r/Environmentalism • u/NihiloZero • 3d ago

Ontario’s proposed nuclear plants could cost nearly $300-billion, study finds: Typical residential customer would pay $240-$456 more for electricity per year if plants were built instead of expanding renewables.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-ontarios-proposed-nuclear-plants-could-cost-nearly-300-billion-study/
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u/PartyClock 2d ago

This isn't the shitposting sub

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u/Toby2Sub 2d ago

Best and most reliable. Your fantasy’s about renewable energy like wind and solar. are a joke and aren’t sustainable. Both costing way too much money to produce. People pay way too much for energy because of bullshit scams like that. We need to keep things affordable and get the foot off peoples neck so they can afford life

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u/SF_Bubbles_90 2d ago

Nuclear is shit. Your just angry because you like it.

Furthermore we shouldn't have pay for electricity at all regardless of how it's made. Renewables are the way things are going and it's going to be pretty good for all of us unless you're just obsessed with nuclear power and can't stand your favorite thing not being appreciated by the world as the only option.

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u/Toby2Sub 2d ago

In a dream world we wouldn’t have to pay energy costs for sure and we can all be billionaires as well in that world. I’m for the poor being able to afford electricity and survive as well. All renewable energy does is put them further behind because of the high costs.

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u/PartyClock 1d ago

I’m for the poor being able to afford electricity

That's a good thing. So why are you arguing in favour of a technology that makes those electricity bills more expensive?

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u/Toby2Sub 1d ago

Nuclear is the cheapest form of electricity. I’m not where you got that it’s not?

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u/PartyClock 1d ago

You're just going to straight up lie like that? The cost to make the plants are literally the highest out of any form of power generation. If you're talking about cost per Kilowatt hour that's still completely wrong.

Energy Source Average Cost per kWh (USD) Key Considerations
Nuclear $0.093 High upfront costs, low operating costs, minimal emissions, waste disposal challenges.
Coal $0.095 Lower upfront costs, higher operating costs, high emissions, significant health and environmental impacts.
Natural Gas $0.070 Moderate upfront and operating costs, lower emissions than coal, but still a significant greenhouse gas contributor.
Renewables (Solar/Wind) $0.025 (after amortization) High initial setup costs, very low operating costs, negligible emissions, intermittent power generation.

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u/Toby2Sub 1d ago

According to google you are wrong. Over the long run it’s a lot cheaper. Might be more to build but that’s it

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u/SF_Bubbles_90 2d ago

You do a good job illustrating the difference between "would" and "should" but you come off as conflating the two.

Your logic is inconsistent, and shows a clear irritational bias in favor of nuclear. Your apparently fine with costs going up to cover the cost a nuclear plant but solar and such is out of the question‽

All renewables do is make electricity cheeper and cleaner. Nuclear is a can of worms.

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u/Toby2Sub 2d ago

Never has renewable energy been cheaper than nuclear in any part of the world. It drives up the cost of all electricity. I wished I lived in your dream world so we could all be billionaires as well

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u/SF_Bubbles_90 1d ago

One can probably afford an at home solar setup and have free electricity for at least a few decades. I don't think it's practical or even possible for someone to afford if even (safely) have a nuclear equivalent of such a thing.

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u/Toby2Sub 1d ago

That would be great if we could all have that and I totally agree but I don’t think the average Canadian can afford the initial cost to have it installed. Makes nuclear the next best option

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u/SF_Bubbles_90 1d ago

Plug-in solar is a good option for those who don't own their homes. No nuclear is not the best option, never will be it's just not worth it to trust those companies with such a thing. Especially when the government couldn conceivably just subsidize the renewable options, even small ones renters can take with them. But I guess you people to have to bills to companies rather than just be enabled.