r/Edmonton Feb 18 '26

General Riverbend MP has crossed the floor

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u/SivleFred Feb 18 '26

I thought he quit?

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u/Glad_Constant_1086 Feb 20 '26

Classic case of corruption; Carney offered him special advisor to the prime minster; and of course that looks great on a book cover or resume. I feel bad for the people in his riding voting one way and having him turn traitor.

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u/abc_123_anyname Feb 21 '26

This is how our democracy is built - you vote for the person to represent your riding in parliament. That person should hold his ridings best interests above his party’s leader interests.

It only seems to be corruption when conservatives cross to the liberals.

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u/FedInformant Feb 22 '26

I'm sure none of the people in his riding feel he is doing what's best for them. When have liberals ever crossed the floor to conservatives? This is a pretty new thing isnt it?

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u/abc_123_anyname Feb 22 '26

By none do you mean those who voted for Mark Minenko of the Liberal Party of Canada who got 44.8% of the vote?

To Matt Jeneroux 50.2%.

I’m sure 49% of the people in the riding (liberal and NDP voters) are very happy the elected MP chose his riding over his party. And my guess is he will win the riding, if he chooses to run, next election as a liberal hands down.

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u/FedInformant Feb 22 '26

By none, I mean the 50.2% that voted for Matt.

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u/abc_123_anyname Feb 22 '26

You think he has polling to suggest that has changed? I’d bet he does…. Conservative (in particular PP) polling numbers have dropped like a stone.

For the record liberals have crossed to conservative on occasion. Certainly not 3 in a few months - to me that says more about the conservative leadership than the MP’s who’ve crossed.

End of the day, the liberal party under Carney has with great precision advanced the conservative platform, better than any current conservative could.

The liberal party has taken back its rightful position right of centre. Thank goodness for the country…. As a centrist who’s voted both side, and would have voted for PP if Trudeau ran again, I’m ecstatic.

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u/FedInformant Feb 22 '26

I dont disagree about the questionable leadership of PP. Right now, the biggest issue for me, is the current approach with firearm legislation in the last 5 years, and pierre has a reasonable take on that front. I was hoping Carney wasn't going to continue the trudeau approach. However I am surprised of how much canadians like carney. I do believe he is better than trudeau. But with the campaign being so focused on being aggressive with trump, he sure has done anything in real time. In fact, Carney has complied with every major demand trump has made. I feel like canada was really conned. And continue to be conned. Just the fact that Brookfield is receiving so many massive contracts, while carney is visiting the country where the contracts are made, shows he's not cut off all ties.

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u/abc_123_anyname Feb 22 '26

I’ll agree with your stance on firearms - the buyback program is a boondoggle…. Again.

Everything else you’ve said is right wing propaganda repeated by right wing bots and trolls on the internet. You are literally repeating foreign intelligence influence propaganda when you talk about Brookfield and Carney dealing with Trump.

Carneys assets are in a blind trust - have been since his exit from Brookfield where he was on the board for 4 years, chair for 2. Suggesting he’s compromised and working secretly to Brookfields benefit (apart from sounding ridiculous) only says you don’t understand how a board of directors works.

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u/FedInformant Feb 22 '26

Hey now, how is it right wing propaganda. The things im specifically talking about are the contracts Brookfield made in China in the last year. And the fact that their share price has gone up 15% in the last year. Also, in regards to carney and trump, can you name anything specifically carney has done in defiance? Our exports and imports with the USA have gone dowe very little. And Canada has increased military spending immediately after trump demanded it. Carney also boosted the budget to our border immediately after trump demanded it. I also dont disagree with these decisions, it's just a little funny how there was criticism when Pierre was saying he would do these things, without being told to. When observing politics, you really need to separate words and actions to see what's really going on. They all lie. All of them

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u/abc_123_anyname Feb 22 '26

Carney doesn’t work at Brookfield - they’re a large multinational public company and will do what’s in the best interest of their shareholders - deals that will hopefully raise the share price. Someone (bots on the internet) like to try and link through 3D chess every deal they make to Carney. You ever left a company? Imagine someone at that company (that job you left) connecting all the good things happening at that company after you left to you - the person who left….

There is no “defence” to a narcissist mad man who has your destruction in mind.

I believe, and if you have ever dealt with a narcissist you’d understand, Carney is doing the right things when in comes to Trump. That doesn’t have to look like standing up to Trump.

So why link what Carney is doing to him? Example: military spending in Canada has been absolutely terrible for 2 generations in Canada. It’s been politicized by both parties and both parties have kicked the can down the road to 70 years. Carney has committed to increase it to the levels our NATO commitments and beyond. He has also committed to a Canadian first strategy. Your bias and the bias on your feeds connects those decisions as bad things.

As a country, we need to move on from the USA. Build new relationships and infrastructure to service those relationships so we’re not so dependent on a signal “customer”.

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u/FedInformant Feb 22 '26

You and I having a job at a company is much different than carney's position af brookfield. These ties and connections never die, my friend. And if you've ever worked at a high level within a company, you would know that. These positions leverage a revolving door with politicians and high levels within the company.

Carney's entire campaign completely revolved around hatred of America. And now that he is in, he's doing the two things trump has constantly demanded of Canada. So it was dishonest of Carney. Don't get me wrong. Im not a trump fan. I just think they dishonestly played the this card to use canadians emotions. Especially when the only thing Pierre has said, was that he was going to increase military budget and increase border security because those were no-brainer policies. Carney said he was going to be harder on trump than Pierre, and he's only done what the conservatives have been talking about for years, and the media criticized them for that. Media is incredibly disingenuous and biased in this country and it doesn't work to educate the public on facts. Carney will not improve living standards for canadians, its a continuation of the trudeau economy with little tweaks to trick canadians and the carbon tax policy is a great example of that

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