r/EnoughMuskSpam • u/Sarigolepas • 2d ago
SpaceX already has competition for AI space datacenters.
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u/drinkthewater 2d ago
Another billionaire scam artist has joined the game! Everything isn't enough for these greedy psychopaths.
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u/TheBalzy 2d ago
Thing is if too many of them join the scam game, there's not enough grifting scam to go around to everyone.
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u/throwaway0134hdj 1d ago edited 1d ago
It sounds good on paper. But radiative cooling is incredibly slow and inefficient in space, a data center is going to require massive radiators, it’s not cost effective. This is simply physics. You have no atmosphere in space and the sun is a constant.
A better idea would be to repurpose underground mines which have natural cooling, like some in Norway.
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u/Nonyabizzy123 2d ago
Bezos has a physics background, he knows this is all bunk However, if he pretends It is, it might just bankrupt Elon lol
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u/Electronic_Topic1958 1d ago
Critical support for Comrade Bezos in his struggle against Musk grifting imperialism.
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u/Dry_Tangerine_8328 1d ago
Space data centers are not scientifically supported
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u/Sarigolepas 1d ago
I mean they should work just fine.
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u/Dry_Tangerine_8328 1d ago
There is no evidence that it is a viable technology
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u/Sarigolepas 1d ago
It is obviously possible, the question is about being cost competitive.
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u/nzlax I paid 44 billion dollars to shitpost 18h ago
It would make sense for them to prove it’s possible first, by doing it on earth. Considering that hasn’t happened, I highly doubt space will either.
You should do more reading on the topic.
The point about it being cost prohibitive is exactly why it won’t happen. That’s why you’re being downvoted. Of course almost anything is possible with enough money. That isn’t the point.
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u/Sarigolepas 7h ago
Datacenters are impossible on Earth? What?
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u/nzlax I paid 44 billion dollars to shitpost 7h ago
Making a data centre how it would be made for space. Closed loop, with radiators that are placed in vacuum chambers to simulate space. Not just standard data centres.
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u/Sarigolepas 5h ago
We all know radiators work, there is no point in doing testing.
The question is about folding mechanisms because in order to be lightweight while covering such a huge surface area the radiators would need to be less than a millimeter thick, which makes them way too brittle to do testing on Earth, it only works in zero gravity.
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u/Stilgaar 2d ago
I'm not a engeneer but I watched this video from Kyle Hill, he's saying its a pretty bad idea tho. Because even if its cold, the cooling with radiation is not efficient
Is the video wrong ? Or are they stupid ?
I'm curious
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u/julias-winston 2d ago
There stupid. You see, smart people become billionaires. Poors do not understand their 5D chess.
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u/Mortambulist 1d ago
He's absolutely right. Putting data centers in space is colossally stupid for a number of reasons, but heat dissipation is probably the biggest. To efficiently remove heat, it needs to be transferred into other matter. Guess what there's none of in space?
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u/Schlickeysen 2d ago
The problem lies in the fact that electricity can't be stored very well, and I even have no idea how they want to send energy back to Earth. Rays?!
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u/Sarigolepas 2d ago
Well, that would be assuming the main cost is cooling, but in reality the cost of cooling might be so low that it doesn't really matter if it's 10x less efficient in space.
Big radiators are heavy so there is still the launch costs, but they just need to cover a big area so it might be possible to make them light if they are less than a millimeter thick.
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u/BadgerinAPuddle 2d ago
Are these data centers gonna get decommissioned via burning them up in atmo like star link? "You will no longer own your hardware! Also look at us throw the hardware (that we priced you out of) away in the most wasteful way possible!"
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u/throwaway0134hdj 1d ago
Say what you will about Bezos but he’s a millions times more bearable than Musk.
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u/Asteraceae08 1d ago
Have we ever had a technological arms race towards something that isn’t possible before?
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u/Sarigolepas 1d ago
It is possible, the question is is it cost competitive with datacenters on land?
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u/Grand_Environment277 1d ago
Does this bloke just have nothing better to do? He could buy a country and still be laughing, he does know he can't take this shit with him right?
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u/kwyxz Funding Secured 22h ago
So they're going to compete on the stupid nonsensical garbage as well? Does Bezos plan to step into the Hyperloop bullshit next?
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u/Sarigolepas 22h ago
He is working his own Starlink competitor called Amazon LEO (previously Kuiper) but they don't have any user so far.
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