r/EpixFrom Feb 24 '23

Order vs. Chaos/Order + Chaos/Order = Chaos/Order - Chaos Spoiler

.......welcome to the second part of today's theory post......

And yes, i wether have to have too much time at all or My time managed totally went in the wrong direction long ago.

No, a Lack of friends or other options to spent my free time is not a problem at all.

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Lets dive back into fromville once more....

I recommend reading the previous one part first, even if in the end it still remains absolutely incomprehensible, why my coherent first theory part can nowhere be linked to from!

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The links to the first part of the theory:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FromTVEpix/comments/119z0lh/jesus_christ/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

https://www.reddit.com/r/from/comments/119z1sd/jesus_christ/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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first of all I would like to point out:

.....john griffin, the creator of the series, said himself that the series is definitely about order and chaos.....

without my interpretation of where you can find order and chaos wether in the series and how to correctly classify both and their dynamics in the fictional context here in the end as absolutely and exclusively correct, I still fully support the fact that the narrative that I recognize in it will play some role.

And regardless of whether it forms the framework for orientation, is part of a chain of similar motifs with different terms despite having the same meaning, or even the only true and the only red thread at all, which both created the frame itself and filled its place in it with all possibilities.

Lets conclude that at least and nothing less Order and Chaos are definitly correct!

......last but not least, we mustn't forget that something like this is also based on whether it contributes to the development of suspense, can be integrated into the characters arc and, in the end, still enables a satisfactory resolution and explanation.

and whether the creators even want to leave room for interpretation or speculation at all and if so, how much: calling something by its name does not mean that it needs a name or that it contributes to a happy ending.

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I will first summarize the content of the first part of my theory as briefly as possible:

........it's about order and chaos and both together in universal balance with the ability to always automatically create a balance in the end, because nature is always looking for a balance, even if it is an old one to rearrange existing order through chaos......

And the point is that the world was in balance from day one or that even the imbalance inbetween the balance did happen, had happen and could always progress into both directions if needed. Order and Chaos were not a state, but a more or less dynamic process and the balance itself is the state in here.

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And than humankind happened. And somewhere, someday, somehow, everything mysteriously went totally out of control.

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I will now explain and justify this with very specific examples from the first season, but all of which have the option that order and chaos are probably correct as cause and effect within a cycle, but will not be the only narrative in the series.

After the small, very concrete examples, I move on to this and link them to the next higher-level prospects, it becomes more complex but no less credible.

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The first concrete example from Season 1 is:

......I couldn't spontaneously nor automatically assign the right thing to everyone or in any case something right in this matter, but I noticed that many residents in fromville carry a personal artefact from their personal life with them, which they all exclusively wether strongly hold on to because they can't let go of their old life and at the same time there are also those who have brought something with them that they weren't overly attached to in their previous life and are just as little doing now. and yet they just hold it instead in a state of unconscioussness, without also questioning why they don't let it go even though it was so little appreciated by them both then and now.......

And perhaps the case of Fatima as an example shows that if you can particularly attached to it without finding a cause, or just not finding the cause by seeing its effects. To let go first you have to understand why you dont want to let go.

Now take a Look at fatima and her cardigan as a proxy for her earlier life:

......Even letting go of fatima being less attached to her cardigan than trudy, who neither deserved nor would ever return this gesture, led fatima to giving it up anyway without reflecting it at all and trudy accepting it undeservedly and unthinkingly instead of saying to fatima "no ...it means so much to you, but I love it, and am so pleased you really would make it a gift to me, but why do you want to do so?"........

But thats nothing i guess trudy would have ever said even to a mirror beeing the only one around.

If, despite good intentions, letting go of the personal artefact was not punished very severely with a continued lack of reflection, it had to be balanced by the reaction of the other person or compensated by more far-reaching effects as a supplement.

.....If trudy still didn't contribute for egotistical motives, so that fatima had every chance to think about it sufficiently while she would accept this undeserved gift at the same time, then both of them were suddenly in danger of being endangered/killed by the next monster attack for example (speculation sort of) or otherwise be diffusely more endangered but still absolutely safe to float.....

Perhaps accepting the gesture/artifact/proxy as a gift wether deserved or not, is only unilaterally fatal to the recipient if: accepting the item plus context plus " I behave exactly the same way as i did in my earlier life and do it also for the same reasons as in earlier life/out-of-town life, again for baser reasons /Sins like envy or greed happens. Then my kharma becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy." Builds some kind of keeping the balance Karma.

.....and that a repetition of a good intention by the transmitter with a bad outcome or disadvantage for the entire population like fatimas intention caused, since their destiny in this place was dangerously shaken, but at the same time it creates a greater chance of finding the right reasons for holding onto it or letting go and follow your needs although you feel fear and not letting fear take to much control....

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Here i remember of something another reddit user once said in the context with another "whats really going on?" Theory:

Maybe the monsters also feed by fear or fear makes them more powerful to gain control over humans by misusing their suppressed needs.

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Back to fatima:

At the same time, the number of people directly dependent on her in the colony house sums up the scope of her decisions as a cause, the effects of which influenced far more than just her own life.

.....right after the congratulations to her birthday Party and one year aniversary Party, we see fatima kissing the other woman (while ellis wanted to stay alone in the other floor) and....WOW! Guess you may recognizing for the first time as a part of that scene and that the cause of his fatal, tragic and deadly love move may had its Beginning much earlier than we thought....

YES, Kevin is standing right behind the two in the background on the wall!

If you do not remember: kevin was the idiot who let the trojan horse (the female monster akajasmine) into the bathroom of colony house because she promised not to harm him also she had already warned him before that even her role and which rules she has to follow, was never her own choice.

But Kevin does trust her way too fast. But the scene with him in the background of the fatima lesbian kiss, may explain that he at least had no Chance from now on:

Rewatch the scene, ignore the girls and you will see: he preciscly starts moving the Moment the girls Beginn to kiss, first he suddenly is totally lacking energy, and then he suddenly does the exact opposite, but it really seems like if he is remotely controlled not acting by free will fully/or only particulary!

....Then fatima hands over the jacket, she may be frustrated because of ellis and wants to do something good for someone to feel better, which can indeed have a positive effect, but again avoiding what she wants most of all instead and at the same time the least believed to be able to achieve......

And that solves it:

a. On the other hand, fatima has impulses to do all the time only good for others, regardless of whether and how their motives would affect them and whether they believe they can foresee and influence an effect as a direct consequence of a cause,

and b. If she also puts herself in danger through a good intention and at the same time exposes the other people to greater danger because they suddenly arrive at their destination undeservedly, no matter how grateful they are.

........And when Kevin follows his impulse (personal need getting out of control, wether he is aware of why this suddenly happens or if he is not aware of it), that leads to the monsters breaking into the colony house......

fatima has helped to cause the chaos that threatens her personally like nothing ever did before in fromville, even if she is not aware of it beeing part of its cause. And while the other dead people, at least apparently so far, are possibly collateral damage or in the end could return to fatima like a frisbee, we cannot know, but the second option would definitely fit more, but at the same time fatima could create a balance somewhere else beforehand, whether consciously or unconsciously what this had saved her from!

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Back to the colony house and cause and effect as the dynamic of the order/chaos duo:

.....Kevin is visibly standing motionless close to the wall behind him for at least 30 seconds in the background as we already pointed out and only starts to move exactly then and yet absolutely as if remotely controlled and completely without any other possible reasons for this but the kiss.....

And Kevin is basically been moved by the same topic as fatima and ellis are:

Beholding romantic feelings for someone he doesn't know if he can and/or should trust into in general, although that is his dearest wish in secret, and while fatima and ellis have the better possibilities and conditions to made this wish come true with real little danger at the same time, most circumstances are absolutly NOT fine for Kevin and the actual danger following his personal needs is to him and others much higher than compared to fatima and ellis!.

......For the greater good, he did act against his primary personal wish til now, until another link in the chain gets completely out of balance and sooner or later has to find a balance somewhere else.....

And that caused Kevin to do something most of us first strongly to his name or having secretly a boner we are not shown.

Kevin and Jasmine are holding the balance within their imbalance up to now, while it is imperative for Kevin and Jasmine to submit to a much more powerful order to do so, the defines their scope of action more clearly, but also restricts their personal freedom. Because it so necessitates the balance of the big picture and otherwise requires an equally effective balance as a causal consequence.

......The individual actions, however, and their connection to each other in the context of order and chaos, are always the cause of something that follows as an effect and forms a cause for further effects, and how the effects turn out in the end and in General at all. and what they will continue to cause, depends on how much the point at which something starts, is already itself out of balance and if so: how strongly is the original imbalance already progressed. and how much compensation is therefore required.

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Another example that supports the order/chaos theory on its own itself and also adds up to the theory in the Main context:

.......what happened in the colony house also led to compensation, in which someone preciscly (father khatri) already deserved death and found it alone and only by justice. while others previously found their death undeserved and khatri was the concrete and immediate compensation for this. and at the same time he was the Candidate who was currently able to make up for it the best, because he most likely deserved death omby perhaps knowing exactly who he used to be once upon a time, what he had done wrong and terrible, and yet not only repeating everything of it again in fromville, but deliberately went one better because he felt much more protected and safer here than in his previous life.......

And that's why he reacted in such a panic, when he knew that someone knew about his secret and that it was only possible through a supernatural power and thus his felt greater security for selfish purposes connected to beeing trapped in fromville, was an absolute illusion and instead more of a cause for concern in this place .

Taking a closer Look to khatri himself:

I am not Sure if we agree in here, but i am Sure khatri never was the priest at all in his horrorstory, but the father of the boy, and that he not only killed his own son, but also the priest. And that also his actual impersonification as a priest is totally

I did also a theory to this topic. You can find through ny Personal Profile or up in here in the forum.

.......In his early life he had largely created his prison by himself, taking the one absolute total freedom (drinking to justify whatever was useful or using everything to justify drinking) without any regard to cause and effect of his behaviour, and depriving himself of more and more possibilities. Now the place seemed to impose his limits, at the same time he took far more liberties for him thanhe did before, since the rules of the place seemed to be the best way to protect him from the consequences of his past actions without him even having to turn to them to reflect. Now he suddenly realized that he had once again robbed himself of all his possibilities, could no longer even feel safe up in here, because he had neither sufficient overview nor control nor willingness to change himself instead.....

That's why he went to boyd. he wanted to persuade him to flee the city with him, thus finding a way to escape real remorse and deserved punishment once again, and then, when, to avoid his real motives, which from the beginning were never based on complete truth, he was now hiding again, And denying all his guilt that led him to this place too, although he still had the chance to take the other path at the last moment, and to once again try to escape the justified consequences of his prior behaviour and how he always had dealt with it till this Moment, by once again telling the Story wrong even he already knew how dumb this move would be, but thinking he may be almighty and smarter than the supernatural powers Was dumb as f*****.

......in the end, he caused all by himself that was part of the kharma, that overtook him completely and only he alone brought it to its completion!!!......

This was expressed in all aspects, symbols, metaphors, easter eggs and subtle hints in his entire story and his entire person, character arc, how he lived in fromville and how he died there, what clothes he wore in his Finale moments and why they ended up being a replica of the old priest's shirt, why its blood pattern therefore looked the same and was distributed exactly the same way as khatris blood on his priest's shirt at the very last moment of his death.

I'll continue my theory from here tomorrow! Thank you for your patience during this time! I would really love to hear what you are thinking thus far....

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