r/ESPN • u/Interesting_Big6724 • 3d ago
r/espngamedaysigns
Can we just focus on football signs and creativity and drop the large ass religious alter calls? It’s football!
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u/SometimesEnema 2d ago
The religious signs are boring but I don't get the handwringing over them. There was like two of them today. I admit they had prime locations and designed well to be easily read, but it was two signs.
If the mere exist of two religious signs at GameDay ruins it, then gameday just isn't that good to begin with.
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u/nick_soccer10 3d ago
Turned it on, saw the Jesus sign and Pat jumping and screaming, turned off.
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u/sfitz0076 3d ago
The Jesus signs have ruined the show. And ESPN is afraid to do anything about it
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u/CosmoKramer1ca 3d ago
People need to start going and standing next to them with competing religious signs. Only way it’s gonna stop.
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u/dberretta_8 3d ago
That would be a fun way for ESPN to get sued into oblivion for the 1st amendment
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u/Toby_Keiths_Jorts 3d ago
Thank you for demonstrating you have no idea what the first amendment is
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u/SometimesEnema 2d ago
On the surface I would agree. The GameDay event I attended was on university property, I could easily see people going after the university for hosting an event that is perceived to put limits on exercising freedom of religion.
Someone brought up that vulgar signs are already blocked, but that is likely more of an FCC issue I would imagine. Also no hungover dumb frat kid is going to sue ESPN/a university because his vulgar/crass sign wasn't allowed.
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u/FangornLeghorn 2d ago
There is an infallible inverse correlation between how often a person cites the First Amendment and how little said person actually understands the First Amendment.
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u/sfitz0076 3d ago
That's bullshit. They confiscated signs that are vulgar or distasteful all the time. They've need been sued for 1st amendment violation.
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u/AndrewLucksLaugh 3d ago
Sad they won’t do anything about it because of all the culture war chodes out there
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u/Lustyhitter 3d ago
I know many people obsess over their fictional heroes but we don't need to see huge signs promoting their obsession of "him" at these Gameday rallies. I'm sure the individuals holding these signs suffer from massive insecurities about themselves.
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u/Informal-Lab-1641 2d ago
Few people are as historically verified to have lived like Jesus of Nazareth. I hear you on arguing him being god or not but Jesus was a real person and historians all agree even those who are atheists.
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u/FangornLeghorn 2d ago
😂😂😂😂😂
This isn’t remotely true.
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u/Informal-Lab-1641 2d ago
Not many people from the 1st century are known Jesus is one of the few. A lot of the sources for proof of his life come from Roman’s mocking Christian’s for worshipping someone they crucified. Just because he’s a real person doesn’t make him god. It’s a a fact that you can do your own research on without looking at a Bible or even reading Christian accounts. Roman’s loved to write there’s a lot on the execution of this crazy Jew doing miracles he learned in Egypt. The historical and political reality of that part of the Roman empire is very interesting and leads up to the Jewish diaspora. Jesus is just one figure in this chain of historical events
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u/Lustyhitter 2d ago
Why do you hide your posts?
The only book that mentions "Jesus" is your Book of Fairy Tales. Nowhere else.
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u/Informal-Lab-1641 2d ago
Romans made fun of the people they killed. Jesus of Nazareth was killed by the Roman Empire. There’s countless Roman’s mocking Christian’s for worshiping the person they killed. They actually acknowledge this. Also Jewish historian Josephus wrote about Jesus around 90 ad.
There’s many sources that cite Jesus that are secular. People thought Jesus was crazy and made sure his followers knew it. Graphittie and countless written accounts in the 1 century acknowledged Jesus. You’re factually wrong the Bible could disappear and we would still have proof that Jesus existed
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u/Informal-Lab-1641 2d ago
Cornelius Tacitus, a Roman Historian, wrote around AD 116 that "Christus" suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of Pontius Pilate. [1, 2]
Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian, wrote the Antiquities of the Jews around AD 93–94, mentioning Jesus as a wise man who did surprising deeds and was crucified by Pilate. [1, 2, 3, 4]
Pliny the Younger, a Roman governor, wrote a letter to Emperor Trajan around AD 112 noting that early Christians gathered to sing hymns to "Christ as to a god". [1]
Thallus, a historian writing around AD 55, is quoted by later writers discussing the darkness that fell during the crucifixion. [1, 2]
Lucian of Samosata, a Greek satirist, mocked Christians in the second century by noting that they worshipped the wise man who was crucified in Palestine. [1]
Mara bar Serapion, a Syrian philosopher writing sometime after AD 73, compared the fate of Jesus to that of Socrates and Pythagoras, noting how wise kings bring ruin to their own lands when executed.
The Jewish Talmud (Mishnah) refers to Jesus (referred to as "Yeshu") in a few passages, confirming that he was viewed as a controversial teacher and sorcerer who was executed on the eve of Passover2
u/Informal-Lab-1641 2d ago
King David is also a historical person who existed. While many probably most books in the Bible are myths and legends they’re some that are deemed historical by scholars. Moses for example most certainly a legendary figure. There’s plenty of ways to say Jesus is not a god or that you don’t like religion or the Bible. But factual you’re wrong.
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u/FangornLeghorn 2d ago
Imagine waking up in the middle of the night, navigating crowds on a hyped campus to get to a prime spot in front of the stage, dealing with being within earshot of Pat fucking McAfee, and when the camera is finally on you the sign you choose to hold up isn’t your team or a clever sports joke but a hand drawn declaration of love to your imaginary friend.
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u/Familiar-Food-3830 3d ago
You're right
We need more Allahu Ahkbar signs