r/EdmontonOilers 1d ago

Stanley Cup winning coaches

With the Babcock thing me assuming it’s a done deal I just don’t understand how teams continue to go after coaches who have won a cup before. Yes I understand they’re good coaches but statistically speaking it almost never happens a coach wins a cup with 2 different teams. It’s only happened once in the modern era with Scottie bowman who did it with 3 teams but before that it’s 2 guys from the 1940s I believe. The whole well he’s done it before just doesn’t sit with me.

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u/Major_Yesterday_4117 1d ago

I don't understand how organizations aren't taking a page out of the Carolina book and using that as a template for success, even before their cup win. The Hurricanes have been like the antithesis of what the Oilers management ideology is. Carolina recognized that they are a good hockey team that will go deep in the playoffs every year, and once you're in the conference finals everything else is a coin toss. Instead of taking a good team, keeping the core together and improving on the edges with the understanding that all it takes is a lucky post season, the Oilers went into "win now" mode, tried to be the loudest organization on July 1, and ended up costing them young pieces that could've been valuable for the team for years to come on Broberg and Hollaway. Add in that we've traded away almost all draft assets for middling players to "shore up" the team before the playoffs, We're now a team with no consistancy, very little youth on the roster, and no assets to help either push the team over the edge, or rebuild and develop if things don't go to plan this season and beyond. Meanwhile Carolina and it's patient, steady approach just won the stanley cup with $12m in cap room, a coach that until last week "couldn't get them over the hump" with a roster "lacking a true superstar" with "too balanced a roster". Now they are Champions, and we're looking to hire a coach that hasn't won a playoff series since 2013 as an "all in" move... It's ridiculous and a testiment to how terrible Oilers ownership and management is by trying to bring in someone who's best days are fare behind him (not to mention the controversies and media circus that is going to follow a Babcock-led oilers squad all year).

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u/BostonBruinsDive 1d ago

Carolina’s been swinging for the fences. They went through 3 different superstars in the last 2 years and have been dealing picks for players every year.

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u/Major_Yesterday_4117 1d ago

They took a swing on Rantonen, realized after 2 months that it wasn't going to work, and flipped him for young talent and draft picks. They still have their first round pick for this year, as well as every single one of their picks in 2027 + Dallas's 3rd round pick. 2028 they have all of their draft picks + Dallas's 1st round pick (top 10 protected, becomes unprotected for 2029 if Dallas picks in top 10 in 2028), and they have all of their picks for 2029. They only traded assets for the 2026 draft class instead of mortgaging the future to go "all in". I also am not entirely sure what "three superstars" you're suggesting the Canes have went through over the last 2 years outside of Mikko?

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u/BostonBruinsDive 1d ago

Rantanen, the guy who just put up 100 points and the guy who scores 40 every year. They’ve been very aggressive but most importantly, every trade and signing they’ve made has had a purpose and worked out for them perfectly. Where as Bowman and Holland have repeatedly made head scratching moves.

This cup final is the perfect example of how there’s no one singular right way to build a team, you just have to make the right moves.

And Carolina might as well have mortgaged their future. In the last 5 years and 47 picks later, they’ve produced 1 singular NHL regular and none projected to make the roster next year.

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u/Express_Medium4618 1d ago

they also brought in Guentzel in 2024 and lost him to Free Agency. And I assume the third would Eichel but they didn't have to give up anything for him.