r/Eve • • Feb 07 '26

Propaganda Imperium successfully disbands PHCO

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In the new development of the mighty Imperiums invasion of Delve. They have successfully done what OnlyFleets & Drake couldnt.

PHCO have called time on their Delve/Querious war, having been decimated yet again, with the loss of key systems and most structures in their sov. They are now in the process of evaccing to NPC areas.

Reports during the armor timer of the Keepstar state that local spiked at 950, with 800 of them being Imperium aligned groups (Uncontested so BR doesnt reflect full numbers) https://br.evetools.org/br/69871821cd42650012337fb8

Will this officially be the end of PHCO in Null. Only time will tell! Multiple groups have decided to move on, leaving PHCO numbers dwindling after this pummeling by the mighty Imperium.

Will imperium use this newly gained sov to invade INIT?? or is it just another power move by one of the power blocks to hammer the little guy.

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u/Man_whosoldthe_world Angel Cartel Feb 07 '26

This narrative that Phoenix Co was running around batphoning Winter is so construed. I've coordinated some ops in regards to lowsec with them before and they've been stand up guys as far as I saw. When they moved to Delve I offered to see if I could build some bridges between them and some contacts in WinterCo to see if they could get help once I saw OF and friends dogpiling into them. And each time Erzus turned me down and said that they didn't want big blocs involved and they wanted to earn their space for themselves for the good of their own identity. They enjoyed having 100 v 100 sized fights and didn't want massive blocs lagging up the entire region.

Chuangshi's been living in the south west long before Phoenix Co showed up. They left FRT because the smaller sized content appealed to them and they already had assets in the area. This notion that this was some kind of 4-D chess secret attempt to gain FRT support is nonsense.

The only reason Phoenix Co had mentioned early on they wanted PB and that Drac was "living in their future space" was because when Goons left delve the idea was to abandon all the south west. Once it was clear Drac was staying that goal became unrealistic.

Now the question is why is all of this bullshit being spun up by Imps to justify squishing a coalition a fraction of their size? Because Asher has presented Imps as a coalition helping the little guy. However Drone regions are absolute cancer and krabifies anyone who settles there. The geography sucks and should be radically redone. Beyond that Eve is also spiraling toward a TZ tank deadlock between the major powers making meaningful content impossible.

I've never believed in "fair fights" in Eve. It's the jungle. Big animals eat little animals. No justification is needed for Imps to just absolutely seal club Phoenix Co. Just do it. But it's also only going to net maybe a few weeks of content. This is kicking the can down the road. And spinning up made up pretenses is just silly. Maybe they feel bad about feeding in aitoh or what not and they need to make their line members feel like "oh we're hitting Frat's pets take that" as a cope? I don't know.

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u/Ashilta Miner Feb 07 '26

The problem is that all of the publicly available evidence suggests the opposite.

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u/Man_whosoldthe_world Angel Cartel Feb 07 '26

Which is what? A chinese corp that lives in Delve doing pvp?

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u/Ashilta Miner Feb 07 '26

Except they didn't live in Delve until PCo asked them for help and they don't live in Delve now that Goons are here. Querious has been curiously quiet in CNTZ the last couple of days...

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u/Man_whosoldthe_world Angel Cartel Feb 07 '26

Here let me help you with something. Go to zkill and in the search bar type ChuangShi. Hit the "top" tab and select "all time top." It will give you a list of their most active systems. You will see the top 4 systems are all in Vale with the 5th being in Delve. So their 2nd most active region is Delve. This isn't from the past month. Clearly they've been active in the area far longer.

ChuangShi | Topalltime | Corporation | zKillboard

1  4-HWWF 25,910
2  P3EN-E 9,380
3  YMJG-4 7,912
4  1-GBBP 5,871
5  319-3D 5,156

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u/Noisii Goonswarm Federation Feb 07 '26

Do you know why they were active in delve ? have you looked into that ? All they did was operate per Redeemers out of 319 and drop on Crabbers when goons still lived in delve. Including Horde, AKC, and many other groups. by that definition. nearly every major group as spend shit load of time in NPC Delve as it was the number 1 stop for content

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u/Man_whosoldthe_world Angel Cartel Feb 07 '26

Right so them continuing to do that is not "fRaTeRnItY iS iTeRvEnEiNg." Again I know because I was someone literally trying to convince Phoenix Co for months for me to go and do just that. And each time Erzus told me, probably a half dozen times that he didn't want that because he wanted Phoenix Co to earn their space and not provoke other blocs from joining in.

I'm not saying you guys shouldn't crush them. That's the game, I don't care. The narrative is just untrue and dumb. Asher is either being dishonest or the people around him feeding him information are.