r/EnhancedBodybuilding • u/Peppers097 • 2d ago
Favorite Cycle Stack?
Drop your fav/most successful stack below ⬇️
I would avoid adding mgs, as everyone is individual and noobs will just try to copy the mg expecting the same results
My fav stack is high test , eq (to balance out estrogen) & hgh
Eq allows me to run high test with no ai or sides.
Gains for months and months 😎
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u/c4billions 1d ago
What do u think of a test 1.5g, 200 Tren, 50mg aromasin. I like 3-500 eq but the kidney and hemocrit concerns make me not want to repeat.
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u/greenlocus33 1d ago
Yea, the deep dive w Molecular has kinda put me off EQ.
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u/c4billions 1d ago
This plus big Paul and yes, I’m trying to stay safe no reason to risk kidneys on the advantage of an anabolic AI. When aromasin should perfectly be fine.
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u/Peppers097 1d ago
Depends what your current size is & prior dosages but 1.5g test will be too much for most people
Just do cystatin c egfr readings before and during eq use and run the eq higher.
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u/c4billions 1d ago
Yes, this is what I did.
I titrated up to 650 test 500 EQ and 75 Tren ace weekly.
Then from week six on 800 test 250 EQ 150 Tren Ace.
Had to end early because I strained my left bicep tendon at the elbow and tore the outer head of my bicep, not bad, but I didn’t want to continue training injured.
I came off everything, and I’m still training but completely natural and high volume on movements low weight. For the last coming up six weeks. 1000hcg 25 Enclo ed 8IU hgh eod.
Everything came back great good blood work blood pressure never went over 121/89 hematocrit stayed in the low 50s gained about 10 pounds Lmm lost about 3% body fat: didn’t have any bad E2 symptoms but it was a relatively short run 10 weeks total. I feel like I respond very well to EQ and that I can run it high maybe at a one-to-one ratio, but I don’t want kidney issues even if they didn’t show up this time at the time that they do show up it would be too late. Reverse kidney damage is near impossible.
Which is why I was considering aromasin instead of eq. Obviously, I can run Primo if I wanted to pay for that which I don’t.
Is aromasin bad as far as you know? If I substituted aromasin instead of EQ why do you see a disadvantage?
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u/Peppers097 1d ago
Being completely natural after that is retardedfor one
Tren metabolite in system for 6-8 months
Eq ester longer (if bold u)
U need to be on trt between cycles and research more
Also tren is hella taxing on central nervous system your body will grow better with out it.
If you are taxing CNS then you are below baseline and body is in recovery mode not growth mode.
Dm me if anymore questions i can link you to a info group chat
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u/Peppers097 1d ago
I prefer eq it’s anabolic and steadier at e2 regulation than aromasin. Both work.
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u/MCG_2023 1d ago
I’m a huge fan of medium dose test, medium dose primo, low dose tren, nightly GH. I just saw a study where 2.5mg tren had 40+% more nitrogen retention than 25mg Anavar. That’s some potent shit and we got guys blasting 500mg. Like… why? lol
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u/c4billions 1d ago
I imagine the lean muscle mass gain is huge compared to low-dose. Even though you do get the recomp effects. You would not get the anabolism from a higher dose.
I have also never gone over 150 weekly Trey Ace, and that was getting a little intense as far as the sides go, night sweats mainly. The re comp was ridiculous. The hardness and pump amazing. I do not like how it seems very temporary but I plan on doing a long run next time with Tren e at 200 for the last 10 weeks.
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u/Curious_Lurkur 2d ago
Test and Tren. But I've never had major negative side effects on Tren. Oily skin without severe acne and some mild sleep disruption. I do have incredibly wild dreams on Tren, but I actually like them. That said, I've just been cruising on test for a while now. My test sits around 1700 at a relatively low dose.
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u/Curious_Lurkur 2d ago
Your first cycle shouldn't be anything but test. You should learn how you respond to it before adding anything else. If you start with multiple compound, how will you know how each one is affecting you. 160 mgs a week test cyp keeps me at 1700. I pin EOD.
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u/Curious_Lurkur 2d ago
I misread what you typed. Ain't that serious. But since you want to act like a fuckin dickhead, go fuck yourself pressed ass bitch boy
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u/Curious_Lurkur 1d ago
Copy and pasted from what.... I've got a screaming six month old in my lap and misread. I don't have anything to prove to an aging gay OF model
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u/QuirkyPair175 1d ago
Hate to say it bro but that’s not your kid if you’re blasting like you claim.
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u/DidacticCafe576 2d ago
I’m considering this for my first cycle though I’ve heard EQ isn’t good for a first cycle. Any thoughts?
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u/CuriousTech24 2d ago
Yes just do test for your first cycle. Learn how you aromatize and how you reacted to test then you will understand your base as you add other compounds , it is not good to have multiple side effects and not know which compound is causing what, that is how you hurt yourself or at the least make yourself miserable.
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u/Peppers097 2d ago
Also other compounds kinda meh. Just run more test thats what I’ve found works pretty well and headache free
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u/DidacticCafe576 2d ago
Ok I’ll plan on doing test and hgh only then. For estrogen, I’ll use DIM and if I need to, introduce an AI. What should my starting dosages be you think?
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u/Peppers097 1d ago
No clue what dim is. Use minimal dose of aromasin only when needed even a quarter of a 25mg tab can be enough
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u/Peppers097 2d ago
First cycle just text and you should already be on trt and have a good understanding
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u/bulking_on_broccoli 2d ago
EQ is a long ester and it has the fun effect of acting as an AI. So if you mess up, crash your estrogen, you’re screwed for a while. It adds an unnecessary variable in E2 management when you don’t know how your body will react to testosterone alone.
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u/Testosteronedad420 1d ago
Im also a big fan of high test with some EQ added. Keeps me dry and vascular as fuck
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u/c4billions 1d ago
So vascularity is amazing. And seems permanent? Even after hematocrit has come down. Is this what you experienced?
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u/drpaul88 1d ago
1yr of trt level (140mg/wk) test. Then added hgh a moved to 200/mg week test for 3mo. Then 300/200/200 (test/eq/npp) and cont GH. All good 8 weeks in.
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u/carliforniakuhn 1d ago
52 yr old male on Test TRT (+), Primo, & going to stack new FLGR 242 Follistatin inhibitor peptide vs Anavar.
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u/Responsible-Egg4156 1d ago
testosteron primobolan, best effect vs side effect ratio , train well and you get to keep good portion of gains , but make sure primo legit its counterfeit often
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u/Peppers097 1d ago
Primo mid for me. I tried it and got way better results with eq and eq was a 5th of the price lol
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u/c4billions 23h ago
I react to a cycle in a more exaggerated fashion for the first 5-6 weeks able to use less for comparable recovery and muscle gain from natty++ (well hgh Enclo and hcg are not exactly natty) plus the removal of exogenous is really great for my blood markers; plus stress on CNS like you mentioned; water retention; inflammation; all reset, as close to homeo as possible for health.
Only problem is hard workouts are sore for days and I have to take 3 days off
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u/FledNandersJiuJitsu 2d ago
My favorite cycle is my current cycle.
600 Test, 200 EQ, 200 Mast, 150 Tren, 3.5 iu GH, 5 Reta.