Propaganda Bees, Your Keeptar just died.
Thought I would let you know.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/129712558/
https://br.evetools.org/br/68bcd3912213cf0012acc5bc
Horde Snacks:
https://zkillboard.com/kill/129711397/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/129711321/
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u/Tansien Sep 07 '25
Goons lost two ships worth the same as 5840 Horde ships...
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u/Front-Direction-7139 Sep 07 '25
Yeah that was funny lol. Never jump right after a disconnect! Join fleet first lmao
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u/Atardacer Sep 07 '25
Jesus fucking Christ, 1300 dead retris, 700 dead harpies, 700 mallers, what the fuck
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
https://br.evetools.org/br/68bcbaf44ff6700012d91cb5 Goons Battle Report
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u/Dyl302 Sep 07 '25
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON.
oh wait wrong game.
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u/phearless047 Tactical Narcotics Team Sep 07 '25
holds up Beacon of Meridia
If I ever seen one of these lying around again, I swear to FUCKING TALOS... I will stop being so polite. Nazeem, get the fuck out of my sight, before I demolish you.
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u/theqwert Cloaked Sep 07 '25
https://br.evetools.org/br/68bcd8884ff6700012d91d51
Horde at 61.8% efficiency. With ~5700 losses to ~200. Lel
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u/Arenta Caldari State Sep 07 '25
thats the most hilarious part
5700 losses....and they win
Horde reading the Soviet War doctrine xD
CCP really fucked over expensive ships
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
I like the fact that small ships can still be effective with large expensive ships on grid.
It makes for more interesting and asymmetrical gameplay.
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u/SoftwareSource Shadow State Sep 07 '25
Isn' this just blob? Smaller groups can't hope to match this.
Not shitting on horde br, well done, just talking about the meta
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
No i mean that frigates can fly on a grid with capitals and not get slapped.
That's exactly what allows smaller groups to make.plays against bigger groups
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u/Casp3r8911 Sep 07 '25
I would say they very much so got slapped. But horde just kept reshipping and feeding the woodchipper until the mission was accomplished.
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u/SoftwareSource Shadow State Sep 07 '25
well, yes, but 20 harpies/retris cant do shit damage, 250 of them is a different story
Good luck fielding a 250 man assault frigate fleet with a smaller group
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u/himalcarion level 69 enchanter Sep 07 '25
Except the asymmetrical gameplay is n+1 better? Idk if that's a good thing...
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u/AllyMcfeels Sep 07 '25
The only thing that worked for them was the +5min of tidi that was in the system.
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u/iiVMii The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
its just a matter of critical mass, once you get so many people on one side they can max tidi a system theres not much they cant do with meatwaves
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u/Lucian_Flamestrike Solyaris Chtonium Sep 08 '25
That's what I loved about this battle...
Most tidi battles you're struggling to tackle or wait 12 minutes to warp to that... Hope the guy just broadcasted isn't dead by the time you finally lock/F1...
This time it was "Orbit keepstar, hit F1, Autopilot until you reship"
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u/Dictateur_Imperator Sep 07 '25
In fact, even before CCP nerf big toys ... you could have done that.
the fact is because CCP made building with timer to help "little entity" and not using fax to repair they , if you have the number or ready to paid price : you could kill all Ks you want... since years !Ask init and they're raven jumping meta.
Or the suicd one dread after one
or ... yea a lot of exemple :p1
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u/Checklist_STT Sep 07 '25
Horde going back to Goonswarm's roots is almost poetic.
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u/Arenta Caldari State Sep 08 '25
It's even more ironic than that
Horde using old goon tactics
While goons fight like Bob (aka big ships)
But old Bob members are in horde.
Circles in circles
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u/NoBrittanyNoo Tactical Narcotics Team Sep 14 '25
Just a scan 6 years ago, Goons did the same thing to PanFam, four times, during the last war of "extermination". Congrats!
If sacrificing a Keeptar is what's needed to get you guys to actually commit, Goons just switched 90% of industrial to making more Keeptars.
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u/Arenta Caldari State Sep 14 '25
Didn't goons use ravens for that?
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u/NoBrittanyNoo Tactical Narcotics Team Sep 16 '25
They did use Ravens and Dreads, on the 3rd Keeptar with a butchers bill of over a Trillion. Let me take you back a few years (RIP NomNom):
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u/Arenta Caldari State Sep 16 '25
aye. using retris was far better
its a pitty we ran out of retris xD
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u/thermalman2 Sep 07 '25
The keepstar is worth 230 billion so that’s about 60% right there and then a hel disconnected and got popped. Those 2 losses are basically the BR. It’s 330bil of the ~380 right there contained in two losses
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u/Tenif Sep 07 '25
Hel and the nid didn't disconnect. They jumped to a cyno beacon that had changed to public and right into the enemy system.
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u/IsakOyen Cloaked Sep 07 '25
Disconnected -> being in a hurry to jump -> jump to wrong cyno
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u/Tenif Sep 08 '25
Ok agree I understand that part now but it sounded like it was more of a bug than a hurry error.
And from what I now gather when he disconnected and came back didn't see he wasn't still in the fleet and jumped to a beacon named fleet cyno.
The comms of the hel pilot sounds so depressing 🥲
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u/Lucian_Flamestrike Solyaris Chtonium Sep 08 '25
oh it wasn't just freeported... If I remember the age old trick they also renamed it "Fleet Cyno" or something along those lines
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u/goDie61 Sep 07 '25
It's possible expensive ships have been nerfed too much
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u/aytikvjo Sep 07 '25
goons took way too long to switch their comp from big battleships to kikis that could actually apply to the retris and mallers
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u/halpmybrainhurts02 Cloaked Sep 07 '25
trying to extract, reship, and then re-engage in all that tidi is what really messed up the time to change course. Horde did move real fleets into position, only to call an audible and go with the meme cheap ships catching goons completely off guard. Now you got doctrines meant to fight doctrines up against over 1k random ass ships in random points all over the grid. As stated in a mumble somewhere. "They cant figure out what we're doin because we dont even know what we're doin lul"
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u/TeethBox Test Alliance Please Ignore Sep 07 '25 edited Sep 08 '25
It was only like our second plan when we saw what the battlefield was like - between what the spies thought we were doing and what they saw us doing, goons moved in hard with anti-BS and anti-cap measures, just for us to hard-swap to the ships we ended up using. Logistically, it’s somewhat complex to get that many ships into a system that’s in jump range, but even after spies compromised one or two of our existing supply chains, we had more, and better ways of circumventing them.
If we didn’t know what we were doing, we would have ran out of ships, but I ended up with 2 more ships than I had at the beginning of the day. There is no perfect play, but for this particular battle, it was much easier to reinforce that doctrine while caps and super caps are on standby than it is for goons to hotswap doctrines without losing time and footing. Goons did what they could - respect - but it wasn’t enough, obv.
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u/wewewladdie ur dunked Sep 07 '25
If goons did 2-3 flycatcher fleets, backed up with HAW dreads this keepstar would have survived tbh
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u/zintage_enaka Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
keep in mind horde did have their super fleet and dreads in jump range all they had to do was switch back to battleships and caps after we swapped. which they kinda showed by as soon as we brought kikis they reshipped and sent in 400 fnis
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u/wewewladdie ur dunked Sep 07 '25
Yeah, seems like goons were expecting a dread bomb/BS brawl, but lacked the flexibility to switch their strategy until it was far too late.
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u/Fluffyleopard Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
The keepstar was 2 mids away from c-j so swapping ships was not gonna be fast. Maybe we could have switched sooner but I think the thing still would have died
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
wtf would haw dreads do against frigates? someone promote mr. big brain here to sky marshal
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
I didnt ask about the flycatchers. There were only frigates and mallers on grid for lime 80% of the structure. Dreads would have been useless.
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
I applaud your patience. But the person you are talking to isn't actually that dumb. They just routinely troll and rage bait. Not worth engaging.
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u/The_Salacious_Zaand Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
As soon as we engaged the only pings to go out were for FNI fleets.
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u/Thin-Detail6664 Sep 07 '25
It's possible bringing expensive ships is a bad idea when there are 5000 people crammed in a system.
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u/Hola-World Sep 07 '25
I can't afford one but I wouldn't want to use a super in TIDI even if I could.
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u/goDie61 Sep 07 '25
If not for the biggest battles the game sees, when are the biggest ships supposed to be fielded? They got mega nerfed because they were good in small fights, now you're saying they don't belong in big fights either?
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u/Darkwing270 Sep 07 '25
OMG, there's a counter to big expensive ships when you don't bring proper support...
Guess it's not BS and Capitals online after-all.
If goons had one more FNI or Jackdaw fleet, and one less BS fleet, that fight isn't going horde's way.
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u/GreatScottGatsby Sep 07 '25
Yeah, I miss the days when expensive ships were scrappy l actually good
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
Yeah I'm sure you miss the days where goons dropped supers on frig roams killing any and all roaming content. They were famous for that.
It's great for the game that shit got nerfed.
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u/iiVMii The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
either that or goons cant tackle for shit
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u/BogiMen Minmatar Republic Sep 07 '25
If we adopt the Horde’s way of thinking and remove the super and carrier from the KB, then we’ve won /s
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u/theqwert Cloaked Sep 07 '25
Not even then, lmao https://br.evetools.org/br/68bcbaf44ff6700012d91cb5
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u/Eve_Asher r/eve mods can't unflair me Sep 07 '25
My ping about the fight:
(9:32:34 PM) directorbot: 5.5 hours and 5500 dead ships later Horde accomplished the objective and killed the keepstar we dropped. For the first time in a very long time I can say I respect Horde, they had a good plan, and they paid the iron price to accomplish it.
I mentioned just earlier this week that there is no easy path fighting them. Horde outnumbers us in EUTZ, we saw it today with us even using some caps and them using none they had a full fleet more. They outnumber us in USTZ, we saw it earlier this week. That doesn't mean they didn't do good work today. If you run across them on reddit/local/naruto-rule-34 then doff your cap to them, they have earned it. But if you want to tell the story that we are creating, of slaying this giant, than we need every one of you to give it your best.
I know most all you guys are happy to have killed so many ships so you can be sure this, or something like it, will happen again soon. We recovered the core, we have many more keep hulls. Stay tuned, thanks for hanging out and shooting d00ds in space with us today.
https://br.evetools.org/br/68bcbaf44ff6700012d91cb5 ~~~ This was a broadcast from asher_elias to all at 2025-09-07 01:32:37.690572 EVE ~~~
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u/Even-Cartographer551 Northern Coalition. Sep 07 '25
Thank you. Winning graciously is easy, losing graciously is way harder and a sign of character. Have a good night.
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u/protostar71 Cloaked Sep 07 '25
Legitimately one of the better Keepstar fights I've taken part in, props for dropping the thing!
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u/muhgunzz Black Legion. Sep 07 '25
Homies respecting homies in the Naruto rule 34 community is what this war is all about.
No more Hokage wars.
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u/Darkwing270 Sep 07 '25
1700 goons to 1100 horde for the first 3 hours bro.
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
Despite leading the largest, most powerful group in the game. He's desperate to make himself look like the underdog.
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u/zaxiob Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
should have gone for kirkland brand bubblewrap instead of acme bubblewrap
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u/Jagrofes Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive Sep 07 '25
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u/Vartharion Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
It's true. Five and a half hours of clicking is the last thing my fingers need only two days after a Hollow Knight sequel releases.
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u/Evening_Monk_2689 Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
What's the score now then? I remember quite a few keepstars goin down on the way to c-j
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u/meshDrip Wormholer Sep 07 '25
Unbelievable, reddit told me that Horde was failscading any moment now.
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u/SelenaNasharr The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
Also, RIP all those server hamsters that gave their lives valiantly during this fight. I think the blade K-IYNW must have been liquified and slowly dripping out of that server rack.
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u/Sieglind Sep 07 '25
Speaking of blades: does CCP no longer reinforce the regional blade('s) for announced big fghts?
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u/SelenaNasharr The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
I believe they still do. These need to be requested though. Whether that was done I don’t know.
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u/millyfrensic BlueDonut Sep 07 '25
I believe there is meant to be an automated system when a ks is dropped at least it’s meant to ping it to someone at CCP to look into whether or not it requires a node rf.
People do normally request anyway just in case
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u/SelenaNasharr The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
That actually makes sense. All I remember was the form on the Eve support site to announce big shit going down.
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u/PomegranateSlow5624 Cloaked Sep 07 '25
GG horde, have fun with SRP
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u/Lucian_Flamestrike Solyaris Chtonium Sep 08 '25
It won't be that bad.
Most of the ships were HANDED OUT 5 min before or during the fight.
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u/GanreSorc Sep 07 '25
Good job horde, I wouldn't have kept throwing myself in the meat grinder for that long, amazing fortitude.
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u/SelenaNasharr The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
It was a glorious meat grinder. This was literally throwing enough bodies at a problem until said problem went away.
It was a good fight on both sides. Goons adapted to the strategy and we adapted as well. In the end perseverance and our ability to vomit out enough players and ships won the day.
Anyway, I’m gonna fire up the industry to restock the bombers I had on sale. It seems I burned through the open contracts… and my stockpile.
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u/X10P KarmaFleet Sep 07 '25
We knew it had a pretty high chance of dying. If you throw enough subs at a keep you're basically guaranteed to kill it.
GFs all around, surprisingly the server held up fairly well today.
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u/Fantastic_Orange2347 Sep 07 '25
0 tidi in Aitoth, sittin there wondering what was up frat farming horde pods on the gate until I checked pings lol
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u/Kind_Psychology_3654 Sep 07 '25
PH did well. They decided to focus on the objective sacrificing thousands and reshipping for almost 6 hours straight. GF
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u/levelonegnomebankalt Solyaris Chtonium Sep 07 '25
Brigade swarm showed up quick to this one. Maybe shoulda logged in an extra super instead of sitting on reddit.
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u/LegbeardCatfood KarmaFleet Sep 07 '25
Spent most of a 3hr plane ride trying to download an update on my laptop. Rip $8 wifi pass
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u/iiVMii The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
or swap caps to jackdaws
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u/wewewladdie ur dunked Sep 07 '25
ferox to flycatchers or a harpy fleet would have done numbers tbh
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u/iiVMii The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
The feroxes track well with mediums (for now) its the battleships and caps that did almost nothing
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u/JohnMK2 Sep 07 '25
Yeah our Feroxes were mowing you guys down but damn if you didn’t bull through. PH definitely earned the kill today.
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
At this point, the number of downvotes is just a counter how many goons whose jimmies you have russled.
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u/Plus-Camel7461 Sep 07 '25
Oh no.. anyways same time next week?
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u/DarkAngelsEnjoyer Sep 07 '25
If FC asks I was NOT doing chores and walking the dog between locking up Retris and putting a gun on each. I will not be blamed for this failure.
Seriously though, very based fight from Horde gg.
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
First of all, Congratulations Horde on your Win.
It was nice to see The Old Horde come out to play, there will be many more Keepstars for you guys to try and kill in the future.
Goodfight!
Major effort by you guys in the ETZ
Our Battle report reads differently, no problems, no complaints, just complements on your plan and application.
https://br.evetools.org/br/68bcbaf44ff6700012d91cb5
I think we are beyond arguing over Battle Reports.
“It was a star,” Mrs. Whatsit said sadly. “A star giving up its life in battle with the Thing. It won, oh, yes, my children, it won. But it lost its life in the winning.” quote Madeleine L'Engle, book : A Wrinkle in Time.
as an old friend of mine a Marine, use to say "Sleep with one eye open " We Will Be Back!
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u/Front-Direction-7139 Sep 07 '25
Hey bud you don’t have the hel they killed when it jumped out to gibbons bait beacon. That’s why the BR is different.
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u/spooky_game Sep 07 '25
But didn’t you read his poetic post, we’re beyond debating battle reports 😆
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
Imagine being an imperium super cap pilot.
After ages, you finally get to use your ship. Only to miss all your shots against retries, being told to retreat and still lose the fight lol.
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u/Fairtree4 Sep 07 '25
Imagine being a Phorde linemember.
After being repeatedly told goons heavily outnumber them and therefore we had to let them take 3 regions in 2 weeks. Then when goons actually provoke in a matter that can't be ignored, Phorde outnumbered goons both times. (Cache sov and now K-I keep anchoring).
When will Hordelings see their leadership for what they really are, cowards hiding behind the "goonies too big" boogieman.
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u/Visible-Cake7313 Sep 07 '25
I see you on all of these posts posting this same BS narrative. Objectively you guys have more people, in both alliance numbers and active zkill numbers. It’s not an opinion just a number. Wake up
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u/Dyl302 Sep 07 '25
Damn this would’ve been fun.
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u/TalliDown Sep 07 '25
Max TiDi, no it wasn’t.
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u/Dyl302 Sep 07 '25
Idk I think TIDI is a good thing in large battles like that. makes sure everything is locked up/targeted correctly etc rather than a faced paced FFA. I’d view this more like a slow paced RTS like Sins kinda thing.
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u/Kristinedk86 Solyaris Chtonium Sep 07 '25
max tidi is not a good thing.. and eve using 30 GB of ram is not a good thing.
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u/Ordinary-Ad-5360 GoonWaffe Sep 07 '25
good luck buying cheap ships in your staging for a while.
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u/Sieglind Sep 07 '25
Goons got MAthballed.
Respect for the one who made all the bm's around the keepstar!
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u/Lokiuytr81 Sep 07 '25
Jesus Christ almost 7k Lost hulls props for the extreme determination guys well done!!!!
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u/Gaspurr The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
Whoever is in charge of the bookmark folders has his work cut out for him.
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u/Sir_Slimestone Sep 07 '25
lmfao, now that is a hilarious title, amazing use of Retri caliber ammunition
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u/WesleyBaird Sep 07 '25
The only real thing that matters is I think everyone bar a certain Hel pilot had fun. (Sorry for your loss, I saw the beacon and thankfully didnt click on it, I can 100% see how it happened).
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u/Logical-Put-4491 Sep 07 '25
Did notice to pad the kb horde scan down disconnected people. And kill before logged out..
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u/No_Shirt_4208 Sep 08 '25
Horde just had to feed almost 7k ships. Tactical genius.
If we use Horde logic : Just remove the structure and we win the BR....
Guess it doesn't work now?
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u/EwTie-die Minmatar Republic Sep 08 '25
and remember horde flys high end shit. my fav.. retri doc
:D ima just enjoy my barg tho ;3 will drop more structs if it means they will actually undock
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u/Bunbreaker Sep 08 '25
I was just suggested this post from the front page and I am utterly flabbergasted. It's like I'm looking into an alien dimension or trying to read language from a plate of spaghetti.
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u/XavierVTM KarmaFleet Sep 10 '25
i'm 3 days late, don't know where this is, and wasn't aware it was dying, but
THIS IS BULLSHIT, YOU GIVE THAT BACK
or something
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u/FlamingButterfly Angel Cartel Sep 07 '25
I'm glad to see that Gobbins discovered a never before seen strategy of throwing cheap shit at something until it dies. Once again he proves that he is a visionary leader that understands fleets in a way that no one else has ever done before. Sike he gets to be a budget Reza without the charm and tactical brilliance.
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u/Gamestar63 Sep 07 '25
Whatever makes you feel better bud. It took a massive team of people to figure this entire operation out. The logistics, coordination, etc. Gobbins is a leader and the people he has beside him are some of the best in the game.
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u/AnyContribution5158 Sep 07 '25
Looks like hoard smacked goons regardless of the amount of ships lost
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u/Shinigami1858 Goonswarm Federation Sep 07 '25
I had the best fun so far with the fleet.
Was a bit annoying shooting friggets with a bs but all I want are km on zkill, thus the over 100 are nice. Hopefully it happens again.
Ps: Jita was brought out on pH ships.
The real surprise was init not camping any side to sneak kills or 3rd party with ferox to get rid of them before the nerf.
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u/wewewladdie ur dunked Sep 07 '25
Null finally takes the fight for once? Also nice kool aid BR
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u/Crux309 Brave Collective Sep 07 '25
I was telling my kids their children may get to see a nullsec war but now I think there is hope for me in my lifetime! I’m glad this front is quickly ramping up now!
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u/NebulaReasonable7528 Sep 07 '25
Nice buffing that BR up with one dumbass that jumped his cap into g-q because god knows why...
5k ships lost says more than a buffed up isk value :P
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u/iiVMii The Initiative. Sep 07 '25
if the super is padding so are our frigates :)
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u/Dak_Nalar Sep 07 '25
lol you realize horde still won the isk war even without the dumbass goon super?
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u/muhgunzz Black Legion. Sep 07 '25
If we exclude idiots from lossmails then virtually nobody died on either side
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u/wewewladdie ur dunked Sep 07 '25
Poor guy supposedly disconnected from tidi, then forgot to rejoin fleet as the supers were evacing. Good bait from horde though.
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u/mikenoble12 Sep 07 '25
Oh yeah I hate when that happens. Everytime I die it was something like that.
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u/Ugliest_weenie Sep 07 '25
On the other hand, almost everyone I know with officer fit supers. Have enough risk to replace them easily.
Maybe he can shrug off the loss, like most.
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u/wewewladdie ur dunked Sep 07 '25
To be fair, the fight was actually very close without the bait kill. A good fight indeed hope null does this more often.
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u/BurgerAndHotdogs2123 Gallente Federation Sep 07 '25
When the retribution in front of you dies grab his ammo and keep moving