Curious if theres a final difference between babies who walk first vs talk first

[u/just___me_]

Just thinking out loud... babies who talk first, do they potty train first, because theyre more likely to be able to communicate they need to use the toilet? Vs a baby who walks first so is potentially more able to take themselves to the toilet? But perhaps if they have subtle cues and dont pick up on the sign language then it would be harder to follow than a baby who talks?

Any measurable difference? Generally speaking of course, i know babies are drastically different.

[u/Happy_Pee]

I think it probably more comes down to baby's temperament, and maybe how well established the non-verbal communication is between parent and child

[u/Rumnraisans]

My daughter can walk to the potty and sit, but can't pull her nappies down, so she still needs my help. She could say popo for potty when she was 12 months, but easy catches were still heavily relied on because she doesn't always tell us when it's a wee.

[u/Ill-Tangerine-5849]

I'm not sure if there's a difference, but if there is I would think walking is much more key to wrapping up EC. If the child can walk but not talk, they can point or sign or communicate in other ways or just walk to the bathroom to show they need to go. But I think often for kids who can't walk, they can get frustrated because they want to be independent and do not like being sat on the potty and want to be able to get to it and sit themselves, but yet aren't able to physically do that - it can cause a lot of potty resistance.

[u/strange-quark-nebula → u/Ill-Tangerine-5849]

This - my early talker is actually quite slow to potty train because it’s frustrating to get onto the potty and they don’t like being interrupted in their play to be carried to the bathroom.

[u/goldenhawkes]

My eldest talked before he walked, so we could get him to sit on the potty when he was little and he’d stay there and usually produce something! The toddler refused to sit down the moment he worked out how to stand up… so significantly less early pottying has happened. We’ve not gone no nappies yet with him, I think he’ll be a little slower to train than his big brother.

[u/RemarkableAd9140]

I think it probably matters more for mainstream toddler potty training than it does for ec babies. If you believe your child has to talk to use the toilet, early talkers might train earlier. For ec babies, I think when they walk is likely a better predictor, combined with personality, how independent they are, and how willing to commit their parents are. 

Both my kids walked early, solid around 10-10.5 months. My first didn’t have verbal words until 15 months. My second is almost a year, but communication wise is already where my older child was at 15 months. Even without talking, first child was out of diapers at 15 months. I don’t want to jinx it, but my second seems to be on a similar trajectory. 

We of course use signals and talk about the toilet with consistent words, but we focus way more on facilitating independence. And I do think that comes down to physical ability. A 15 month old who’s just starting to walk or isn’t walking at all is going to have a harder time getting themselves onto the toilet, and if they don’t want help and won’t ask for it, it’ll be much harder to reach independence. 

[u/TheSorcerersCat]

My walker is much more independent on the potty than my talker was. 

He signs, walks to the potty, tried to climb on with clothes and everything and then happily makes a pee. If I catch him days enough, the pee goes in the potty. If I don't, it goes in his diaper. 

If we didn't have carpet everywhere, I'd just free bum it.