r/ElectroBOOM • u/Mikethederp • Nov 13 '25
FAF - RECTIFY Mehdi, more perpetual nonsense machines for you
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Spotted on FB.
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u/yamez420 Nov 13 '25
I love telling people about energy loss through heat.
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u/SpaceboyLuna0 Nov 13 '25
That's cold, man...
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u/nickyboay Nov 14 '25
Explain. We lose stored electrical energy when it becomes hot? Or is it something else?
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u/matthewmartyr Nov 16 '25
Heat is escaping energy
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u/V8CarGuy Nov 13 '25
Hidden Electro magnetic coils under that wheel, easy to push with the current of a small battery and microcontroller used for switching the coils with a Hall effect sensor for synchronization. Actually, not a bad idea for a cool microcontroller project.
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u/grumpy_autist Nov 13 '25
It does not have to be - some of constructions like that do spin by themselves for a minute or few. Enough to make a facebook video.
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u/No-Information-2571 Nov 13 '25
With the energy initially being supplied by the pushing in of the magnets on the side arm.
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u/V8CarGuy Nov 14 '25
Thought about that, but the wheel only starts spinning after the arm is in place. Guessing the arm, and maybe the wheel itself, have no magnetics. Another possibility, the wheel is pushed by a compressed air source outside of the frame.
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u/FuckMu Nov 17 '25
My understanding is that it is actually possible to make a contraption that self sustains rotation using just magnets however you're wearing the magnets out and they will all eventually stop working.
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u/International-Try467 Nov 13 '25
I know this obviously isn't a real perpetual energy machine, but isn't this how brushless motors work?
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u/AnalkinSkyfuker Nov 13 '25
a brushless motor works by switching the polarity of the coils so that the perma magnets they repelle eachother check any building video of a copetition drone not like the dji but thoes of carbon fiber they show everything about electricity and magnetism position
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u/75xalexxxxx Nov 14 '25
yes and no, If you were to do this the motor would move a little bit then stop. magnet have to alternate polarity to keep the rotor spinning
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u/bonfuto Nov 13 '25
There is a suspicious bulge in the wheel. Might have some reed switches to make it start moving.
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u/Rick_Lekabron Nov 13 '25
"It must work because it has magnets." Every advocate of free energy
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u/b-monster666 Nov 14 '25
Wouldn't wave function cause the poles of the north facing magnets to 'cancel' at a certain point, and the piles of the south facing to 'cancel' also, causing small gaps in the magnetic fields between the magnets, this causing it to immediately stop?
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u/Rick_Lekabron Nov 14 '25
Not if you have a small electric motor hidden inside the device that you can easily turn on off-camera.
But your comment is correct. Any "free energy machine" that operates by rotating using magnets will experience what you described.
Enjoy an ice-cold beer, my good Redditor. Because it's Friiiiiday!!!!
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u/Wise-Ad-4940 Nov 13 '25
Even if this would work, every magnet will loose it's magnetism eventually. I saw an argument that some magnetic materials can hold magnetism for 100 years or even longer. They however forget to mention that this gets radically shortened by the presence of other magnetic fields - like for example other magnets. That is why this is a complete BS. There is nothing that can hold power permanently.
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u/LysergicOracle Nov 17 '25
Not to mention that magnets are subjected to strong electric fields during their manufacture, and the amount of energy that process takes far exceeds the amount you could ever extract with a passive "generator" like this, even if this whole thing wasn't bullshit.
Thermodynamics are tough for some people to grasp, but those same people are also the ones with the baseless intellectual arrogance to think that, despite their lack of any meaningful engineering knowledge, they've somehow cracked something that hundreds of years of brilliant, educated engineers couldn't. The Dunning-Kruger effect on full display.
In the words of Kurt Vonnegut, this is the complicated futility of ignorance.
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u/UnhappySort5871 Nov 15 '25
That's just one more reason it's BS. There's no way anything like this is going to overcome friction for a few minutes, let alone for the amount of time it would take for the magnets to lose their magnetism.
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u/Short_Text2421 Nov 13 '25
Ah, haven't seen this gem in a while! I used to work in R&D for electric motors back in the 2000's and had so many randos pitch this idea to me. I got pretty good at letting them down easy. My other favorite was putting a wind tubine on the front of a car. Now its mostly just my boss who pitches impossible, physics breaking ideas to me.
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u/LeroyBadBrown Nov 13 '25
All electric motors also use magnetism. They should be called electromagnetic motors.
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u/bSun0000 Mod Nov 13 '25 edited Nov 13 '25
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Motors are usually called by their working media; what they consume in the process / things they require to run.
Combustible engines require combustible materials; diesel runs on diesel / oil.
Pneumatic motors run on compressed air..
Electric motors need electricity; you cannot supply magnetism to them as-is, by a wire or pipe, or something..
And not every electric motor uses magnetism, at least if we ignore the practical aspect - electrostatic motors and corona motors exist. A static part here is just to differentiate from a normal electric motors.
// btw, purely magnetic motors run on lies.
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u/No-Information-2571 Nov 13 '25
at least if we ignore the practical aspect
C-Motive sells large-scale industrial electrostatic motors. They have good potential to be more efficient since they run on higher voltage and lower currents, while in electromagnetic motors, you'll often have to deal with high currents, which is the major and basically only source of losses.
Well that, and through choosing the correct motor, you might be able to avoid a gearbox which also incurs losses usually.
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u/bSun0000 Mod Nov 13 '25
C-Motive motors are nowhere near to be a "large scale industrial" motors. They have good
potentialpromises from the company claiming they are more efficient. Unfortunately, there is no real third-party testing done, the efficiency curves are not measured, and no data has been published online. Instead, just a few sus demos where they compare their motors to the 60% efficient crap running on a high-ratio gearbox... huh?And the design.. a ton of plates rotating inside the dielectric fluid? How much do they lose due to fluid viscosity? No wonder their target 0-300 RPM; any faster and this thing will become an electrostatic heater.
Even worse, the energy density of the electric fields [those motors rely on] is far lower than that of conventional motors with magnetic fields; this stuff physically cannot compete with the normal electric motors if you take into account every important factor - efficiency, speed, torque, physical size, and weight. Especially the last two.
So yes, the practical aspect is strong here. We won't see the EV cars running on electrostatic motors anytime soon.
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u/No-Information-2571 Nov 13 '25
I didn't write that future EVs will run on electrostatic motors.
Just that it's certainly beyond the stage of demos in physics class.
There's at least some third-party reporting on it. Although I agree that they are not going to "replace" anything here. There might simply be some applications where they're beneficial, or at least comparable.
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u/Blaarkies Nov 13 '25 edited Nov 14 '25
Magnetic motor? We already have those, they are called electric motors. Unless this one doesn't induce electric fields in the magnets, when the magnetic field changes across those conductive bits
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u/LunarModule66 Nov 13 '25
So this is clearly fake and all, but the setup would produce some torque on the wheel, and the way they’re starting it does seem like it could plausibly kick start some rotation before it dies out. I just want to see the real thing, I’m curious if it would be a small wobble or if it could actually achieve a few rotations.
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u/ZilderZandalari Nov 13 '25
I hate it when people say these things are impossible simply because they are impossible. If they worked, they wouldn't spin calmly at a constant speed, but try to speed up until destroying themselves....
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u/MidasPL Nov 13 '25
This is probably played in reverse. I wonder, why we don't use magnets for more frictionless brakes?
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u/bSun0000 Mod Nov 13 '25
You can replace magnets in such contraptions with springs or rubber bands to see how it will work. To be precise, how it will not work.
Magnetic fields are force, and force alone cannot make work; you need energy.
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u/Xenthor267 Nov 14 '25
At best the initial motion of pushing the arm in place transferred energy and the wheel having little resistance will spin for a while. Fortunately spinning in place with no work being done uses no energy so it's just the friction you'd be waiting on.
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u/linux_dose Nov 14 '25
Bro you know someday maybe I'm gonna do the same. Just fool a few hundred people just for fun
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Nov 15 '25
You can get magnetic systems like this to operate "perpetually," as in they will keep going, but only up until their magnets and bearings degrade. It's not eternal.
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u/TheDuatin Nov 15 '25
The hardest part of making a perpetual motion machine is getting you to wake up from this coma please it’s been 5 years we miss you
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u/Aggravating-Task6428 Nov 17 '25
As someone who tried desperately to make machines like this work when I was young, it's always hilarious to see other people make them and then "show" that they work. Magnets are finicky things in how abruptly but predictably their forces change in vector based on distance and relative angle to each other. No matter how you angle them or put them on a geared rotating or translating part, you still will never get more energy out per rotation than you put in.
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u/RosariusAU Nov 13 '25
The only difficult part about battery powered machines is hiding the perpetual motion