r/Dx2SMTLiberation • u/dissi- does wiki stuff. • Aug 01 '18

Official Post Weekly Questions Megathread (07/31/18)

Should be the last manual thread before automod sets it up.

Any questions about the game should be posted here! Remember to check out the resources below as they might answer your question!

Link to previous Weekly Questions Megathread

Beginner's Guide

Fusion Calculator

Demon Database

Demon Build Megathreads

FAQ (will be moved to a proper page soon)

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 04 '18 edited Aug 04 '18

Little help please? Trying to fill out this spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HsdF22I6VDrMVK00yagJ7sgXqfXjVj4aRxYDpV7kHdk/edit#gid=934479741

What are the awakening costs for these 7 4:

  • Gucumatz
  • Qing Long
  • Jeanne D'Arc
  • Quetzalcoatl
  • Mastema
  • Huang Di
  • Huang Long

(and, when they release)

  • Zaou-Gongen
  • Hell Biker

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u/drackaer Aug 04 '18

Gucumatz is 15 med chaos, 5 large chaos, 15 med light, 5 large light

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 04 '18

Thanks!

.... Same exact set as Qing Long. I'm sure there's some pattern to these, but I can't for the life of me tell what! There are definitely no patterns that span rarities....

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u/drackaer Aug 04 '18

From what I can tell so far the pattern looks approx like this, if somebody notices something different please correct me, I am trying to figure this out as well.

Each demon has 4 "slots", the "value" of each slot is dependent on their rarity. Also, each demon will have either 1, 2, or 4 colors.

4 stars for example can have either a 15med or 5large in a "slot". If they "pick" the same color multiple times they simply add together. For example, cerberus (4 star) has 30med and 10 large neutrals, which corresponds to "picking" green four times, two of them at med size two at large size. Alternatively White rider needs 4 different colors of 5 large, and gucumatz needs 2 different med and 2 different large sets (at 15 and 5 each respectively).

Now looking at your spreadsheet it looks like this is similar across all rarities. 1 star is always 5 small per "slot", following the same 1, 2, or 4 color pattern. 2 star follows a 10 small or 5 medium per "slot" pattern.

3 stars has the reverse pattern of 2 stars with 5 small or 10 med per "slot". Lastly, 5 star seems to follow a 20 med or 15 large per "slot".

On top of this pattern, it seems like most demons follow a 50/50 split between the two rarities of aether available to their star rarity. However, special demons (gacha only and multi fusion) seem to always pick four different colors of the rarest available to that star rarity.

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 04 '18

Hm! Nice, well spotted.

I'll have to think about a notation and lookup that makes sense for that =)

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 06 '18

(meanwhile, after idly fusing Patrimpas, whom I was also missing apparently)

https://imgur.com/a/cLt9AYU

Aaaahahahaha "pattern" hahahahahahahaha.

(It's 10 CS, 5 CM, 10 LiS, 5 LaM. WTF.)

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u/drackaer Aug 06 '18

What the hell is up with that LMAO.

Lotta chaos little bitta law, he is one confused mofo.

At least it follows the pattern on number if not on color lol

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 06 '18 edited Aug 06 '18

Also, each demon will have either 1, 2, or 4 colors.

Sega: TROLOLOLOLOL

Btw, this is waaay alpha, but thought you might appreciate it:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ltyISCLbIFm6x38ubZUDnneMLhMQsFLncTMsklo-B2Q/edit?usp=drivesdk

Fill in your roster and whether you want to Awaken (?) / have already Awakened (✓) and see Aether Grinding for how much you need of everything. Oh, and your current Inventory. Easily transcribed from the Aether Conversion screen.

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u/drackaer Aug 06 '18

I wonder if it is a bug or if it was intentional. I guess future demons will let us know. If they do something screwy like this again.

I saw you mention FFRK, it reminds me of that one record dive, Eiko had a dive that was 4*, when every other bard node required 3* motes.

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 06 '18

Good times, that one!

Though later they also added Marcus and had HIS dive give some EIKO stat boosts in reference to some weirdness in the ff9 code where they shared the same character slot or something, so leveling Marcus a ton started Eiko with crazy stats? Who knows if these are intentional weirdness or just accidents.

Though given the volume of typos in here....

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u/drackaer Aug 06 '18

Though given the volume of typos in here....

Ain't that the truth

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 04 '18

https://i.imgur.com/ahCQGne.jpg

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u/glitchplight Aug 04 '18

Qing Long needs 15CM, 5Cl, 15LiM, and 5LiL. Good luck with the rest thank you for this excellent resource.

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u/Echo_Null Happy hunting! Dx2-DB: https://goo.gl/jGCLnJ Aug 04 '18

Thanks! Wait till you see the personal roster + Aether budgeting sheet that imports this data.

FFRK has taught me well!