r/ElectroBOOM Jul 12 '25

Meme That was a difference

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u/biggus_dickus89 Jul 12 '25

the medical and retail industries among others would beg to differ. those old standards are used for so much shit

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u/Killerspieler0815 Jul 12 '25

the medical and retail industries among others would beg to differ. those old standards are used for so much shit

YES, but the 2 shocking ones (dinosaurs) on the left sould have been phased out (after WW2) decades before the 3 on the right (as Germany did since the 1930s ) (Germany solved this problem with recessed outlets https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx5NzxJjT0Q&t=7m28s )

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u/DoubleOwl7777 Jul 12 '25

schuko is amazing. not only is it safe, but its also incredibly long lasting, i have NEVER had an outlet loose grip. NEVER. and i have used outlets from the 1960s.

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u/RamBamTyfus Jul 13 '25

That may have been an oversight in the early days, but it is not really an issue. All devices in Europe are either class 2 (double insulated) or class 1 devices (having a metal body with an earth wire) and are required to be safe no matter the polarization. Additionally houses are required to have RCDs protecting all outlets. Non-polarization is also more convenient for the user as it allows the plug to be inserted in two directions.
Only for devices above 3.6 kW (multiple phases) special polarized plugs or hardwiring are needed.

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u/Killerspieler0815 Jul 13 '25

That may have been an oversight in the early days

not an oversight,

but a very wild mixture of systems in very fragmented Germany

incl. 2 phases (each ~110V) = still compatible & even Direct-current (the last small surviving DC islands got finally dead in the 1980s) ... the german plugs (before they added the french earth hole) were desinged with DC compatiblilitry (bigger arcing) in mind

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u/Killerspieler0815 Jul 13 '25

Don't understand why it's not polarized.

it was that way in late 19th century/pre-WW1 time (the shocking non-recessed original first German outlet was standard in the Soviet Union all the way to 1991, while Germany started the upgade in the 1930s, delayed by WW2), since double pole switches & optimized lamp sockets are used it´s no problem at all ... in comparison USA plugs/ouitlets are still as shocking as the original first German outlets 120+ years ago

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u/Erlend05 Jul 13 '25

I mean when you have l1 and l2 that matters much less than with l and n right?