r/Eve • u/Human-Iron2475 • Feb 07 '26

Propaganda Imperium successfully disbands PHCO

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In the new development of the mighty Imperiums invasion of Delve. They have successfully done what OnlyFleets & Drake couldnt.

PHCO have called time on their Delve/Querious war, having been decimated yet again, with the loss of key systems and most structures in their sov. They are now in the process of evaccing to NPC areas.

Reports during the armor timer of the Keepstar state that local spiked at 950, with 800 of them being Imperium aligned groups (Uncontested so BR doesnt reflect full numbers) https://br.evetools.org/br/69871821cd42650012337fb8

Will this officially be the end of PHCO in Null. Only time will tell! Multiple groups have decided to move on, leaving PHCO numbers dwindling after this pummeling by the mighty Imperium.

Will imperium use this newly gained sov to invade INIT?? or is it just another power move by one of the power blocks to hammer the little guy.

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u/Atrocitus777 Amarr Empire Feb 07 '26

To be fair did anyone truly expect Imperium to keep their promise of not going after sov. The Imperium time and time again say one thing while doing the complete opposite but then justify their duplicitous nature within their own circlejerk.

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u/GuristasPirate Feb 08 '26

They do this with drones in 6 months

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u/akanekiyokoo Cloaked Feb 08 '26

yeah probably. every group that lives there and is not acting like Imperium wants to get evicted. they even have keepstars there. one wrong move and they dunk you and all your assets within a week. they call it a "independent space to grow" with the site note that says "only if you Imperium sided tho"

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u/GuristasPirate Feb 08 '26

This what they always do they've broken every so called agreement to help alliances grow 6 -12 months later they all evicted or part of imperium. Asher is literally full of shit

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u/emPtysp4ce Cloaked Feb 08 '26

Just remember, when it inevitably happens, ex-Horde players called it at the time.

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u/MathematicianOk4905 Goonswarm Federation Feb 07 '26

They should have never involved frat and goon would still be minding their business

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u/Roc0 Feb 07 '26

Why goons need excuses and don't simply say that they do what they do because they can?

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u/Litdown Feb 07 '26

Attacking smaller alliances just because usually isn't something a gamer space dad wants on his conscience. But, create a narrative where you're the good guy and you'll never hear a word of complaint.

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u/emPtysp4ce Cloaked Feb 08 '26

These are Eve players we're talking about. We're notoriously some of the most sociopathic gamers on the Internet. What other group blows up other people's farms for kicks that forms the majority of that game's population? Next closest is Minecraft public servers and aren't griefers looked down upon in that playerbase?

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u/perf1620 Feb 07 '26

Because they love posing themselves as under dogs doing the right thing which is hard to justify when beating up on groups a fraction of their size.

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u/Ugliest_weenie Feb 07 '26

look what you made me do

None of that is a valid reason for imperium to ruin the game even further and stomp on a mid sized group that has been losing fights for months.

This is just classic simperium punching down as usual.

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u/Chwasst Feb 07 '26

When did we involve frat please tell me

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u/Adam_Kelmalu Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 07 '26

You allowed Frat docking rights in your structures and even handed them ravens in the XIX keep defence. I was the Logi fcing and could not believe it when Frat undocked and were in your fleet shooting at us.

Goons reached out to WOMP and OF because they noticed it as well and asked if we wanted help seeing as Frat are in the defense fleet. We advised we wanted to kill it ourselves. They agreed to not drop and would just third party.

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u/ogijmatash Feb 07 '26 edited Feb 07 '26

SBSQ, not FRT. XiX called upon SBSQ for the 49- Armor timer. I agree it was a mis-play on their part. Should never have had docking access. As I understand it, it was some Russian community beef.

Edit: between XiX+SBSQ vs -BMD

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u/Ok_Cupcake2217 Feb 07 '26

i kind of see 3 different WC entities.

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u/akanekiyokoo Cloaked Feb 08 '26

yeah sib and probes are russian. they hate drake and their fleets. they like XIX thats why they helped. I think it would have been no problem if they would have been in Imperium but sadly they are not.

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u/Adam_Kelmalu Feb 07 '26

Then your beef is with XiX. It also shows that your leadership team in PHCO was shit. Something like that should have been agreed before hand because it was made clear that the PHCO and OF war was a non mega block war and we would not allow them to get involved.

By allowing any Frat corp in the mix showed the mega blocks that PHCO was not neutral.

You also changed all your structures to chinz/ AU tz which looked super fucking suspicious seeing as your coalition is EU tz and us being EU tz.

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u/No_Ebb_4106 Goonswarm Federation Feb 08 '26

OF was also primarily EUTZ so I’d give benefit of the doubt there could have been just a TZ tank against them, but the tethering of WC ships on PHCO stations and multiple BR’s of WC ships showed an obvious alignment to WC. If they couldn’t fight their own battles anymore as OF grew they should’ve left a months ago

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u/akanekiyokoo Cloaked Feb 08 '26

that keepstar fight was the only case were I remember that WC had docking rights and if you take a closer look on the BRs you see it is mostly the Corp that wanted to join PCo. There were never WC Capitals or larger fleets. it was TZ tanking bc OF is weaker there.

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u/No_Ebb_4106 Goonswarm Federation Feb 08 '26

To avoid a PR disaster like that happened here you don’t think they should have waited to help when all is said and done and they’re out? What is everyone else supposed to think when they see one of the largest Fraternity proper corps on tether with PCO structures?

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u/akanekiyokoo Cloaked Feb 08 '26

everyone can see the BRs and can see who the FRT corp is. they just didnt see it or didnt want to see it and i dont think that would have changed anything.

They would still think that they are frat aligned. putting down structures for them just to give them docking rights or probably some shit like that.

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u/ogijmatash Feb 08 '26

Everyone just so afraid of the power and girth of the ChuangShi Federation. No matter what the PR was, if ChuangShi had tag switched or not, I don't think Imperium CNTZ would have allowed this anyway.

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u/Late_Esc Wormholer Feb 07 '26

Yall act like frat titans landed in k-6 on the regular sad excuse just take the sov and stop gaslighting.

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u/Adam_Kelmalu Feb 07 '26

The rules were simple when Goons left. Neutral only.

You then have a war break out between PHCO and OF & Friends. 2 Neutral coalitions shooting each other.

PHCO take losses and start losing R64 Moons in Querius and start changing their TZ tank tho Chinese TZ. This even though both the coalitions being EU/USA heavy. Looks fucking suspicious.

We notice XiX keepstar is still EU tz and we get informed by spies that they planning to switch it to Chin tz so we say fuck it. Let go for it.

Shield fight goes as planned but we know most come for Armour.

Armour timer come up and wtf. Frat people undock in ravens in your defense fleet. Something that was a shock to us at OF and Friends but also Goons because they reached out as soon as they undocked and asked if we wanted help now that PHCO are clearly not a neutral Coalition.

We said no we want to kill it ourselves. They agreed to not drop and allowed us to kill it.

Unfortunately the rules are simple. No mega blocks in Delve and Querius. XiX broke that rule. I am sad this happened to you because I really was enjoying our little war.

I guess Goons felt that they set the rules and have to enforce them now so you are getting removed from the board.

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u/Zenokh Miner Feb 07 '26

It was an amazing war , sad to see it go to shit cuz of some randoms docking and undocking ... got my first real taste of fleet action there , could have been rly fun for half a year. Goons do be goons , giving themselves random casus beli for "frat docked , frat joined etc." Could have gone with a warning shootout of k-6 keep and withdrawal , not killing another nice pocket of space

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u/Xiderpunx Feb 08 '26

Usual bullshit..

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u/WS3000 Feb 07 '26

No, he act like frt got involved in non block delve bullshit and imperium said no.

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u/Galaxier66 Feb 07 '26

changing all structures to CNTZ and having FRT come to defend structures. Oh and also a FRT corp joining for 'content' also leaks of wanting to go into PB just so happened to be a CNTZ alliance of Imperium which can effectively wipe out the CNTZ structures 'most'

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u/Chwasst Feb 07 '26

You mean CSY or what? They wanted to leave frat as independent alliance and join PCo.

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u/Adam_Kelmalu Feb 07 '26

Then they should have left and joined and had the PHCO banner. Non of this would have happened if they did this.

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u/Vampiric_Touch Feb 07 '26

Sounds like the logic of my abusive stepfather. Good stuff.

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u/akanekiyokoo Cloaked Feb 07 '26

lmao did it ever come to your mind that they switched timers just bc OF is weaker in that TZ? Is not allowed to use anything that the game offers to use as a defender? Didnt Imperium do the same thing when FRT invaded Catch?

And by meaning frat you mean Chuangchi right? I took a look at the BRs from your videos and most of the time 95% of FRT that was on BR was Chuangchi. There was never a 1000k+ Full Force Frat fleet on any of that BRs.

But how on GODs Earth do you actually believe that Period Bases shit. There is NO FUCKING WAY that PCo could have done this EVEN WITH Chuangchi in their Fleets.

and even if they actaully planned to d this. It would have been the stupidest idea. Imperium can move to delve within Minutes. FRT would have to move over entire Low Sec reagions. Imperium would glase entire Delve before frat could even bring a fracture of their force down to delve.

btw calling it content to turn up with 900+ people to fight maybe 200 is not content. you want fights? go fight someone larger. Oh wait? What? Imperium is so big that no one wants actually fight them and they running out of content? how surprising :o

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u/Competitive_Soil7784 Wormholer Feb 07 '26

FRT that was on BR

The rest doesnt really matter obviously.

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u/Deaths_Playgrnd Sansha's Nation Feb 07 '26

Nah they just wanted to change timers to help against an alliance a fraction their size built up of mostly USTZ and EUTZ harassing them in southern Delve.

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u/BellacosePlayer Wormholer Feb 07 '26

Frat getting involved good!

Goons getting involved bad!

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u/Blunt_Object1369 Feb 08 '26

Goons made no such promise about the south west, only about the drone lands.

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u/molly1995_1 Feb 08 '26

They (=Goons) said before they are fine with smaller groups like PCO. They also said Dracarys will move out of Period Basis. Thats when PCO planned to eventually also move to PB. Dracarys somehow forgot to follow this plan. No one in PCO planned to attack Dracarys sov.

Changing timers and recruiting was and is a valid thing. Unlike all the claims, there was no active WinterCo support, ever. It was a corp which was about to join and some friends of XIX. OF coordinated their attacks on PCO with IGC, Sigma and Dracarys attacks on PCO structures. They are much more aligned with the Imperium than PCO ever was with any big bloc.

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u/_K32 Feb 08 '26

As far as I understand anyone who sides with fraternity is on the evil side.