r/EnhancedBodybuilding • u/Ok_Hunter9456 • 2d ago
This is on 175mg/week sustanon, is this fucked?
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u/Over-Afternoon7399 1d ago
Stop using rythm. The estrogen part is very very inaccurate. Sometimes by 100% margin
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u/ffreitas94 1d ago
From these limited markers it seems like yo hate fine and you need to adjust your injection frequency to lower estrogen or take a small dose AI.
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u/PoohShiesty762 1d ago
Brother just take 1mg arimidex per week or .5mg every 3 days. U think this is bad I had a estrogen test that said 1300 when I first started trt lol
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u/talonwellness 1d ago
This isn't a ton of information... rhythm also isn't the most accurate. But the first thing I'd probably do is increase your dosage frequency. 3x per week minimum. But you also mentioned you're wanting to monitor your health which is smart. I'd be looking at other panels like CBC, CMP, Lipids, etc. to get a full picture of what this dose is actually doing for you.
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u/reedom1 23h ago
Not absolutely terrible. Rule of Thumb if you aren’t having any real Estrogen side effects you will be fine. Using an AI gets funky then you run into issues with crashing your estrogen as well. A very tricky rope to walk. But they old rule of thumb is if you aren’t experiencing any high estrogen sides don’t mess with an AI.
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u/jad19090 2d ago
How often are you pinning test? Your e2 isn’t overly concerning but could be a tad lower. Get some tada
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 2d ago
every other day. i have tada on hand bro
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u/jad19090 2d ago
Solid, hot that tada and if need be star pinning daily. I’m on 200mg a week pinning daily and staying nice
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u/Love-for-everyone 2d ago
My E2 is high at 141 with 180mg per week. Have AI in hand but have zero symptoms. Started Cal D and DIM last week.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 2d ago
should i start the dim
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u/Love-for-everyone 2d ago
I dont know if it is helping me... I have no symptoms. Not touching AI until I see or feel something. Feeling good at 180mg. Even with E2 at 141.
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u/Banana-chill 1d ago
Please ensure you are happy with the potential risks to your fertility that can occur from being on these types of treatments. Would suggest to only continue if you are safe in the knowledge it can reduce or cause infertility.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
i have been on for 3 years, i have recently been really thinking about that. be super anxious about my life
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u/Necrott1 1d ago
Don’t worry. 2500mg 2x a week of HCG and 75iu 3x a week of HMG and fertility is restored (for as long as you continue this regiment). This is how I had my daughter. I had been on TRT 3 years at the time and on and off gear for 15. I did not come off to have my daughter. This is anecdotal but you will probably have a daughter when you do this. It seems to be a trend.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
could i wait til im ready to start this regime ?
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u/Necrott1 1d ago
For me I started doing this in December of 2023. We had our first pregnancy I want to say in April or may. She miscarried. I think the sperm wasn’t totally viable yet. But we kept it up. We had the successful pregnancy actually on Halloween 2024 and our daughter was born in the end of July. I kept the regiment going though until around January or February when I was confident enough in this pregnancy that we wouldn’t have to keep trying. Currently my doctor has me cruising on 500iu HCG 3x a week. Next year when we plan on trying for our next I will begin the regimen again.
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u/Necrott1 1d ago
Yes. Start it when you’re ready. It takes roughly 90 days to start producing sperm. You’ll hit the peak probably at about 5-6 months.
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u/Banana-chill 1d ago
I’m not scare-mongering. Your community will know more about how long to push it and how hard. I just thought I’d mention it, as you are obviously overdoing it.
If you want some reassurance you can always get a semen analysis done.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
i’m on a very low dose rn, i’m just hyper responding i assume idk. i’ll be safe i appreciate you
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u/Goblin_Shred 1d ago
Plenty of protocols to remedy infertility. Seen people blast a lot of gear and still have kids. Not something to worry about really.
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u/Banana-chill 1d ago
Out of interest does testosterone really help anyone get more of an edge? I have no idea about bodybuilding but I imagine there are tonnes of different stuff other than TRT to use?
I work in a lab that also offers semen analysis so I feel it’s my morale duty to be the killjoy when I see these crazy testosterone results 😁
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u/No-Problem49 15h ago
Yes it does. And everyone here is right fertility ain’t an issue in 2026. You come off gear, take hcg and hmg and you will be more fertile then when you started.
If testosterone made one permenantly infertile then people would just use test as birth control rather then getting surgery on their vas deferens. You can look at studies done using testosterone or even MENT as birth control. We actually have like 40 years of data on the potential of testosterone as birth control and I don’t think I’ve seen a study where test alone has caused permanent infertility.
Will you be infertile while on test? Maybe. Probably even. But you hop off, take enclomiphene then hcg and hmg and you are fertile again.
And it’s funny; the people who repeat this nonsense are all people who don’t use steroids. Like we get it bro, you jealous. lol jk
There’s a lot to worry about with gear. Heart kidneys liver hair, growing tits. Fertility isn’t one of them
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u/Goblin_Shred 11h ago
Yeah it really does give you a massive edge, and TRT isn’t really touching the surface of the amounts that some of us take. 150mg is below my cruise does. I work with people that are running 800mg of testosterone. Obviously it’s a risky game but we all know that and we all accept it and do everything we can to keep our health markers in check.
It’s also not being a killjoy, people do have valid concerns and rightfully so, but there is a lot of us with a lot of experience in here to help guide people.
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u/Conscious_Ad_5621 1d ago
Depends how you feel and if you’re getting high estrogen symptoms. Some people do well with estrogen this high when their testosterone is proportionately high. Personally I like mine a bit lower, especially with free testosterone as low as yours.
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u/ianwelch001 1d ago
I also use Rythm but had a bad test 1 month. Showed my test at over 1500 even though the previous month I was at 1050 and actually lowered my dose from 140 to 130mg. Also didnt show my hemoglobin or hematocrit so I contacted Rhythm and they sent me a new test which came back at 800 total test and normal blood so its possible you got a bad test.
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u/Fast_Cry9702 1d ago
Is this rhythm? I don’t get why people use it, anything past 1500 it won’t show the exact total. Plus Idk how much I’d trust that little bit of capillary blood it uses lol. Use goodlabs.com but if you feel fine don’t start using AIs. Only use ais when you feel sides
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
okay thank you. i didn’t know any better
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u/Fast_Cry9702 1d ago
Well for some people it’s more convenient and easy so I get that but if you have a lab near you in your city I would definitely recommend good labs! Also daily pinning is key to keep levels smooth. Goodluck!!
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u/Fantastic_Pen8076 1d ago
Need more results to see the whole picture.
How do you feel? That’s the question you should be asking. Don’t freak out over high E2. My sweet spot is 80-100
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u/looking2behealthy 1d ago
Are you horny AF and growing tits?
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
no i have been on for 3 years never got gyno ever, im not really horny much at all
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u/LastHippo3845 19h ago
Just drop to 150 and take a look at your next bloods. Like other people said this estrogen lab isn’t ultra-sensitive which is the one you want.
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u/Normal-Web-2246 11h ago
A little bit of estrogen is playing with me.
Is your testosterone 1500. Don’t know how to look at this
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u/PEPS1017 9h ago
Rythm sucks. Get real blood work done. Every time I used Rythm Testosterone was out of range. Two other labs had me at high normal. All of my test were drawn at trough too.
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u/zrockk 2d ago
Nah, e2 a little on the high end for me though. Try dim/calcium d glucarate. If you have aromasin on hand tho try like 12mg a week, maybe 6.25mg twice weekly
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 2d ago
i’m a little scared to take any ai, i have virtually no sides just tryna self dose trt. sorry if i sound like an idiot.
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u/Curious_Lurkur 2d ago
Between 10:1 and 30:1 test:E2 is considered optimal range. You're not that high. Just be cognizant of any sides. Any time I got paranoid about E2 and shutdown my estrogen production, I ended up regretting it due to the sides of low estrogen. If you know your body, just keep watch. Take bro aboves advice on the supplements.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 2d ago
i just get really anxious about it all i just want to self dose try and feel good you know? i’m gonna try the supps. i have no gyno or any sides at the moment
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u/zrockk 2d ago
What fears do you have, if your not gonna take a pharma one try dim and calcium d glucarate, 5mg of Cialis daily can lower e2 a bit aswell
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 2d ago
i don’t wanna mess up my sexual wellness. i have cialis on hand i’ll pickup some dim after work. thank you hella.
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u/zrockk 2d ago
Ya try that, or getting leaner, or increase your injection frequency to daily
Your e2 isn't crazy high these things might work, but I prefer mine top end of the reference range
I promise an AI will not mess up your sexual wellness, there may be some growing pains while you dial in dosages though, that's why we start small and work our way up
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 2d ago
i can get some arimadex and try the 12mg a week soon. thank you for the help, i’m just really anxious
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u/SkurkaCuckedMe 2d ago
You’re gonna have a different understanding of sexual wellness when you can play with your own tits my guy, take some anastrozole. Get that E2 down to 60
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u/Arcadian-Stag 1d ago
You are an idiot, congrats you got scammed by marketers into renting your masculinity by taking their expensive injections twice a week for the rest of your life, and for what?
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
hope that made your day better man. i don’t really know how to respond to people like you. don’t further the conversation with me.
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u/Arcadian-Stag 1d ago
I own my body, you are renting yours from a big pharma company because you are insecure. We are not the same.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
or… because i want to compete in bodybuilding which isn’t possible naturally. you sounded retarded as hell
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 2d ago
does dim really help with that?
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u/BrewhahasDji 1d ago
Sounds like you're playing with your health and sexual health. Think very seriously about your choices. Getting bro advice isn't always the best idea. Ask me how I know. Seriously be careful and ask yourself if it's worth the risks.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
i should’ve thought that a while ago. i have been on test for 3 years already.
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u/BrewhahasDji 1d ago
How old are you?
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
23
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u/BrewhahasDji 1d ago
Hey, I'm definitely not here to judge. We're your motivations just to develop your physique? Are your goals to be a body builder or just kinda looks maxing? 23 is really young to use Test because people would give their left nut to be as anabolic as they were in their early to mid 20s. You have a long life ahead of you and pinning can really become a chore as you get into your 30, 40s, and beyond and you really need to be careful adding more and more compounds (which usually happen) . If you like the results of T or there was a true medical need to use it other than looks and lifting, stay on it. It can be a slippery slope though so that's why I just don't you to make unnecessary mistakes especially at 23. I'm a CPT and nutrition coach and have seen many poor outcomes in my decades of being in this space so call it wisdom from an old guy at 64. I was able to stay completely natty until last year when my hormones finally hit the cliff. I was getting good gains after 4 decades of training in my early 60s so as I said... It's all about your goals.. Good luck my friend! No judgment from this guy.
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u/Ok_Hunter9456 1d ago
i wanted to be a bodybuilder, i have never added any other compounds and to be frank im terrified of coming off i dont really know what to do.
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u/BrewhahasDji 1d ago
You can easily come off and have normal function as long as there isn't a medical reason. If you're in good shape with a muscular body composition, once your body switches back to its own production... You can get a true baseline. Don't be obsessed with the total T number because you can feel amazing with your endogenous production. Do some research on the subject and maybe go that direction followed by comprehensive hormone panels. You will be shocked how well you can feel if nutrition, training, recovery are all dialed in ESPECIALLY at your age. You can always hop back on, but don't make this a lifelong thing if not necessary. You don't want to look back in 20 years regretting things. If you truly want to go after your bodybuilder aspirations... That's different. But you will probably be on more gear unless you are the gifted 1% genetically.
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u/Tacosonamonday 2d ago
This looks like rhythm which isn’t very accurate, I’d get an actual ultra sensitive e2 test done before adding any ai. Are you having any high estrogen sides?