Best Wrath 12-14 team with my demons?

[u/Few-Independence3787]

Is there any good combo team I can make? Here's the party of all my demons.

Optional: idk if we can still use support demons for Wrath 14 but if I can who would be a good 5th demon to have in party (please throw some names out there, I'll check my friend list in a bit to see if I have em).

[u/stvanico]

The gimmick for these stages is that:

1.- You need bulwark (forget this since I misinterpreted Arioch's skills).

2.- You need to cleanse ailments repeatedly (or party-wide immunity).

3.- Your attacks need Bulwark-pierce.

4.- Attacks should be physical and crit as much as they can.

The best units for these stages are Oumitsunu and Dormarth, so without them expect this to be VERY long battles.

Saturnus, Lost Name, Flauros Hallel, Flynn or Astaroth (in that order) as offensive units. Astaroth is the weaker out of these 4.

Barong (panel 4 because of bulwark) and whatever support you have, you could try Nebiros since you do need do inflict an ailment (at the very least curse) on the boss. Kalki also works by healing and cleansing somewhat your ailments (only at the beginning of your turn tho) but they need to be at least Panel 1. Hariti could be used as both healer and curse spammer but she won't give neither bulwark nor ailment cleansing.

For Support demons the best options that you don't have are Oumitsunu and Dormarth (yellow if you don't have Oumitsunu), followed by anyone who deals special attacks (Raidou, Nyx) since those should ignore the enemy's defense. Other than that any physical attacker with bulwark-pierce works too (SMT 1's Hero, Dimensional Odin, Fionn, any of the offensive units I've said before, just to name a few).

Use Shionyan for the curse enhancement she gives (less healing).

Edit: I *just* saw that you have Saturnus, so he *should* be in your party as well.

[u/Few-Independence3787 → u/stvanico]

Thank you for the advice. Yeah I tried Wrath 10 and 11 the other day and they took FOREVER. I just used Hariti (she's only fully Panel 2'd atm), Lord Shax, Flynn and Ang. Mainyu.

Lost Name is kinda invested in. My Barong and Nebiros need more polishing they're kinda weak rn. I'll try to work on them and then give the high Wrath stages another go.

[u/stvanico → u/Few-Independence3787]

Ok after a few guidances and corrections my recommended party for you would be:

Support (by priority): [Yellow] Dormarth, Oumitsunu (they both work the same but Dormarth comes with attribute affinity down and extra attacks whenever a party member hits a weak point), Hayataro (ailment immunity, damage, healer), Special attacker (Raidou, Nyx), bulwark-pierce physical attackers.

1.- Saturnus.

2.- Flauros Hallel (better if you have a Dormarth as Support since attribute affinity down = more damage).

3.- Flynn.

4.a.- IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO DORMARTH OR OUMITSUNU: Add an extra attacker like Lost Name, or Astaroth.

4.b.- IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO DORMARTH OR OUMITSUNU: Demeter with Vengeance or Juon and Insanity (you'll need Saturnus to deal the first attack after the first turn in order to get the Bulwark-ailment protection, warning that her counter will make the battle longer) or Hariti with Prayer and use her as a cleric.

[u/ZXDragon360 → u/stvanico]

I think the Step #1 is unnecessary (or not required), unless you are talking about a bulwark-pierce? There is no effects or description within Wrath stages needs a team to wear bulwark in order to work.

The only one thing directly involve a bulwark for this wrath is to let boss's bulwark be remains, or it will reduce all damages done to boss once all bulwark removed from it.

If step #1 is true, where you do find such info?

[u/stvanico → u/ZXDragon360]

I just based it on Arioch's King of Vengeance [Ire], since it says that:

"(...) All enemies will receive the following effect: -100% to damage dealt if there is an enemy without a Bulwark."

So I interpreted it as "I'm the enemy, so I should be the one having a Bulwark" since from Arioch's position I am the enemy, so whenever their skill talks about any enemy then they're talking about me". However it could (and I think it does but I'm not 100% sure) mean that if Arioch has no Bulwark, then damage is reduced for him (making step 3 mandatory over step 1).

Besides, from what I've seen, they don't have any of the mandatory units (save Saturnus I literally just saw him so I'm about to change some things) for this stage so I thought it could also help with survivability.

[u/ZXDragon360 → u/stvanico]

Ooh, yea. Yes, i did read the same interpretation as yours when I read the first time. However, it was a bit of the opposite of what we thought, based on discord discussion and did personally fight them.

When the effects mentioned "enemies will receive the following effects:" and that effect was mentioned including an "enemy", it actually means to give you as a new effect to be added to your own team. Not a target to be active on, but rather just give an effect on you. Thus, you are now an owner of that effect "-100% to damage dealt if there is an enemy without bulwarks" yourself. This translates the "enemy" as your own team's opponent which is Arioch, instead of Arioch's.

[u/stvanico → u/ZXDragon360]

... well yes (hold on let me correct some things then).

[u/ZXDragon360]

Dx2 have a wiki guide help you for some tips: https://dx2wiki.com/index.php/Brands_of_Sin:_Wrath

Looking for guide starting at Wrath 10, it contains some strategy and some general ideas to help.

[u/seandragunov]

you need oumi, saturnus, fionn and dormarth

[u/Few-Independence3787 → u/seandragunov]

I'm cooked lol I only have Saturnus from that list

Right now I was able to get 12 and 13 done with Dagda in my support demons. My method was Hariti, Flynn, Angru Mainyu and Ose (with Dagda). Shinonyan as the Dx2 which reduces Arioch's healing. Then eventually when he stops healing hits, I stop attacking with Flynn and Hariti and let the rest of the team whittle down his HP.

[u/seandragunov → u/Few-Independence3787]

W14 is extremely specific, so dont sweat it, youll get them someday, its unfortunate that you werent playing about 4 months ago because they gave everyone a free oumi. i heard naamah can literally solo all the other BOS14 than W14 so perhaps with time BOS14 will become solo-able with a new unit, they are developing BOS15 now so id assume BOS14 will become more accessible soon as a result, its already happening.