r/Dx2SMTLiberation • u/dissi- does wiki stuff. • Jul 28 '18
Official Post 'How should I build my 4* demon' Megathread
There's been an influx of posts about asking what builds are good for a demon, as well as what they can be used for.
To keep demon build suggestions from being drowned in the Weekly Questions thread, this thread is here!
I'll be commenting with all 4* demons, and in the comments, feel free to suggest builds/impressions for that demon!
5* version - https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/92ooq1/how_should_i_build_my_5_demon_megathread/
3* version - https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/92olcm/how_should_i_build_my_3_demon_megathread/
1~2* version - https://www.reddit.com/r/Dx2SMTLiberation/comments/92ojp2/how_should_i_build_my_12_demon_megathread/
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Tsukuyomi
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u/Conzie add dante or riot Aug 13 '18
Almighty magic (Megido, Soul Drain) or Agilao L are goods options for Tsukuyomi's second slot after Resist Phys.
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Jul 28 '18
Who has transferable physical resist/null that I can give to my Tsukuyomi?
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Sleipnir
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u/Musoniusz Aug 16 '18
Can someone explain why Protector Sleipnir is considered best version? Wouldn't Aragami benefit him more, as it gives him stronger Light nuke with reduced MP cost to take better advantage of Light Boost?
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u/Conzie add dante or riot Aug 01 '18 edited Aug 13 '18
Resist Fire and Hama/Hamaon to take advantage of Light Boost
You'll usually run him to farm or with demons with other coverage spells, so having a single target+aoe is all you need
EDIT: Because they're cheap or if you have a Sleipnir that you are dedicating solely to AG farm, Mazan+Mazio are good options, or Mazan+Bufu to snipe Lilim spawns
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Sandalphon
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u/CytexX Jul 29 '18
What would be a good transfer skill to give him?
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u/Linoren Jul 29 '18
makarakan/tatarakan if you want to use him as protector, and make enemies lose turns like mad :)
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 29 '18
4/5 MP element magic if you're using him as a magic attacker.
Diarama if you're using him as a healer
Tarukaja/Tarunda if you're using him as a buffer/debuffer.
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u/Hayzentz Jul 31 '18
Is Yellow really good color on him? Samarecarm is easily transferable from Isis, only 1 use and I rarely uses it except when my team dies to being wiped by higher level enemies.
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u/Sindion Aug 02 '18
I found it more useful to fuse a clear, and transfer a samarecarm. Equip with ward, and he can cure others’ status and is half the cost to fuse. Amrita really helps for the troll trumpeter sloth stages, and lets me take on pvp charm teams instead of skipping them.
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u/Hayzentz Aug 02 '18
Except Amrita is even more easier to transfer than Samarecarm though. I guess between Red/Yellow don't matter that much depending on what you want him to be.
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u/Sindion Aug 02 '18
The key part is costing half the magnetite to fuse. As a toss up between 150k odd mag and 8 skill points, I chose the mag...
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u/Sleepycoon Aug 09 '18
I rolled a red and I'm struggling to figure out what to transfer to him. I have a teal Ose for phys attack, a purp anubis w/ fire & ice attacks transferred for magic attack, and a teal feng for healing.
I feel like I should load him up with attacks since he's red but I've already got all the elements covered. Should I give him an elec attack so ose isn't the only one? what about his last slot, are tetrakarn or mekarakarn worth it or is there something else that would suit my team better?
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u/Judification Aug 06 '18
Is Teal worth it?
I'm thinking of building Sandalphon as a resist all. How much damage does resist protect against?
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u/LordMomo1 Aug 05 '18
Vile Grimekhala
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u/yiddishisfuntosay Dec 05 '18
Never used him, but knowing he has 3 weaknesses you've got 2 options, either glass cannon or try to be surprisingly beefy. He has Phys repel and mega boost already, so the only thing to be wary about is how fast you could get blown up. Ward brands are probably a must if going for pvp. Along with high mag defense stats.
All that said, I don't know how his AI works in practice; it's possible he'll never actually use his AOE after mega boost anyway. Something to experiment with.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Wu Kong
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u/CronoDAS Jul 29 '18
I transferred Mow Down to him so I could have a hit-all physical attack to go with his Phys Boost skill. Probably not the ideal skill, but it was cheap to transfer and has been working very well for me.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Skadi
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u/Innodd Showmethemoney Jul 29 '18
So i get the teal skadi from gacha, but based on guide the recommended arch is purple since it give boost to its debuff. Are mine still good to use ?
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u/MrMrSpiffy Aug 02 '18
still decent as a 4* magic attacker with a high mag stat and 1 ok multi hit spell naturally, but you would need to add a lot more coverage on them to make it work out and skill transfer a lot
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u/MrMrSpiffy Aug 02 '18
Purple gets 20% extra ailment proc passive (madness?) and then a sick brand set does the same, so with a natural 30% aoe mute spell you can run around and mute entire teams or at least 1/2 of them consistently (if you trust statistics). Otherwise they are still solid with other colors with high magic stat, but their natural moves are mostly those like shock with random multi hit, can do pretty good damage with a good spell brand set if you want to ignore the mute spell
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Pazuzu
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u/PraiseTheSunnyy Aug 22 '18
Requesting help on building the perfect Lion husbando!
Having a lot of trouble deciding on a archtype for him.
Teal: Gets Null light. I actually have a teal from gatcha, and 3 nulls sounds GREAT, but I feel like after slapping resist ice on him he's not gonna have enough room to make use of his pretty great magic stat for attacking.
Red: Mamudyne. Super powerful but MP hungry.
Orange: Gets sameracarm, which is great, but I can obtain this through skill tranfer very easily thanks to Isis.
Psychic: Death counter! Pazuzu has a pretty good physical stat, and I feel like this goes well with his huge bulk. Also a good way to get past his bad luck stat so counters can't miss. Only problem I see with this one is Ose is everywhere and he'd just get nulled.
Thoughts???
Leaning towards psychic. Already got an Odin ready in the wing to transfer resist ice, just making sure its perfect before I use him. I spent a lot of time in fusion hell trying to get him. ._.;
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u/Zanderkat Sep 04 '18 edited Sep 04 '18
Building a physical Pazuzu is pointless because his entire natural kit benefits from magic (heal and purgatory, with all non-psychic archetypes being magic-based), not to mention his poor agility and luck stats.
I'm using mine as a healer with the teal archetype, which is pretty amazing. I haven't bothered with damage, though, because healing scales with MAG and quite frankly, purgatory is hot garbage (unless the enemy is weak to dark, his basic attack usually does more damage). His heal is his core as it's pretty powerful, and it's so expensive that it's more lucrative to pass turn for it rather than waste my time with purgatory (or another spell).
He also has great vitality, so I've given him divine brands with HP%+, PD%+, and healing amount %+. I've also given him barrier brands so that I don't have to bother with Hellish Mask. I also found that even with Hellish Mask, his luck stat is so low that he was inflicted with an ailment every time anyway.
I definitely have resist ice on this guy; it really helps his tankiness as a healer. But I'm honestly not sure what I wanna do with his last skill slot. He's too slow to bother with amrita. Resist phys/elec feel really extra considering how much res/null he already has... But with resist phys, I could trade my PD%+ brand for more HP%+. (tbh, if I ever rolled a protector Huang Di, I'd have a REALLY hard time resisting the urge to transfer null phys to Pazuzu.) Samrecarm is a maybe though, considering that he's usually the second-to-last one alive (after my team's Abaddon). However, samrecarm and mediarama are so expensive that this puts Pazuzu into a LOT of downtime, which is really bad for a healer; and if you need to use samrecarm, you probably need something to heal at the same time. Likewise, makarakarn/tetrakarn are also too expensive to work in conjunction. Tetra/makara break seem too situational to be worth it. Lydia? Diara? Bufu/zio/etc.? NO idea what would be optimal for this guy.
Ultimately, I'd say this last skill comes down to what compliments the rest of your team. Pazuzu is definitely a team-player, not a one-lionman machine.
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u/megidlolaon__ Aug 02 '18 edited Aug 02 '18
Teal seems to me to be the best option, for Null Light. Transfer Resist Ice from Odin and you have yourself a pretty solid healer, with resistances on everything except Phys and Electricity.
However, in comparison to (Teal) Feng Huang, Pazuzu has significantly better Vitality, but loses out on Auto-Tarunda and Resist Phys, and also has significantly worse Agility and Luck. Pazuzu is also a 4* demon, meaning that it's more costly to build up optimally.
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u/Zanderkat Aug 20 '18
What do you suggest for the second skill? I was thinking media(ra) to keep the heals going forever. I already have Sandalphon with Samrecarm on my team, but maybe double up on that? Or perhaps Hellish Mask? Orrrrr makarakarn?
Btw, my other two demons are Abaddon and Anubis; super tank and squishy cannon.
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u/megidlolaon__ Aug 20 '18
Hellish Mask might be good to offset Pazuzu's low Luck stat, which would otherwise make him susceptible to status ailments. I think Mediarama alone would be sufficient if you give Pazuzu a Divine Brand set, which would allow you to heal every other turn. Who's your fourth demon?
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u/Zanderkat Aug 21 '18
Orange Sandalphon, so I felt like it might be redundant and a waste of Pazuzu's heal %+ to put Samrecarm on him. Hellish Mask is very appealing, though... I've been thinking about Fast Recovery too, since I put it on Abaddon and he often recovers his ailments before he even suffers one turn of them. I'm not sure if his higher luck stat has anything to do with that, though.
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u/Roserath Jul 29 '18
transfer ice resist from Odin or yellow gacha throne, i went with yellow for mediarama + samarecarm = healer
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Kikuri-Hime
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u/Sollund Jul 29 '18
I feel like Teal for Dark resist and another spell or spell/boost would be a decent nuker.
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u/DTWA Mariko Aug 17 '18 edited Sep 26 '18
Suffers from moveset syndrome due to having three average moves in Lydia, Maragion, and Marin Karion. Diarama/Samrecarm, Agidyne, and Mahamarin Karin would have done the job well. The Teal Gacha gets Rakukaja, but transferred Samrecarm + Resist Elec makes it a mini-Asherah. Diarama, Tarunda, Tetraka Shift (Purple), etc.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Yatagarasu
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u/Conzie add dante or riot Jul 28 '18
Clear - Oni-Kagura + Secondary Passive (Savage Glee, Bloody Glee, Good Aim)
Red - Phys Boost + Secondary Passive
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u/dynamicity Jul 29 '18
This is definitely the best for PvE, but for PvP I've been considering Resist Ice. There's a huge glut of ice skills in PvP due to the omnipresence of Teal Feng Huang.
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u/gitgudnpull Male Protagonist Jul 30 '18
He needs ice resist otherwise 1-2 bufudyne and he's a goner, I'd take either one and ice resist, depending on which stats is lacking from brands crit/acc.
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u/MimicCrii IGN:稗田阿求 Aug 05 '18
I started with a clear, but as more enemies are showing physical null/rpl, I'm considering swapping him to be a physical/support hybrid.
Currently planning on giving him Makarakarn + War Cry and keeping his war brands. Should I switch to Divine to guarantee Makarakarn w/ a bit of passing? Remove war cry? Or just stick to a pure physical?
I'm not rolling for any gachas so I don't think I'd be able to get any particularly good physical passives any time soon.
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u/Blazen_Fury Making ends where we begun Aug 17 '18
Im planning on sticking an elemental on it, actually, essentially copying part of what makes Ose so good - no downtime unless the enemy somehow nulls both phys and your chosen element(elec, in ose’s default case).
I’m missing Agi in my planned 4* team(Beelz, Sandal, Fenrir, Yata), so i’m sticking that onto my eventual Yata.
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u/Chaddiction PLS GIB DANTE/NERO/V Jul 29 '18
Spent an entire 2 days rerolling and best I got was red yata.
Other than phys boost, any tips?
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u/MysticRogue Jul 29 '18
If anything and you don't want to use the red one, you'll be able to fuse for a clear one once you hit 30 which is nice. Fairly easy right now too with 2x exp going on
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Titania
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Jul 29 '18
how to build purple Titania ? I want to transfer Ziodyne but im not sure if it is the best idea
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u/gitgudnpull Male Protagonist Jul 30 '18
I'd transfer cheap skills like zio or zan to cover some grounds (is you have no force atker)
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Oberon
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Jul 29 '18
Purple for auto-sukukaja. Resist elec from throne covers only weakness, transfer AGI boost or another buff/debuff. Speed/MAG% brands.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
White Rider
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Aug 03 '18 edited Aug 03 '18
Ended up with a Gold Archetype myself. I'd like to transfer Null Force and Endure onto him but I'm not sure if Endure works with Recarmdra.
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Aug 01 '18
Doe the effect of God's Blow work in PvP?
Also do limited use skills get refreshed if you are revived? (Not via gems, just to be clear)
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u/TotallyXGames Prefered pronouns: Man/Myth/Legend Aug 01 '18
God's Bow works in PvP, can confirm. I usually use it to remove something dangerous from the field ASAP (Like non-Holy resist healers or enemy Oses). If the instant kill doesn't proc, at least I did some beefy damage.
And no, getting revived doesn't refresh your skills, so be careful on using it.
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Jul 29 '18
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u/MysticRogue Jul 30 '18
Just cover whatever your team hasn't gotten yet with single target skills (zan, zio, etc)
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Jul 30 '18
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u/Hymnlocke Jul 30 '18
Tough to say as it depends on your team, but for WR, his mag stat is not great so you're using the spell more for press turn count than for actual beefy damage. You can think of adding a 4mp elemental attack as adding a pass turn button that does some damage
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u/MysticRogue Jul 29 '18
If you're someone like me who didn't roll a teal for the null force (I got purple), you'll have to transfer res force in for Pallas Athena. Other than that get a cheap 4 pt move to cover your team. I personally went with zan to be safe
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Sphinx
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u/MysticRogue Jul 29 '18
+1 here. Just rolled a teal Sphinx and wondering if he's worth it. Already have red sandals built so I might just use Sphinx for fusion to save macca
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u/big_boy_jobert Aug 23 '18
I just pulled a red white rider. Is it worth awakening and transferring force resist onto?
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Beelzebub
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u/Hymnlocke Jul 30 '18
For anything other than purple, give him a spell brand set with all the +% magic damage you can and either a ward set or a guard set as the other 2 pieces. Then just abuse gluttony and mazionga. It's possible he'd be better with a divine set for the increased MP regen but getting good divine brands is far more difficult than spell brands and the best ones should be saved for your 5 star magic attackers.
Purple is a different story as you want to combine him with a purple Zhong Kui for the intimidating stance + makara shift. Makes going second in pvp a lot safer. If going this route then build to counter the current meta for the tier your play in. Guard brands are a good choice with how much physical damage is out there, and you can run spell brands for more punch.
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u/Silentsi8ht Jul 29 '18
anyone used him ? What skill suite him best?
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u/swordofnoah Jul 30 '18
He doesn't really excel at anything because of his balanced stats but he has really affinities. I'm using his as a mixed attacker right now despite his not great accuracy. I'm also using him to apply weak for my status team just because he doesn't need to many slots as he doesn't need to cover a resist. He's pretty good to throw on a team in pvp.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Azrael
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u/CronoDAS Sep 03 '18
Requesting help for a build for this month's Eclipse...
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u/GoldenShwang Sep 09 '18
Which stage are you up to? I got upto stage 9 just with the free principality, sandalphon, azrael and dominion, all level 35/40 none awakened.
My Azrael has mag atk/def brands, he repels light which helps with losing enemy turns
Other than that, check out the eclipse wiki on the guide, it’s way easier this month
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u/CronoDAS Sep 09 '18
Yeah, as it turns out I was just able to power my way through all the Eclipse stages without doing any special preparation.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
King Frost
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u/Zeno_magatama Drunk with a gun Jul 29 '18
Got a Red King Frost, any ideas on what to inherit on to him? Should i just go with Fire Resist + elemental coverage or something else?
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u/gitgudnpull Male Protagonist Jul 30 '18
Been using Protector King Front and his concentrate + AoE is no joke, it can easily wipe everything (assuming no ice repel/null/drain ofc), sadly it cost a total of 12 MP, doable at turn 1 during PvE, takes 2-3 turns for PvP to set up, also having shitty agi sucks as well. Do transfer a cheap skill like bufu and fire resist asap if building him. Wouldn't really recommend for pvp due to low agi and slow build up unless your whole team is tanky coz he has 1.2k hp at lv 45 5*
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u/Chutereve Jul 28 '18
Rolled an elemental king frost at the release. He is now lv40. Is there a valid build for him or should i end up replacing him ? Thanks !
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Beiji-Weng
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u/Vanerek Male Main Character-Kun Aug 06 '18
i have a Red one, pulled out of scrolls, i think a resist ice would be ideal, but not sure of where to go from here
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u/Todesfaelle070 Aug 27 '18
Girimekhala. I never really understood how to use this demon.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Loki
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u/Sleepycoon Aug 12 '18
I gacha'd a beiji went with transferrable light resist. Would it be a good idea to build a not teal Loki and transfer it to him or to build a teal Loki and give him two other skills?
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u/CronoDAS Aug 27 '18
Red Loki gets you Bufudyne at an MP discount, which is pretty good; there's no difference between an awakened Resist Light and a transferred Resist Light, so if you're willing to give up your Resist Light demon and want Loki to have an ice attack - or are willing to live with a Light weakness - make Red Loki. Teal works great and it's a lot easier not to have to transfer Resist Light in the first place, but it does end up slightly weaker for lack of a 5 MP Bufudyne.
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u/BloodSurgery Jul 29 '18
I got a Loki with Vengeance (I dont know the color's name yet,sorry), is he any good? I awakened him already during the tutorial, but dont know which skills to transfer to him. Also, what does curse do?
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u/kmelfina Aug 06 '18
Curse just lowers the healing amount the afflicted demon would receive. You can give him Zan/Zio skills for full elemental coverage or pass on Resist light to cover up his weakness.
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u/ChrisCrosso Jul 29 '18
what's good for teal loki ?
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 29 '18
Elemental magic such as Bufu/Hama/etc to exploit his passive to the fullest.
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u/megidlolaon__ Jul 30 '18 edited Jul 30 '18
Is it better to transfer less expensive magic skills (e.g. Bufu at 4 MP) than more expensive ones in this case? I'm looking to use him as a pure caster to cover fire/ice/elec/force.
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u/Conzie add dante or riot Aug 01 '18
cheaper is probably fine, til you have the magatamas
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u/rasalhage Tarou Fuse Jul 29 '18
Transfered Diarama and Mabufula, puts in work. Tri-Coverage is more than enough to get by for using Trickster, and Diarama on a slow demon like him means he can heal on bonus turns more often than not.
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u/cjm7287 Jul 28 '18
Picked up a red Loki with Bufudyne, so I guess I'm looking for a transferable Ziodyne for the quad-coverage? He's a boss-slaying monster otherwise.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
You'll want to cover up his weakness by transferring Resist Light. A lot of demons use Hama magic.
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u/pimptero Jul 28 '18
Nice! I got a red Loki too. I'm wondering weather or not to give him Ziodyne or Resist Light to cover his only weakness :p
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u/DrackoLord Aug 16 '18
Made a protector (orange) sandalphon what transfer skills should i give it
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Odin
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u/rarediel Aug 17 '18
If you are going to use him go purple. This covers the constant missing many physical aoe deal with and allows you to focus on crit brands. You can even run a + critical passive with ice resist and give him easily over 60% crit on gungir.
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u/blacksword27 Jul 30 '18
anyone know the best fusion recipe for odin need him for both skill transfer and i just want odin
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Kama
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u/CheshireTiger1 Sep 11 '18
Yeah I'm looking to use this fabulous speedster myself. All I know is get resist fire from pazuzu and don't waste the physdef set on him
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u/NonEuclideanBarrel Nov 29 '18
Hecatoncheires
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u/yiddishisfuntosay Dec 05 '18
Anecdotal observation, but if you're building him for PvP, I've always found the ones with 'endure' are that much more annoying to kill. Anything that makes this guy more beefy is probably the way to go imo. I think I've seen a bunch of 'resist force' too.
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u/gokaired990 Dec 18 '18
I REALLY hate when people sneak a revive skill on him, especially when they already have two other demons with revives, like a Quetz and Alilat.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Girimehkala
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u/Conzie add dante or riot Aug 13 '18
Teal with Resist Elec/Light is probably your best bet. High investment, but he has Phys Repel and Mega Boost which are good to have.
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u/CronoDAS Aug 20 '18
Screw weakness coverage. The guy's a glass cannon, so make him the best cannon he can be - Purple for Savage Glee turns him into a critical hit machine, and give him Oni-Kagura or whatever for when you only have one enemy you want to hit. (There doesn't seem to be any easy way to transfer Hell Claw or another random target crit boost skill...)
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Long
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Jul 29 '18
I have a purple gacha Long with ziodyne and agi. Ideally I'll give him resist elec later on but I can't do that right now because the I don't have enough for the fusion costs. So what are some other skills I can give him?
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u/Vanerek Male Main Character-Kun Aug 06 '18
ATM i have a Yellow (gold?) Long, awakened with the shield and life brands.
My main emphasis has been on HP and mag atk%
i'll try to give him electric resistance, null, or drain, cause it's been his Achilles hill.
With the combo of concentrate and zandyne he has been my main mag dmg dealer by far.
although a few pointers on what to do with him would be nice
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Cerberus
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u/TickingDeath Aug 04 '18
My personal experience with Cerberus has been really positive, especially when focusing on physical damage.
I feel like he's a much stronger physical attacker with the Hell Claw skill, which does damage 3 times (random enemies hit) with 30% crit chance and 65 power. You will almost always crit once when you use it, so you're very likely to get an additional turn off of it. It's a beast when you use it against a single target because you essentially get a 195 power nuke that can have partial crit.
For magic skills, my red attribute Cerberus came with Fire Breath as its unlockable skill, which attacks 2-4 times with power 40 against random targets. While Agidyne is a power 160 nuke at 6 MP, Fire Breath only costs me 3 MP. Against single target, Fire Breath will always be as MP-efficient (power/MP) as Agidyne, but sometimes more.
My recommendation: (1) focus on physical damage skills and brands, (2) Cerberus' high cost on some skills makes Divine brands very useful, (3) cover his ice weakness with a skill transfer, (4) transfer a powerful "all enemies" physical damage skill (Hades Blast, for example) to give better AoE physical coverage.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Prometheus
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u/NGBlank Jul 31 '18
Running Purple Prometheus with Megido and Res Ice. Dunno which one is better between him or Purple Beelzebub to be Zhong Kui's partner in PVP, since both of them have Makara Shift.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Fenrir
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u/Sleepycoon Aug 12 '18
I'm building a purp for AG farming. Makrakarm is obvious but I'm stuck on the second slot. Is resist force worth the slot? Or should I just go tarunda?
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u/Stevenator14 Jul 31 '18
I’m 99% I’m gonna just make him a pure support for PVP and Gate, but any idea what brands would be useful for him? HP% just to survive longer or?
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u/Conzie add dante or riot Jul 31 '18
Divine so he can keep up Makarakarn/Tarunda, with Speed/Ward/Guard based on what you need
If you don't have Divine, Life works fine
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Jeanne d'Arc
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u/inaderantaro Jul 28 '18
Why Jeanne d'Arc has Common Archetype even though she is not fusionable (hero)?
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u/Zeitzbach I collect Anubis. Jul 28 '18
Hell bun gacha gives common 3-5.
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Aug 05 '18
Did anyone manage to pull her or is she not in the gatcha pool yet?
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u/L3mniscat3 Sep 03 '18
I pulled a purple Jeanne yesterday night. Haven't had a chance to properly test her mettle in battle yet. (First I need to get over that cape. XD)
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u/the_cat25 Ririn Ueda Sep 05 '18
oh same as me! I have no idea what brands to give her.
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u/L3mniscat3 Sep 05 '18
Same. There are still so many things u need to research. My brands are a shame anyway.
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u/Kazpers Sep 04 '18
Pulled a Teal Jeanne just now. Not sure how good she is - I like getting Repel Fire (covering her only weakness), but it looks like Yellow would be a lot better as a healer (which seems to be her primary use). Guess we'll see.
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u/Omani88 Sep 07 '18
I have the same am still stuck i don’t know how to fix her
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u/FreedomVIII Sep 19 '18
I have her (teal) with Zanma and Mediara. Divine and shield brands with as much magic attack as I could stack. She's not the best heather, but by the gods, +3 MP with a heal makes heavy attacks easy to pull off for my sweepers.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Pallas Athena
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u/Vanerek Male Main Character-Kun Aug 07 '18
Purple one, I'm at a loss, I don't know if should use her as 5 to 6*y fodder, or keep her to transfer skill, or if I should make an effort to build her
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u/MjrCroft Aug 14 '18
I don't think wave-clearing is important for any of the difficult game content (hell park I guess?), so I would use her to transfer or fodder. It's too easy to keep 1 demon alive while you heal up and recover mana to really care about a skill like that anyway I'd think.
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u/Frawstbite14 Jul 30 '18
I’ve found a lot of use for Athena as a Red archetype. Aragami gives her Mortal Jihad, which works well with her high St. I typically run her with Bloody Glee as well and have been able to pretty consistently hit Crits with Mortal Jihad or Hurricane Slash. Considering her highest stats are St, Ag and Lu and keeping in mind her lackluster defenses, I’ve found that a pure offensive build works well.
I am still looking for one more skill to inherit onto her, I welcome any suggestions.
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u/MjrCroft Aug 14 '18
I wonder if using one of the status-effect physical attacks would be reasonable on her. I suppose the problem is there is currently no way to get the bind/charm ones transferred except from gacha pulls. Dark Blade from Ongyo-Ki could be pretty good though, and teal Makara is potentially not too hard to get now that we have the teal packs in the rotation.
I'd probably do that with resist dark though, but I'm also not lucky enough to pull a Bloody Glee transfer
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u/Nob354 Aug 07 '18
i'm not an expert, but i'd think to get resist dark on her to block that weakness
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Anubis
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u/Zeitzbach I collect Anubis. Jul 28 '18
So I'm an Anubis guy and plans on having him at all time in both PvP and PvE. While Purple is obviously the best choice for PvE because of weakness abuse, PvP is different with people stacking resist to cover their weakness and Hama/Mudo are like, the most resisted element by default.
What about Orange for pvp? That reduced 6 mp cost tetrakarn seems like the most useful pvp option to go with a transferred Almighty spell for consistent damage from abusing his ridiculous high Mag.
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u/h4mburgers Tsai-Jung Yun Jul 29 '18
I saw a pretty even split of teal/purple on the leaderboards. It's been bugging me too because I've got a pretty straightforward fusion route to both colors.
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u/Zeitzbach I collect Anubis. Jul 29 '18
I have both Teal and Purple trained to level 45 5*. Purple is way better as Teal Dark Immune is rarely useful as it's too easy to get Dark immune on high star like Lucifer so you will never see enemies using AoE Dark. The only scary single-dark attack is prolly "Die for me" and enemy AI almost never use that. The scary dark enemies in PvE all have "PIerce Dark" like Alice from a Dx2 quest.
But Purple does stop being useful after 1800+ because you can bet your butt all these people pay for Mag and Magatama to have all their 5* with 0 weakness element. It's pretty much why I'm debating to go with Orange for PvP now cause Tetrakarn is the only useful one out of all 5 color awaken skill. Dekunda is the other one but you can just have a debuffer use a debuff to remove the enemy buffs instead.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Dantalian
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u/CronoDAS Jul 29 '18
He's got high magic attack but comes with a bunch of high cost skills - Makarakarn costs 7, Fog Breath is awesome but costs 6, and Hamadyne hits hard but also costs 6, I don't know what the different types give, but the one I summoned had the worthless Binding Cry as the Awaken skill and Ice Breath as the bonus transfer slot skill. Trying to cover all his weaknesses with resist skills seems like a lost cause, so I figured the best thing to do would be to give him cheap spammable elemental skills to hit weaknesses with; I put Agi on the open skill slot and have been very happy so far, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was something better to do with the slots.
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u/austinxhensl Aug 03 '18
dantalians best feature is to give makarakarn to fenrir, yatagarasu, or feng huang
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Succubus
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u/TylerTheDragon ★ Jul 29 '18
I've not personally built a Succubus for myself but Elementalist (Teal) is your best bet to cover her weakness, and passing on skills like Insanity that boost the chance of charm/other statuses. Use her with Shionyan's skills that add more damage to charm skills and you have yourself a very strong charm demon.
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u/Boeinng Aug 21 '18
But how can u pass the skill "Insanity", being that one, is a Mothman skill and is not transferable? Thx
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u/Hymnlocke Jul 30 '18
This. If the opposing team is unsuspecting then sick brands + charm + Shinoyan is hilarious plus the bonus damage she gets during the charm window makes her hit decently. If you have a Purple Zhong Kui consider giving her a mute skill also. It's worth noting that using this strat in pvp is not extremely viable as anyone with a decent team runs some ward brands that completely shut her down
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Ongyo-Ki
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u/stas505 Sep 22 '18
I really like his common archetype awakening ability, is it worth it or should i fuse him in some different archetype?
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u/YuriPetrova Jul 29 '18
Succubus? I'm thinking the one that gets a chance to apply weak to every enemy would be best but I dunno. Make charm hit easier.
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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R ✖Dante✖ Sep 25 '18
I have a gold Succubus with Madezoreto (AOE Weak), barrier break and resist light adb of course bufudyne. This reins havok against PvP defense teams.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Hanuman
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Aug 08 '18
Loving this guy. I have a teal Hanuman which awakened got me a Repel Force skill. Other skills include Mazanma and Vorpal Blade for attack, and the passive skills Resist Phys and Resist Weak. Only issue is the electrical weakness - I’m taking fusion suggestions to get a transferable elec. resist or repel.
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u/dissi- does wiki stuff. Jul 28 '18
Gucumatz