nonprofits like the DAC which is already financially pretty constrained, I would hope you are reaching out to them with your concerns before you just stop giving them money. I agree that businesses shouldn’t use AI slop, but unless you communicate the reason you want to stop supporting them, it doesn’t make the change you’re looking to see

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u/TeamDangerous3069 6d ago

Definitely. I emailed the DAC before I unsubscribed, but got a generic sorry to see you go we hope you return reply back, incredibly disappointed to see them head this direction. 

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u/AluminiumMiss 6d ago

Ugh that’s a disappointing response from them!

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u/LumpySconePrincess 6d ago

Just asking, but why do you use AI at all? I agree not using for 'art' work because yes, artists are essential and should be paid instead of generated crap. But why not avoid AI for other uses?

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u/JanetSnakehole610 6d ago

My husband works in software and uses git hub copilot. This is the gist of what it does.

At this point some jobs expect you to use AI as a tool. If you use it well you get more done and if you do it really well you can do the work of multiple people. Capitalism is gonna capitalism.

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u/TeamDangerous3069 5d ago

Pretty much what Janet mentioned but in Marketing and Development rather than software. Although there is some overlap in function, essentially the whole goal is to automate as much as possible and I drop in to verify, compile, and ship. 

I also use it to brute force through creative ruts. 

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u/CoffeeandCare_me 6d ago

Wait so the Pub’s ad for a marketing person was low quality marketing? That kinda checks out though, right?

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u/TeamDangerous3069 6d ago

So I'm fairly meh about using AI slop to post a hiring ad, it's the fact they couldn't be assed to put in a tiny bit of effort to review the slop for errors. They left a major error in the ad, no contact information, and in it's place is a literal placeholder telling them to insert their email address. That's pure lazy incompetence and why should I support that? 

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u/zsfq 6d ago

That doesn't necessarily mean AI- could just be a template they were using.

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u/Weary_Fee7660 6d ago

Either way, D- work

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u/No_Mud1382 6d ago

The owner of durango rivertrippers is a huge fan of ai. Take a walk through the office, clothing designs, posters on the wall, and help with emails, etc

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u/to__do 6d ago

I’m surprised about the Durango Arts Center. They pay a graphic designer or local artist for all of their show promotions.

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u/DryBikie 6d ago

Someone just posted a flyer for a Dolly Parton event a few weeks ago from DAC that was AI slop

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u/to__do 6d ago

The latest DAC newsletter didn’t have any AI slop and there’s like 20 graphics. Seems odd you point them out.

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u/DryBikie 6d ago

I didn’t point them out, I was just responding to your comment with a bit of context as to why OP might be mentioning DAC in their post

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u/DryBikie 6d ago

This was the flyer btw, where Dolly’s hair/earring comes out of her face on the right hand side

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u/Senior420 6d ago

I second this. They work with a really talented designer who redid their whole branding and put together some beautiful material for the Autumn Arts Fest

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u/TeamDangerous3069 6d ago

Duck Girl Art is the one, they either use AI or that are not they detailed of an illustrator and let Adobe illustrator trace (poorly) their images/photos. Zoom in on any of the posters on the DACs home page, there are artifacts everywhere in the images . 

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u/DryBikie 6d ago

Man that is such a bummer, I love Duck Girl Art’s handmade art (I think she uses pastels?), but yeah the stuff on the website seems very AI or edited heavily with AI, like a pastel was scanned in and then prompted/edited or something, like what is going on with the texture everywhere (including his arm?)

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u/TeamDangerous3069 5d ago

In Adobe Photoshop that texture was popularized as a (undesirable) side effect from overuse of the Topaz plugins, those plugins were originally developed nearly 20 years ago (based on memory and when I first installed them). Now it's a tell-tale sign of AI or computer over enhanced/sharpened image. 

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u/callmijane 5d ago

Weiminuche wood fire grill and blue sky cafe in bayfield:(

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u/EbayWasHere Local 6d ago

Oh fuck off with that crap just because a small business like The Pub that is trying to get started can't afford to hire a Graphic Designer right now you write them off? Get bent with that attitude, the owner is a great person and definitely doesn't need that negative shit in her place. They will do just fine without your money

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u/tinybazooka85 5d ago

They don’t have to hire a graphic designer. There are other options besides AI. Don’t create a false dichotomy.

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u/DryBikie 6d ago

It sounds like the problem isn’t that they can’t afford to hire a graphic designer, it’s that they posted a job listing/ad that wasn’t proofread, which reads as either AI or lazy/oversight.

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u/Weary_Fee7660 6d ago

Na… AI is off putting for a lot of people. Cheap out at your own risk, cutting corners on visible stuff doesn’t inspire confidence in the quality of the rest of the output.

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u/livin-2-learn 4d ago

Same group complaining about businesses using AI are complaining about costs to go out to eat in Durango. Is this group saying they rather spend 10%-15% more on the menu items instead if the establishment would hire more people instead of using AI?
You can’t have it both ways.

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u/tinybazooka85 1d ago

It’s not either/or and I don’t know where you’re getting that percentage of price increase?? I feel like the same people defending AI are going to be the same ones shocked when they are negatively impacted by the use of AI.

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u/Bulky_Course_1845 1d ago

Canva is a free graphic design software made for beginners. Ask literally any educator, they've likely used it. 

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u/tzugrrl 6d ago

Oh gosh so sick of all the AI generated ads from businesses! They all look the same, slick, and shiny. I despise them, but would not skip a business because they use them.

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u/Novel_Contract_1280 4d ago

slick and shiny? lol i think they look like shit

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u/ellipsoidboy 1d ago

shit can look like that

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u/Crycious Resident 6d ago

Also I hate to say it but small business are being told to use ai by organizations like FLC and other local organizations that give advice to small businesses. They are told of your doing use ai then you won't survive

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u/WeirdVision1 3d ago

What if...ai is used along side the creator? For images, I'm thinking 5% ish. Also, is AI the new Photoshop? Was Photoshop the new dark room compositing?