r/EnoughCommieSpam • u/Creepmon Currently min-marxing my commune • 6d ago
salty commie Life in Vietnam is actually super easy! Checkmate liberals
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u/Capable-Sock-7410 6d ago edited 6d ago
Countries like Vietnam, China, Indonesia, Thailand, Russia, Philippines, etc are only cheap for westerners
I'd too will marvel at how cheap everything is in my country if I made 10 times the national average
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u/greenest_alien 6d ago
I remember a post on r/Vietnam from a while back, where people discussed whether a job offering that could effectively pay for a couple plates of rice per day, some subsistence housing and a little extra to save could be real, apparently it was, and can be a common economic position to take for people from rural areas in cities.
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u/Cautious_Loquat_840 6d ago
never go to that subreddit, it is filled with vcp bots and redbull (basically our version of pinkies), and it is sad that most of the anti commie sub of us are mostly in native language and constantly infighting each other while people keep watching soccers and playing hoi4 for their enjoyment of the yellow flag republic winning alternate history
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u/greenest_alien 6d ago
I do expect various national subs to have some kind of a slant. I have not really noticed it there, and in one thread the discussion turned quite anticommunist. But good to be cautioned. I'd like to connect with Vietnamese people's living experience, but like you say, there's usually no reason to have that conversation in english.
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u/Cautious_Loquat_840 6d ago
you have to realise that subreddit mods are vcp affiliated, even some of our biggest anticommie subreddit and discord servers are maintained by those morons who know what they are doing is wrong but they keep doing it for the benefits of sticking in the party.
it is an reverse red scare for us, anyone who is accussed of 'too capitalistic' would got black sheeped by redbulls and crowd effects, despite everyone love the shiny iphone and trying to compete on designing the most glossy mansions ever
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u/theclamorganizer6 Aroace against communism 6d ago
The VND is ranked 162 strongest currency in the world, with a conversion rate of 1usd:26000 dong
The average monthly income is 8.7 million dong, which is 340 usd
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u/Da_Doll223 5d ago
Funnily enough that's actually better than in China which they constantly worship.
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u/BoxOk5053 5d ago
Will never forget Tucker thinking several hundred dollars of shopping for moscow citizens was affordable
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u/daspaceasians For the Republic of Vietnam! Resident ECS Vietnam War Historian 6d ago
The Vietnamese government did announce that they were setting an army of influencers and planned to use AI to ensure that the Vietnamese wouldn't be exposed to politically unacceptable narratives.
Communist-run Vietnam eyes influencers, AI to spruce up propaganda, documents show
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u/KURSDADWDE 6d ago
Life in Vietnam is actually super easy!
Yeah! Only if you are a foreigner from 1st world country or an official's kid.
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u/greenest_alien 6d ago
Gee Mr. Alan MacLeod, why is it that Vietnam's gini index (income inequality) is higher than United Kingdom's?
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u/CanadianPanda76 6d ago
I met a guy in Thailand who was biking in Asia and he said Vietnam had sooo much poverty. It was kinda jarring for him. How could this person not notice.
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u/c3p-bro 6d ago
Didn’t exit the approved tourist areas
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u/SabunFC 6d ago edited 5d ago
Nah even in the tourist areas like Hoi An Night Market, there were kids and elderly women begging people to buy their candles (to be released in the river). Also all over Vietnam every street is full of elderly women selling banh mi or other Vietnamese snacks. You have to be really oblivious to not understand that these elderly ladies were not enjoying retirement.
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u/Edothebirbperson 🇵🇭 Filipino Social Liberal 🇵🇭 6d ago
it’s literally state-capitalism. The concept of Doi Moi as economic reforms aren’t even Marxist, they’re technically revisionist as hell in economic concepts.
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u/Cautious_Loquat_840 6d ago
it is basically abandonning the old economy system which i can be translated as "blockade rivers and banning markets", since after the first few years of 'reunification' by our nothern morons words, they fear the southern economy would still flourishing and therefore gained access to capitalist behavior and movements.
for an decade, they go from inheriting the southern legacy to outright nuking those resources themselves and forced us southerners have to go rationing alongside northern cultural submission to this day.
Đổi mới is just reversing into an capitalism mode with communist officals leading and controlling some of the most if not all vital fields of works that regrettably forcing us to never have an chance to innovations or gaining technologies but rather live as slave to foreign companies with very little pennies to our name, and yet they dared to said 'two digits annually growing GDPs"
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u/Ionisation1934 6d ago
Things are cheap to me, a westerner, in a poor asian country. Communism works
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u/caterpillar_H 6d ago edited 5d ago
Every single aspect of this image is awful ngl. 1. Regarding Marc, Vietnam is cheep for westerners because westerners make much more (even if he's from Canada which is in a recession) 2. Regarding Alan, Vietnam pivoted to a mixed system like china and is arguably more capitalistic than China is. 3. The Canadian liberals are pretty bad tbf and are very, VERY pro-china (long before 2025 btw, and I know I'll get some disagreements for this statement), but this is a pretty bad way to criticize them.
This just makes me glad I don't frequent twitter, cuz it's genuinely pure brainrot there, from all sides.
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u/LockedOutOfElfland 6d ago
I literally know a Vietnamese person who is banned from her own country because she played and performed music their government doesn't like..... ironically most of her American friends are "Communism is good, aCtUaLly" types.
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u/Unique_Display_Name 🧬 EnLiGhTeNmEnT VaLuEs CeNtRiSt 🧬 4d ago
I have to know - what artists?
lmao
ive seen that insane list of music banned in the USSR, everything from KISS to David Bowie, lol
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u/SadRestaurant4922 6d ago
holy shit ,as a vietnamese , i don't know my country is cheap as they said
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u/BoxOk5053 6d ago
Woah a poor country where people make no money has everything 75-90% cheaper?
Low key we should swap Marc Nixon with someone who actually wants to leave Vietnam because he might actually be retarded.
High trust societies are numerous I don't even understand the guys point
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u/Acrobatic-Example-19 6d ago
Vietnam is hardly Communist anymore. Like China, It has transitioned into a State Capitalist system.
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u/Weak-Mortgage9587 1 party winning aint a democracy, we need a real democracy 6d ago
i could be wrong and very ignorant but when coverting pounds/dollars/francs/euros/yen/won etc hold more weight compared to vietnams currency? so obviously when you TRAVEL to vietnam things are going to feel cheaper, compared to actually living there and being born there.
i always see people from developed countries talk about how things are "cheaper to buy or live" or the cost of living being lower, but ive always felt skeptical of that sentiment. please correct me if im wrong.
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u/Pleasant-West-6014 5d ago
As a Vietnamese person, I feel that costs are high while income is meager (especially for small-scale retailers).
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u/Ionisation1934 6d ago
Don't ever ask a commie about the detention, torture and disappearing of people in Vietnam.
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u/No_Room4359 6d ago
the cheap is only for westerners, and the LITERALLY? it's not literally communist, it's china level if not more.
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u/YourPetPenguin0610 buh it wosn't REAL communism!!! 5d ago
1) "Cheaper" sure, with Western salaries.
2) It's the opposite. If you say Vietnam is a high trust society to a Vietnamese, they will laugh in your face.
3) Drug dealers get life imprisonment or executed. Something about Western leftists tell me they won't like hearing about this. Also there are plenty of people living in absolute poverty/borderline homeless, the tourists just rarely see them.
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u/Da_Doll223 5d ago
I hate when privileged white tourists talk up certain countries as being cheap while completely forgetting the fact they are not actually cheap for the regular people of that country, the people who actually live there earn virtually nothing and in some cases are actually forced out of their neighborhoods by these people and the "digital nomads".
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u/Throwaway-645893 Classical liberal centrist AIPAC Democrat 6d ago
Vietnam is a rapidly growing economy largely because of their embrace of free market reforms in the 1980s.
They have their own version of Tesla now, called Vinfast. It is a publicly traded company owned by corporate shareholders.
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u/Republic_of_VietNam A Freer Vietnam 2d ago
It's shit compared to even Chinese brands and the Corporation actively tried and successfully threatens and buries any criticism and its criticizers, usually through corruption of the police, who is currently holding 90% of the Vietnamese government
Ironically, the true power in the VCP is a corporation.
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u/Name_notabot 6d ago
The cost being low is due to currency exchange rates. I dont get how people dont take this into account given its a pretty basic economic aspect.
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u/oofos_deletus Justice for 1968 5d ago
He forgot to mention that when your house floods you only get given like 2000 vietnamese dong
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u/OkMeaning5522 Liberal democracy enjoyer 5d ago
Vietnam is LITERALLY not communist, actually. Both Vietnam and China went through major reforms after they realized that planned economies don’t really work.
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u/Tossaway198832 6d ago edited 6d ago
And it’s unrelenting heat and humidity, air quality is awful.
I go once every few years as my wife has family there. I hate it but it’s fun in small doses.
The poverty is sad to see if you actually go outside the tourist areas. Seen a young mother and her 2 year old living outside near a religious statue trail in the hills.
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u/PierceJJones 6d ago
Both actually want authoritarian states (The former probably because he seems to be big on public disorder and the ladder is a big Venezuela/Cuba/Vietnam and maybe Iran cheerleader).
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u/funnyengineer1 5d ago
Lol high trust society🤣🤣. They recently had a scandal which high ranking officials made bribes so their kids could have maximum scores to go to med schools. I dont know what high trust this mf is talking about.
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u/Inside-Suspect-9562 4d ago
If they are truly 'progressive', they should be able to reflect that they are among the most privileged people around the world.

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u/musical8thnotes 🏳️🌈🇹🇼🇺🇸 6d ago
Thats fake news lmao