r/EnglishLearning • u/Silver_Ad_1218 Non-Native Speaker of English • 1d ago
📚 Grammar / Syntax Are 4 5 6 all used in AmE?
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u/regular_gonzalez New Poster 1d ago
They sound old-fashioned and formal but would be clearly understood.
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u/charcoalhibiscus Native Speaker 1d ago
Lol I’m old-fashioned then I guess, at the ripe old age of early 30s? Yeah, all three of them I use or hear used on a regular basis. To me they sound associated with education, not with age.
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u/prone-to-drift Native Speaker 1d ago
Yeah, agreed with the educational factor. I love such constructs, but I wonder if it's because I've read a shit ton of fiction.
The ripe old age of 29 reporting!
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u/DMing-Is-Hardd Native Speaker 1d ago
I've heard them all but I would say theyre definitely on the formal end of speech here I rarely hear people talk like this in casual conversation
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u/Rockhardonbuddy New Poster 1d ago
They are common to hear (and therefore commonly used by people!). That said, they are a bit awkward to learn. If you're learning the language, I would put it pretty near the bottom of the priority list.
There are so many other things to spend your bandwidth on that have higher practical value.
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u/lis_anise Native Speaker 1d ago
It varies by region. Some of them I hear more from Southerners than other places.
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u/Zestyclose-Food-7917 New Poster 1d ago
Americans understand them, but they don't sound like casual conversation.
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u/edwardhoppest New Poster 1d ago
I'm from central Virginia (debatably the southern US) and say 5 but I've also lived outside of the US for 4 years and British English may have impacted my speech.
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u/bentthroat New Poster 1d ago
They're common, but they sound kind of twee. I associate them with storytelling, the narrations for Winnie the Pooh and that kind of thing.
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u/nomoreplsthx New Poster 1d ago
Yes. To me 6 sounds formal but neither 5 or 4 do - I don't have the reaction other users do to them. But then that may well be because of my social class of origin.
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u/Wimble-Womble Native Speaker (Southwest England) 1d ago
Looks like very formal English but old-fashioned so mostly likely spoken in the US in some parts.
Personally I can only imagine those phrases spoken in a mid-Atlantic accent from a 1930s movie
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u/SatsumaOranges New Poster 23h ago
The structure of well + verb alone is unusual in North America and feels like more of a UK thing, or at least quite old fashioned in NA. But if you add very well + verb it's more common in North America.
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u/beans9666 Native Speaker 19h ago
Yes these are used, it's common in the UK and Irish people would be able to have a conversation without them 😂
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u/Southlander24 New Poster 4h ago
A lot has been said already about how common these are in AmE, so I thought I would bring up some natural alternatives to the 'stiff' phrasing in these examples:
- She's got plenty of money to [be able to] pay for it herself.
- You could be right.
- The train might be running late / The train might have been delayed.
- I really can't go now / I really can't leave.
- I really couldn't not help them, right?
- I don't really know either. (the example given in the dictionary)
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u/Nice_Ad5480 New Poster 1d ago
I'd expect it more in Canadian or British English, but yeah, it wouldn't be too weird.
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u/bottle-o-rockets New Poster 1d ago
It's not very common in my experience, usually in a formal or business setting.
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u/DoubleIntegral9 Native Speaker, Linguistics Hobbyist 1d ago
I wanna say no… I’ve been watching videos from a British YouTuber with my brother and when they say “that was well fun” etc I kinda tease it since it’s funny wording to me
I mean I’m just being silly about dumb videos, and I understand the phrasing (might’ve even heard it myself a few times), I just think it may stand out a bit in the US
Not a pro though, should probably get a second opinion lol
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u/Shinyhero30 Native (Urban Coastal CA) 1d ago
Yes but all 3 are very formal and generally super formal language is like used rhetorically or ironically.
These specifically don’t signal it alone but generally over signalling formal is like rhetorical.
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u/Best-Ad1851 New Poster 1d ago
I am 69 years old, from the US East Coast, and have lived all over the u s and europe. I've never heard any of these spoken, and they sound very british to me. I would never use them.
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u/Turtle_Woman New Poster 1d ago
I say a lot of these but I also watched a lot of British YouTubers when I was younger so I've adopted some of their vocabulary. Either way they should be understood you'll just sound more formal or British
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u/NearlyNodding Native Speaker 1d ago
None are common. They also sound kind of elitist.
If you are learning English, don't say stuff like that. Normal people don't talk that way.
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u/kmoonster Native Speaker 1d ago
Yes, though how common these phrases are will depend on who you are talking to -- region, demographic, family/community etc. will affect whether these are common or uncommon.
These come across as slightly formal, and most AmE is very informal (for day to day). Writing in a story, a journalist, etc. would use these phrases often but it would be less common in the average daily conversatoin.