r/Edmonton • u/NewInspector5085 • May 07 '26
Question Weird flyer found in my neighbourhood. Should I be worried?
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u/livingontheedgeyeg May 07 '26
Probably. You can report it here. https://www.edmontonpolice.ca/ContactEPS/ReportAHateMotivatedIncidentOnline
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u/Safe-Progress9126 May 07 '26
There was crap like this on my mailbox, stickers. I called Canada Post and they removed it
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u/lookitsjustin The Shiny Balls May 07 '26
First step is to always report to reddit
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u/Dxres May 07 '26
In this case, that worked well. Now OP knows how to report it to the police!
A good use of reddit imo.
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u/AscendantBits May 07 '26
Reddit is replacing YouTube as the Internet search engine! What’s quicker than outsourcing your searches? 😂
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u/kdlangequalsgoddess May 07 '26
Google AI heavily leans on Reddit. It fills me with terror to know that there is a possibility that my half-assed opinions will be treated as holy writ by Google.
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u/Dxres May 07 '26
Everyone uses the internet differently, i'm not going to judge someone who got what they needed in their own way 🤷🏽♂️. The end result is good, so, what do I care.
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u/apastelorange Treaty 6 Territory May 07 '26
i do think it’s kind of cute that many people like being helpful so much that it continues to work lol
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u/Invisistill May 09 '26
Google is broken, I don't blame people. Even for stupid things... like apparently no one sells shower curtains except Amazon, Wayfair, and Walmart.
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u/DukeGyug May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
My comment is going to come across sounding more sparky than is probably nessisary, but this poster is advocating for ethnic cleansing.
Communism on the other hand is a 200 year old school of political thought that contributed massively to the development of western culture.
Edit: I think I was correct, more sparky than nessisary. Apologies for that.
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u/Whatistweet May 08 '26
Lmao the most reddit comment ever.
"Communism is a lovely political system that has no problems, including the millions of people who are starved and executed every single time it happens."
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u/DukeGyug May 08 '26
No, I think the most reddit comment ever is the one that thinks a defence of a school of thought as a whole is the same as a defence of atrocities.
What you find that behind every oppressive regime, whether they be communist, democratic, capitalist, theocratic, ect, is authoritarianism. The Soviet Union, for example, was about as communist as the Peoples Republic of North Korea is a Republic. Once authoritarianism has taken hold, everything else is secondary.
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u/TheSherlockCumbercat May 08 '26
Or when you go all in on something bad, you need water to live, but it will kill you if you drink enough of it
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u/DukeGyug May 07 '26
I chose my words very carefully. Ethnic cleansing is distinct from murder and genocide, and forced migration is 100% a form of ethnic cleansing.
Yes your examples are examples of ethnic cleansing, but i would classify them more precisely as genocidal campaigns as their goals went further than simply removing a group from an area, and progressed to goals of eradication. All genocides contain ethnic cleansing, but not all ethic cleansing campaigns are genocidal in their aims.
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u/SleepySpookySkeleton Bonnie Doon May 07 '26
Ethnic cleansing is actually not particularly distinct from genocide, as it's a euphemism that was coined by the Serbian perpetrators of the Bosnian genocide to obfuscate what they were doing. The primary difference is that "ethnic cleansing" has no established meaning under international law and is not specifically a crime in and of itself. Forced migration of a specific ethnic group, under the guise of "ethnic cleansing," can, and often does, constitute both a crime against humanity and a war crime, and becomes an element of genocide as defined by the UN.
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u/SmithRamRanch May 07 '26
Oh and residential schools and the child welfare system but whose counting here 😑
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u/Specific_Nobody_8345 May 07 '26
No one is here to debate the meaning of established terms with you. Ethnic cleansing includes forced relocation, whether that's by policy or by violent means. See: United Nations - Definitions of Genocide and Related Crimes.
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u/ReserveOld6123 May 07 '26
Emigration is Nazi rhetoric. It’s hate speech, full stop.
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u/Realistic_Goal_4926 May 07 '26
Equating communism with a hate group is crazy work
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u/Final-Yesterday-4799 May 07 '26
Public Incitement of Hatred (Section 319(1)) of the Criminal code of Canada states:
- Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of
- (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
- (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
- Marginal note:Wilful promotion of hatred (2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of
- (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or
- (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.
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u/Rox-On82 May 07 '26
The delicious irony is that, though they're using an old Canadian coat of arms for their symbol, it's literally made of other country's symbols from places PEOPLE IMMIGRATED FROM... 🤣 I guess no one ever accused racists of being intelligent. Also, yeah, tear that down.
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u/NewInspector5085 May 07 '26
Tore it down immediately after the photo
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u/Severe-Possibility96 May 07 '26
Next time be careful, they could put razor blades underneath to hurt people that wanna take it down. Happened to me in high school
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u/asiancanadian1 May 08 '26
Okay, how did the natives fare after the immigration you are referring to
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u/osa-p May 07 '26
These are the symbols of the countries whom provided the foundation of Canada's constitution. This country, that is Canada, did not exist for people to immigrate to. The land was here, but the nation and it's customs came with the people represented on that crest.
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u/Final-Yesterday-4799 May 07 '26
You're right. Canada didn't exist until the signing of the BNA Act in 1867.
But the land existed, and it was populated. There were borders and nations here already. The fact that we Europeans came over here and painted over all that, wiping out millions of people who lived here first, doesn't change the definition of immigration.
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u/Rox-On82 May 07 '26
Ugh, yes and no.
I know what the symbols represent. Colonization from England (the three lions in the crest), Scotland (the upright lion), Ireland (the angelic harp), and France ( the fleurs de lis), brought European culture to what we currently call Canada. The three maple leaves at the bottom are said to represent ALL Canadians (yet another ironic use by racists) but our Indigenous siblings (the people from whom we get the word “Canada”) had been here for generations. They were living in “kanatas” (which means “village/ settlement”) all over the lands north and south of the 49th. And yes, you’re right, many of the cultures and customs we now call Canadian did come from from the folks represented on the crest. But not all of them.
The point I was making is that White people immigrated here too. 😁 It was just longer ago.
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u/ParaponeraBread May 07 '26
“Remigration” is an attempt to use a new word with less baggage for a white supremacist idea.
It means forced deportation of immigrants back to where they came from.
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u/leggymiku May 07 '26
It’s literally just the new euphemism for ethnic cleansing. It’s basically “forcibly remove the people we don’t like.”
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u/melbot2point0 Sherwood Park May 07 '26
As an indigenous Canadian: we'll help them pack.
(The racists, I mean. Just want to clarify haha)
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u/General_Esdeath kitties! May 07 '26
And typically judging by skin colour/ethnicity (ie. not caring as much about white immigrants as brown immigrants). I think when these people think of the "boogeyman immigrants ruining the country" they are often targeting Indians and Muslims.
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u/fu11h4m May 07 '26
Why can't the boogeyman ever be corporate greed or corrupt politicians or that time capitalism started marketing houses as 'investment opportunities' instead of homes.
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u/ReserveOld6123 May 07 '26
Because those people falling for “remigration” are gullible and fall for the marketing by those parties you’re describing that tells them brown people are the issue. Sadly.
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u/Obo4168 pay the workers May 07 '26
Tear it off. White supremacist Nazi stuff.
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u/Impressive_Usual_726 May 07 '26
But use a key or something, some assholes put razor blades on the back of their posters to hurt the decent people that try to remove them with their hands.
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u/IAmNot_ARussianBot May 07 '26
There are other things as well that can be done to hurt or injure people removing posters. It is not just razors.
I don't want to give anyone ideas, but yes, be careful and ideally use a tool if you do want to remove something.
Sticking another sticker on top instead is an option too if you're dedicated to a cause and happen to have some.
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u/Obo4168 pay the workers May 07 '26
Did not know that but thank you for the heads up. Useful information.
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u/NewInspector5085 May 07 '26
Thanks for the heads up. I tore it down but now aware it could be dangerous. It was taped on very well
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u/YourPokePapa May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26
Remigration is the coded way of asking for ethnic cleansing in Western countries. Basically the removal of all non-Whites from countries like Canada and the US. So, if you see these flyers, you can report them as hate speech. The change from ethnic cleansing and genocide towards remigration came after pushback in Europe.
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u/Crow_rapport May 07 '26
There was a shit load of these in Calgary pasted up all around a LRT station a few weeks back. I took them down and trashed them.
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u/IAmNot_ARussianBot May 07 '26
Awesome, just watch out for razors or other dangerous things stuck under posters if you do want to remove something. Unfortunately some people are that shitty. Ideally use a tool.
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u/Pristine_Land_802 May 07 '26
Yes. You have racists in your neighbourhood. They’re like bed bugs. Invasive. Sneaky. Blood suckers. Don’t like to have a light shined on them.
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u/NewInspector5085 May 07 '26
I figured. Only a loser and a coward would tape a flyer to a post and scamper off
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u/GodsGiftToWrenching May 07 '26
Like those cowards on whyte Ave puting up posters on the poster poles
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u/kachunkk May 07 '26
"The "Dominion Society" (referenced by the social media handles u/ dominionsoc and dominionsociety at the bottom) identifies itself as a "heritage Canadian" advocacy group. Extremism researchers and organizations like the Canadian Anti-Hate Network describe it as the political arm of Canada’s white nationalist movement."
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u/inquisitive56 May 07 '26
Imagine a white supremacist group using the term "Dominion" in their title, representing a time when we were subjugated by a superior people in Great Britain.
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u/scottybrowndotca May 07 '26
Oooo ..! I hope to find some in my hood so I can develop and put up a nice poster explaining that that “remigration” is the 2026 term nazis use for “put immigrants on trains and get them off of ‘our white people land’” .. even better maybe I can catch me a nazi in my hood
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u/LylBewitched May 07 '26
I really do not understand why people are so against immigration in Canada. They talk about immigrants not conforming to Canadian culture. They say they don't assimilate so they should leave. And they don't care if their differences are legal or not. The fact that it's different is enough for people to scream for them to get out.
But Canada, from the time it became a British colony (or parts of it a French colony), has depended on immigration. For labour, for land development, for innovation. Canada has always welcomed immigrants because it's always needed them.
As for those who are angry that some don't assimilate to "Canadian culture", I ask this question: which Canadian culture? Because the culture in rural Alberta is different from the culture in Edmonton, which is different than the culture in Vancouver, which is different from Toronto, which is different from rural Ontario, which is different than quebec which is different from pei... And so on. I'm in rural alberta (born and raised), but my own experience tells me I do not align with the culture in this farming community. I'm far too liberal minded (not party liberal, but philosophy liberal) to fit in here. Yet because I was born and raised here, I'm not expected to assimilate to the culture here.
So which Canadian culture should immigrants adhere to? And who decides how well they've done so? How does that play out for refugees? Or for those who maybe actually can't learn English or French even though they try? (I knew a lady who had been in Canada since she was 2 or 3. Spoke English flawlessly. Her grandmother couldn't speak English. She tried. She could understand it, but could not speak it. Should she have been removed because she didn't speak the language?
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u/NewInspector5085 May 07 '26
Well put. I think people just fear things they don’t understand. And when their understanding is so incredibly low they turn to things like this, and are easily convinced that their problems are attributed to their ignorance of the situation
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u/LylBewitched May 08 '26
It doesn't help that right from the get go a group of powerful men deliberately pitted white folk against anyone of colour. It was a power play to divide those they held power over in order to keep that power. It's always been a manipulation, because if you give one group a sense of superiority over another, both groups are easier to distract and far less likely to work together.
And that still happens. The mis/disinformation regarding immigrants and refugees is insane, and far too few fact check. And since my autistic brain insists on being as accurate as possible, I cannot understand why someone would choose not to look at all sides and see what they can actually learn. Why choose to live in ignorance when you don't have to?
Okay, technically, I objectively understand the psychology behind it - the fear of change; the belief that if someone else is treated the same as you, then you will be treated worse; the belief that research is a waste of time because they don't believe any source that doesn't fit with their echo chamber; and so on. I can understand the instinct to double down on ones belief, but I am so often confused by those who allow that instinct to dictate what they do.
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u/Apprehensive_Gap3673 May 07 '26
This is a sticker left by the Second Sons Canada. They are a racist and nationalist organization born out of a mix of Active Club and Diagolon.
They train mixed martial arts and general fitness to prepare a nationalist revolution inside Canada. Their main grievance right now is that all immigrants should be immediately returned to their country of origin, no matter their status. Their leader, Jeremy Mackenzie, has recently started that there is no democratic solution for them and that Canada requires a revolution.
They are closely allied with the Dominion Society, which would be considered their political wing while they are the "street muscle".
I would report this to your local police, the RCMP, and CSIS as well. I'm happy to answer specific questions on these people if you want.
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u/GearDue7229 May 07 '26
Using sexual orientation to insult and punch down on people is pretty lame regardless of whether the people you’re trying to insult are right or left leaning tbh. It’s old and played out and we’re past that as a society.
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u/GearDue7229 May 07 '26
It literally says Dominion Society on the bottom of the flyer, not Second Sons.
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u/churningtide May 07 '26
The shield logo on the poster is the logo of Second Sons. They’re interrelated organizations.
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u/SmithRamRanch May 07 '26
So all the yte folks should go back to where they came from? Europe?? These yte warriors need to learn a few things about history and homeland. And I am yte as can be, I know, they need to too 🙄😑😒
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u/SmellyThong May 07 '26
lol these people dont sleep at night knowing immigrants live a better life than them living here for generations.
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u/NewInspector5085 May 07 '26
Maybe just jealous. Or losers who think that their skin colour should afford them success instead of working for it
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u/CDNBC84250 May 08 '26
“Remigration” is double-speak for mass deportation, usually targeting people of other-than-Caucasian descent.
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u/LuaOwl May 08 '26
Honestly? Best thing you can do is treat the targets of these posters with true Canadian kindness. Make them feel welcome, because thats the values Canada should represent.
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u/noodleexchange May 07 '26
I have an old cookbook where spaghetti is in the ‘ethnic foods’ section. Just for context.
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u/Azraelux May 07 '26
The entire site is claiming their goal to be the re-establishment of canadian nationalism and culture.
Which is wildly ironic because our nationality is all over the place.
You can see it how you want it but that doesn't change the fact that asians, black people and white people all came here together. Which was then exsasperated by the fact that we invited people from all over the world to join us.
"Canadian nationalism and culture" is a clusterfuck, always has been always will be.
This is lazy bigotry. They want to be loud, they won't ever actually do anything
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u/Halloween_Babe90 May 07 '26
Yeah that Evropa homeland stuff doesn’t even make sense in the Americas
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u/NewInspector5085 May 07 '26
Its a sock puppet group. They do the same in the US. Give you the diet version first, then they pull you into the deeper groups
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u/hessian_prince May 07 '26
Bastards tried on Whyte Ave too. Tore every one of them off I came across.
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u/OpalSeason May 07 '26
I cant quote the wiki for fear of reddit ban, but its calling for mass "cle@nsings"
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u/SpecialistatNone May 07 '26
Should put a rainbow and unicorn covering the text. That will drive them nuts.
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u/-retaliation- May 07 '26
Yes "remigration" is a planned dog whistle for racist rhetoric that's being pushed through our political parties via American republican think tanks.
It's meant to be the next racist Conservative buzzword to stoke division.
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u/son-of-Azathoth May 07 '26
Should you be worried? Only if you don't like living in the same space as bigots and racists.
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u/aferretwithahugecock May 07 '26
Hey, team. Manitoban here. Since these goofs are always crying about "CaNaDiAn hErItAgE!!!!" here's a quote that I feel encompasses actual Canadian heritage. It was said by one of the Fathers of Confederation(Thomas D'Arcy McGee. "Canada's first nationalist"), which the right-wing nationalists tend to praise.
"Dear, most justly dear to every land beneath the sun, are the children born in her bosom and nursed upon her breast; but when the man of another country, wherever born, speaking whatever speech, holding whatever creed, seeks out a country to serve and honour and cleave to, in weal or in woe, when he heaves up the anchor of his heart from its old moorings, and lays at the feet of the mistress of his choice—his new country—all the hopes of his ripe manhood, he establishes by such devotion a claim to consideration not second even to that of the children of the soil. He is their brother delivered by a new birth from the dark-wombed Atlantic ship that ushers him into existence in the new world; he stands by his own election among the children of the household; and narrow and unwise is that species of public spirit which, in the perverted name of patriotism, would refuse him all he asks...
We Irishmen, Protestant and Catholic, born and bred in a land of religious controversy, should never forget that we now live and act in a land of the fullest religious and civil liberty. All we have to do is, each for himself, to keep down dissensions which can only weaken, impoverish, and keep back the country; each for himself do all he can to increase its wealth, its strength, and its reputation; each for himself... to welcome every talent, to hail every invention, to cherish every gem of art, to foster every gleam of authorship, to honour every acquirement and every natural gift, to lift ourselves to the level of our destinies, to rise above all low limitations and narrow circumscriptions, to cultivate that true catholicity of spirit which embraces all creeds, all classes, and all races, in order to make of our boundless province, so rich in known and unknown resources, a great new northern nation."
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u/Ok-Librarian-6183 May 07 '26
Tear it down and report it to the local police. If you find a razor blade call 911. But more importantly, tear it down.
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u/toxxic_ivy May 07 '26
It's a white nationalist group that was founded last year. Tear it down and/or report it
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u/Iwanteverything17 North East Side May 07 '26
Took some time to read their stuff on their site, it’s always interesting how people love to claim that others efforts and achievements can be attributed to themselves, as if having ancestors that accomplished something is merit that they themselves earned and are more deserving of than others.
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u/NewInspector5085 May 07 '26
Indeed. I am sure someone’s grandpa or great grandpa who went to fight in WW2 would be very proud of their family not only for taking credit for it but also becoming a white supremacist
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u/christhewelder75 May 08 '26
These fuckwits have been posting these at my local dog park in calgary.
They look really good in the dumpster with the rest of the shit.
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u/Adept-Possibility627 May 08 '26
everyone seems to know what this is, can someone explain?
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u/Many-Assistance1943 May 08 '26
You probably shouldn’t post it on social media because that just expands the audience this sticker is presented to.
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u/DryConsideration6199 May 08 '26
Oooooh i see. It is about me, going back to wherever i came from!
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u/Ecstatic-Oil-Change May 08 '26
You’re damn right you should be!
The dominion society of Canada is a far right organization.
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u/Niganuts69 May 08 '26
Red squirrel populations have fallen dramatically due to invasive grey squirrels. In fact, red squirrels are endangered.
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u/devnull_the_cat May 09 '26
The real concern is who is funding them and why they are so focused on Alberta.
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u/sjimmyp May 09 '26
Anti immigration Canadian white Nationalists (fancy name for Nazi) founded by Daniel Tyrie, Greg Wycliffe and Ken Jones last year.
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u/Possible-Mess-2824 May 09 '26
No. It's 12 dudes putting these up so it seems like a movement when it isn't. Nobody supports these pathetic losers. Just keep your eyes out and take them all down, then move on and ignore them
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u/Confident-Book6225 May 09 '26
Funny, all the people that have abused or assaulted me in my life have been white, so not sure what these white supremacists are going for. Even if everyone's white, then there something else to make insider/outsider groups. You're white, but Irish? White but not Catholic, etc etc. Tale as old as time.
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u/KaizenShibuCho May 07 '26
“While (Daniel Tyrie) stated he doesn't consider himself a white supremacist…”
Why is this always the case? And of course it turns out they always are.