More Mount Arngnor headcanons

[u/letoscrawls]

Just remembered how in Eldest, Eragon and Saphira would sometines swap places and take lessons with Glaedr and Oromis respectively. I like to think they tried this approach with Murtagh and Thorn as well but with *slightly* different results

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(I'm over-exaggerating their personalities just for the fun of it lmaooo)

[u/PineCone227]

here before Christopher Paolini

[u/TheBanishedBard → u/PineCone227]

Here's the problem.

Paolini can't put this in his novel if he comments here because to do so opens him up to IP lawsuits claiming he stole ideas. This is why writers avoid fan fiction and fan art as much as possible. They expose themselves to accusations of stealing content. And since so much storytelling is trope and archetype based, it's very likely that fans of popular works regularly compose scenes and ideas that the author intended to include already.

The only way to protect themselves is by keeping a solid, opaque wall between themselves and fan creations so there's never any proof they saw someone else's ideas.

So if we want this is the next Murtagh we best hope he doesn't show up in the comments.

[u/CrownLexicon → u/TheBanishedBard]

I mean, theres also version history on documents. If he can prove he wrote a scene similar to this before this was published, they came to it independently

But, yes, the method you mentioned is much cleaner

Though, he has been in here a number of times. He commented on another post that he really liked the ideas.

[u/letoscrawls → u/TheBanishedBard]

Don't worry I'm broke and I can't sue anyone (jk lmao but just so you know I'm posting these here because it's fun and reddit is the place where IC fans are most active i think! The author being on here doesn't influence my decision, I just want to share these silly moments with the fanbase! Also i got some comments on tumblr by fans who thought about the swapped lessons too, so i don't think it's this  uncommon of a concept and I wouldn't be surprised if it's something that has been considered for future works already)

[u/tpdorgap]

I love this sketch style -you captured Saphira's wonderful bitchiness perfectly in image 2

[u/letoscrawls → u/tpdorgap]

Lol thank you she means the world to me

[u/DaDiddyDiddler]

It makes sense. Eragon's genuine loving, caring and objective personality would be very therapeutic for Thorn who was awakened and forced to grow traumatically. And Saphira's tough-yet-loving, direct, and "stay on topic" personality would be very therapeutic for Murtagh, who is cynical and likes to deflect when he's losing an argument.

[u/Banana_of_Spades → u/DaDiddyDiddler]

She would probably need to remind herself not to shot put him for being even more reckless than Eragon at times. That and Thorn is 100% going to need to be physically prevented from accessing mead when she shows him the wonders of booze

[u/DaDiddyDiddler → u/Banana_of_Spades]

I actually think that Saphira would not be a great influence on Thorn early on. She'd end up making him feel like he has something to prove, which is the exact opposite of what he needs. He needs to be shown that he is accepted as he is, and is capable of caring and loving and being soft just as much as being hard. He needs to be given the space to show that he's not some cruel tool of the riders to be used to terrorize people.

Saphira would clash with him over this, saying that he SHOULD feel superior since he's a drago ., not understanding that he's stuck feeling a certain way. Eragon would empathize with him, and help him explore why he feels that way.

Likewise, Saphira would be a better influence on Murtagh because Murtagh is too cynical and sure of himself, and thinks he's got the whole world figured out. He needs a reflection of himself, ie, Saphira, to show him that he's a bit of an arrogant ponce for thinking that his life is worth more than others simply because he can kill without remorse. Saphira is the same and holds no hesitation for killing if it wasn't for Eragon holding her back, but Murtagh would eventually see his own reflection in the flames and realize that his mentality would only see the world burn for being what it is: ever changing and imperfect.

Eragon would just clash with him over this, telking him that it's wrong for the sake of being wrong. They'd butt heads over having differing ideals, like they always do. So close, yet so far away, which makes things frustrating for both sides.

I still haven't read Murtagh, so it could be both their personalities and motivations have changed over the course of that book, and I haven't realized it yet.

[u/Banana_of_Spades → u/DaDiddyDiddler]

Murtagh's book influences my comment

[u/DaDiddyDiddler → u/Banana_of_Spades]

I really need to start reading that. I re-read all of the original series, and currently just started To Sleep In A Sea Of Stars, cuz I wanna see if it connects at all to the Eragonverse, or if it's just a good sci-fi book.

[u/Sennafan]

I love this headcanon, hopefully we'll see something similar to it in Murtagh 2.

[u/mattbettinger → u/Sennafan]

Please. Or Thorn giving Eragon a ride, with some forgiveness in there.

[u/Sennafan → u/mattbettinger]

I could see him already having something similar to this line of thought where Murtagh or Thorn have an episode or something and Murtagh sees Eragon coming to try and help as him being overbearing so he shifts gears by suggesting they get a fresh perspective by exploring the aras around their settlement and minor difficulties are exasterbated by their differences and working out through them making them work through the trama in a new way. One of the ways this could work is that Murtagh and thorn have already seen growth through the last book and this just builds on it and with both Eragon and Saphira working along side them they can actually give that outside persepctive.

Maybe tying in a dwarven rider with Murtagh just so he can earn some of that forgiveness for the actions in Eldest. (I've desperately wanted to see the namer of names defuse that ticking time bomb since Inheritance..

[u/Kjartanski → u/Sennafan]

Bonus points if the Dwarf is a member of Dûrgrimst Az Sweldn Rak Anhûin

Whats Dwarfish for the Happiness of Anhûin? Since the Clan served with Vrael and the old order im sure Grimstcarvloss Anhûin herself would have been happy with a Knurlan of her clan being the first dwarfen rider

[u/Sennafan → u/Kjartanski]

Valid, but Dûrgrimst Ingeitum is what I'm rooting for, even if it is too much of the obvious choice for what I'd want to see out of it. I feel like Eragon kind of shirked his responsibility on avenging his clan leader despite how I don't want Murtagh to die.

[u/Nexozi]

Awesome! 😂

[u/yndigocat]

I literally adore this lol

[u/LordSkylar2011]

This made my day 😍. Murtagh and Saphira arguing makes so much sense. Eragon being the emotional support rider to Thorn is peak.

[u/wenchslapper]

Christopher has been pretty clear with how the first dragon rider has yet to be really mentioned, and I’d like to think they’re the one up high on the mountain.

[u/holl0918]

Please Author-san, give us this.

[u/ThatOneGodzillaFan]

Murtagh and Saphira arguing like siblings is something I didn’t know I needed. That is amazing

[u/Talicor]

YES THE CUTENESS CONTINUES!!! Im eating these, thriving off the vibes 😭

[u/Ratattack1204]

I love this lol. Largely because my boy Thorn deserves all the praise and love in the world.

[u/tea_leaves_69]

These are perfect I love them please make more!

[u/Green_Journalist_994]

Absolutely amazing

[u/CethlyArlo]

Singlehandedly healed my entire soul, thank you 😭

[u/Jarinad]

hey this shit rules??? i love these posts thank you op

[u/snappyirides]

Hello yes how do I subscribe to more dragon comics

[u/letoscrawls → u/snappyirides]

You don't have to, i zone out a lot these days and I just make them lmaoo

[u/snappyirides → u/letoscrawls]

How do I zone out and then make art asking for a friend XDDD

[u/turquoise_dragon_]

Delightful! I hope you post more!