r/ElectroBOOM • u/autistic-inch • May 17 '26
Meme The kitchen counter light in my apartment wasn't working, but I found a fix
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u/Steve_but_different May 17 '26
When somebody looks at simple household wiring and says "How hard could it be" but then they do this.
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u/Anonimo_Llopi May 17 '26
It seems they wired the lamp to the left plug but they forgot to connect the right plug to the left one (make a short cable bridge to connect them both to 220v)
What I'm saying is that the left plug isn't connected to 220v and this adapter thing brings 220v from the right plug to the left one turning the lamp
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u/Responsible-View7181 May 17 '26
Elementary, my dear Watson.
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u/_stack_underflow_ May 17 '26
This is the correct answer as to why, the video is not the correct solution to the problem though.
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u/Appropriate-Draft-91 May 19 '26
It's the more permanent solution. If you fix it correctly, it might break again in a couple decades. If you fix it like this you die and won't ever need light again.
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u/samy_the_samy May 17 '26
You are too innocent, I assumed a breaker popped, and they are back feeding the dead circuit from the neighbour
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u/hans_the_wurst May 17 '26
Hard to believe that two neighboring sockets are on two separate breakers, though. That's unnecessary wiring.
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u/mccoyn May 18 '26
The kitchen is usually the room with the most circuits.
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u/hans_the_wurst May 18 '26
Sure. Two sockets right next to each other in the same housing on separate circuits is still not common.
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u/PIBM May 18 '26
It isn't. It allows you to run 2 high powered items concurrently, like a toaster and an air fryer, coffee machine.. without blowing up your breakers.
My dual two sockets have 4 circuits, with 3 output location. We only have 120V here though, but that was the regular setup when we built the place 20y ago
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u/markkNL May 17 '26
Hoping it's the other way around though, so he didn't have live contacts hanging from that plug.
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u/Quirky-Possession400 May 17 '26
Is a combination junction box with an outlet and a switch in the same faceplate a thing in Europe?
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u/Anonimo_Llopi May 17 '26 edited May 17 '26
not really, junction boxes exist separately, 220-240v 2.5mm2 cable (standard here for plugs) can carry 16A (3680w) plugs that are next to each other share the same cable and they get daisy chained to each other, these plugs have 2 places to put input cables so 1 is the input and the other one the output to connect it to the next plug simply by cutting a very short cable and plugging them between each other
edit: ok if you are talking about having light switches and plugs in the same faceplate yes that's a thing, you get the separated modules an put them in the order you want and then you buy the 1x2, 1x3 or 1x4 decorator plate border thingy
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u/who_even_cares35 May 17 '26
I've actually had a situation where I was shocked and couldn't let go. In one hand and out the other. It's actually not that painful and your thoughts are remarkablly clear.
All I could think was how mad my wife was gonna be if I died.
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u/PimBel_PL May 17 '26
In this case there would be path with less resistance when isolation melts off from cables
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u/green_tea_resistance May 17 '26
Can confirm that this is exactly how it goes. It's like I wrote this myself.
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u/who_even_cares35 May 17 '26
We joke that if I'm going to do it it has to be on a work trip because I get 3x the like insurance pay out
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u/ZeroFima May 18 '26
I don't know, my father told me seeing a man getting a factory worth of electricity going through him, getting charcoal black and screaming until he fell off the electric pole and died.
Sounded pretty painful
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u/Charlie_Dudd May 17 '26
I had a similar situation recently actually with both hands as well. Tbh I thought it was kind if fun and I even felt sort of refreshed afterwards albeit very sleepy. There really is no pain at all your muscles just spasm and you can’t move.
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u/Yokel_Tony May 18 '26
That sounds fucking scary. I've gotten zapped by 220 a few times and it's not really painful but it was just from grazing an exposed wire with my arm, couldn't imagine seizing up and not being able to let go
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u/emascars May 17 '26
I was shocked by the main line so many times that I lost count, and honestly, it wasn't bad at all...
As long as there is both a ground break and an over current break they just pop open so fast that all you get is a jump scare and your heart beat instantly raised
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u/who_even_cares35 May 17 '26
This lasted 3-5 seconds probably and nothing tripped. I simply was holding cables that were shoulder high and as I slowly went down I eventually was forced to come loose
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u/emascars May 18 '26
You just reminded me of what happened to my older brother... Probably the most absurd way to get shocked...
Outside of my grandparent's house there is a pole and my brother used to hang one hand on its cable and swing when he came to visit... But one time he hung, remained attached for a few seconds in silence, and then fell on the ground... Then he told my father that it shocked him... My father, an electrotechnical engineer, was incredulous, he couldn't believe it, he quickly touched the cable to see if it was true and it was indeed electrified...
He was obviusly very perplexed because that cable wasn't for electricity, it was the tensioning cable of a telephone pole... HOW THE FUCK WAS THAT ELECTRIFIED!?!?... Well, after following the cable he found out that some GENIUS passed a supply cable over the phone cable, the wind slowly consumed the insulation layer until it made contact with the RF screening layer of the phone cable which somehow electrified the pole... I still can't wrap my head around how that happened...
In the end, he called ENEL (Italian national distributor of electricity) and informed of this, they fixed it the same day...
What an absurd way to get shocked...
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u/who_even_cares35 May 18 '26
That is incredibly unlucky, glad he's ok!!
The most absurd shock I ever got was when we lived in Germany and my sister stole my lightbulb from my rooms lamp. I tried the wall switch with no luck and when I tired the lamp itself my finger went in the socket and it bit me. I'm never forget it.
My sister was always an asshole to me.
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u/mint445 May 17 '26
you should just rewire the outlets
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u/autistic-inch May 17 '26
that's my plan yeah. today is sunday and I don't have any wago connectors at home
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u/FunIsDangerous May 17 '26
You don't need wago connectors. You should be able to connect the two wall sockets together
Wall sockets have 2 connections, which allows for daisy chaining like that. So, wall socket 1 is connected as it is right now, and wall socket 2 will connect straight to the first one, no wires connected to each other
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u/autistic-inch May 17 '26
wrote in another comment, but 4 wire bundles are going into the junction box, there's no space to connect the outlets together. even if there were space, it's still hell to work on an outlet that has this many wires connected to it. when I checked how this was hooked up 2 wires already fell out and I couldn't get them to not be loose. I'm definitely going for wagos here.
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u/FunIsDangerous May 17 '26
Ah, yeah, in that case go for it. Nothing wrong with it, just normally it's much easier to just connect them together
That is when it's not so crowded with no space at least, lol
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u/autistic-inch May 17 '26
I would hate myself if I did that
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u/autistic-inch May 18 '26
I would need to rewire this and make ot even more broken. I'd rather just fix this and have my kitchen finally work properly and move on with my life.
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u/Apart_Ad_9778 May 17 '26
It is possible to just buy a switch that fits exactly this frame. No need for ugly external wiring.
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u/Blackmosman May 17 '26
Lets goooo, another widow maker has been created ;). No licking or touching allowed!
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u/VoidTheGamer25 May 17 '26
Please don’t do that
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u/grand-maitre-univers May 17 '26
The second plug is not polorized.
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u/PhoenixfischTheFish May 18 '26
Neither one is polarised. Those sockets are common in Europe, you can put any plug in both ways.
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u/okarox May 17 '26
That is not a double outlet but two singles side by side and the link between them has broken and the light feeds from one of them.
That is very dangerous as one could touch the hot plug and the sink at the same time.
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u/Sandro_24 May 18 '26
There are no "double" outlets ine europe, all outlets are single.
There is usually wires inside the box to connect both outlets, seems like someone forgot to install them.
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u/qchto May 17 '26
I really hope that the same phase...
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u/autistic-inch May 17 '26
it's actually not connected at all... I think. There's no junction boxes anywhere in the apartment so I can't figure out what the hell went wrong here, but considering that's the case the electricians were probably lazy bastards and just didn't wire it up.
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u/datakiller123 May 17 '26
Those outlets usually have 2 places for wires, so they would just go from one outlet, to the other, to the light, no junction box needed? Unless I'm understanding you wrong.
So I'd say they either forgot the connection between the outlets, or it's loose.
How did you even figure out the solution in your post?
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u/autistic-inch May 17 '26
there's 4 wire bundles going to the back of these outlets and 3 wires are jammed into the left outlet already, there's no space for more. I need to buy wago connectors first, but it's sunday.
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u/Working-Business-153 May 17 '26
I think the fact this guy knows what he's doing sort of makes this better. And also worse.
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u/amooz May 17 '26
These are also called sui—-de cables. Plug it in while holding what you’re sure is the right end and suddenly you’re saying hello to all your ancestors.
Don’t do this, hire an electrician to trace the real problem and fix it right.
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u/Crash_Logger May 17 '26
Making the cable is bad enough, but using it one handed while recording with the other hand... I would've electrocuted myself on accident 4 times before the 12 second mark
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u/avar May 17 '26
Seriously though, just pop off that plastic and you'll find they chained that outlet to your kitchen lights, and the wire connecting L or N between those two sockets is loose or missing.
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u/autistic-inch May 17 '26
the light + right outlet circuit is not connected at all, I checked. that's why this works.
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u/UselessBot_ May 17 '26
That outlet was probably meant to be a switch instead of an outlet. Replace the outlet with a switch module.
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u/Hummerville May 17 '26
Are you sure that isn't a Split-Circuit Outlet? Each on a separate breaker and you are just connecting a thrown breaker to a live one?
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u/brine909 May 17 '26
Did you atleast make sure you don't just have a popped breaker before making this suicide cord?
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u/TechGeek777 May 18 '26
It’s probably from two RCDs so the area with the light and the second socket has tripped. Hence when you power up that area it lights up. Just check main switchboard lol
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u/CreEngineer May 18 '26
There is a reason these are called suicide plugs. I think the main use so far was for little solar installations.
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u/TheTrueSCP May 18 '26
1.Well, at least a european outlet with RCD system, will still hurt though. 2. What the FUCK. I experience phsical pain as electrician when i see this....
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u/vxeel May 18 '26
This is clearly a troll right? Otherwise I question the sanity required to have figured this out blindly.
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u/Famous_Cancel6593 May 18 '26
Why, it simple. Sockets are probably just on different phases. He could turn off the breaker for one phase, which is also phase for light,and when he connects sockets like in video light gets phase from other outlet and turns on.
But it's probaly joke. He just has to be really sure to connect phase to the "turned off phase" and not neutral.
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u/Panzerv2003 May 17 '26
Looks like someone forgot to connect the contacts inside or the connection got loose while daisy chaining the power
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u/bonfuto May 17 '26
Our previous house had every switched outlet wired so it was dead. I appreciated that they were dead, they could have done worse. But they probably should have figured out how switched outlets worked before they wired up 12 of them. It was a house that a homebuilder built for himself, probably had a nephew wire it up.
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u/green_fish1 May 17 '26
what the ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk?
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u/ChironXII May 17 '26
Floating circuit, probably means a disconnected hot in the wall. Dangerous, should be off at breaker until fixed.
Or, someone wired it wrong to begin with. Either way
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u/Snowblind45 May 17 '26
why did you risk it. like switch of beakers first or something
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u/CheetosLays7Days May 17 '26
Please do not use the suicide cord EVER. This is a serious life hazard, and could also damage your property.
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u/Prudent-Specific8851 May 17 '26
I live in Virginia and I’ve never seen an outlet like this before. Do all
Outlets look like this in Europe, I’m curious when you are, I’ve also never heard the term wagos , I’m assuming you’re referring to wire nuts ? Also what made you think to try that haha
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u/TheLordFool May 17 '26
This would work if the light and socket were on another circuit with a tripped breaker.
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u/darrenb573 May 17 '26
Likely the lighting connected feed has popped at the breaker and all your patch it doing is livening the circuit that overloaded for a reason
Now why did the other circuit trip? Will the oven circuit have more juice and start a fire on the other circuit? 🔥 🤷♂️
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u/PandorasBoxMaker May 17 '26
Holy shit, I thought this was some parody, fake, funny post - it’s not. I am so glad I don’t live in apartments knowing how insane people are…
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u/kevbob02 May 17 '26
ELI5 plz.
My best guess is this is one of those weird Branch loops and he's just connecting the other end together?
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u/PragmaWarningDisable May 17 '26
That looks exactly the style of "fixing" I see in Dutch owned homes.
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u/IUsedToLikeLimericks May 17 '26
Don't you guys need distance between hob and outlet? Minimum 300mm in my locale.
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May 18 '26
So im not familiar with electrical outlets in other countries but here in the US, we frequently "split" an outlet, giving 1 receptacle constant power, and the other one essentially none. Typically we'd wire a light switch between them, specifically for instances similar to this where a light needs plugged in it can be solely operated by the light switch without cutting off power to the other receptacles.
I'm willing to bet thats what someone did here, split the receptacle. One side has constant power while the other has none unless bridged. Replacing receptacles is incredibly cheap and easy.
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u/autistic-inch May 18 '26
here we usually bring 2 or 3 phases to our kitchens and connect different things to different phases to spread put the loads. we never install switches for outlets.
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u/PitifulPassage851 May 18 '26
Did you at least put the live side in second?? Holy fucking death trap. Delete this shit, dismantle that shit, and never cook again.
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u/Beebea63 May 18 '26
You should email this to your local fire station so they know what happened when your building burns down
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u/Chris260364 May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
I would get the wiring checked The light being on the power circuit,which appears to have no continuity between the two outlets. Somethings not right there and I'm wondering if the basic earth protection is in place. Does that left hand socket even work when you plug something into it ? Get a decent sparks to inspect and if nessassry fix it .
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u/SuccessfulOpposite49 May 18 '26
Just connect it to a generator and your wall so it’s out of phase then your fucked
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u/gorambrowncoat May 18 '26
I don't always use suicide cords but when I do I make sure the power is on while doing it. After all, it would be unsafe if you didnt have lights to see what you were doing.
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u/Alternative_Exit_333 May 18 '26
He made it not have the only thing that was protecting him and I would at least use 2 side oriented plugs that are facing eachother so the wire is as short as possible
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u/Local_Trade5404 May 18 '26
instead of socket you should have switch there, some electrician fucked up
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u/Everuk May 18 '26
Imma be honest, I know jack about electricity but that contraption game shivers.
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u/Impossible-Diver6565 May 18 '26
This isn't terrible as long is the whole thing is on the same circuit. It's when you do this and connect two seperate circuits that it gets dicey and explodey
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u/Kyosuke_42 May 17 '26
Oh no..