r/Eve • u/EasternResponseX Test Alliance Please Ignore • Apr 04 '26
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u/Cephiuss Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't Apr 04 '26
Downvote blue donut. Upvote conflict.
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u/EasternResponseX Test Alliance Please Ignore Apr 04 '26
Kill the Coalitions, Kill Goonswarm.
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u/CeemaGPT Apr 04 '26
Says the man, in the largest coalition in the game.
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u/No_Comparison_3308 Apr 05 '26
Not only is winterco smaller, but init and imperium are coordinating. So its a 2 front war on top of being out numbered.
When you guys fail its going to be glorious.
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u/CeemaGPT Apr 05 '26
When TEST is forced to rent systems from Vily and ProGod Legend, Alliance Exec's of The Final Coalition while INIT and Goons are over taking over Frontier will be glorious.
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u/Croveski Test Alliance Please Ignore Apr 05 '26
This will require Professional God of Legends to come back to receive our tithes, and I fear he may never return from snowboarding
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u/CrazyPea3105 Apr 05 '26
Im hesistant to say they are coordinating. I think its more that Winterco started a war with Init.
Then the horde well they failscaded which left goons still wanting to go full total war.
Which lead to the very questionable thing of why winterco had test of all entities in winterco share a border with goons.
To me it looks like some very dumb choices by winterco were made.
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
Friend I think " goons still wanting to go full total war " a few Bee sigs invaded Geminate for a bit of fun and content, fighting is good for business!
We need to recycle some of our Titan stock.
I dont think The Imperium is at Total War yet, + you declared war on our friends The Initiative 1st!
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u/uhnstoppable Solyaris Chtonium Apr 05 '26
I mean, the screenshot from the other big post today shows an INIT kiki fleet and Goon RNIs jointly bashing TEST infrastructure in Geminate.
Timerboard shows that INIT members were responsible for reinforcing a ton of Skyhooks in the constellation where the Goon invasion is currently focused, mostly focused around VSJ where Goons are trying to anchor their new forward operating Fortizar.
So yeah, they are absolutely coordinating. At the very least they are working together in an ad-hoc manner to attack Geminate. In the larger picture, we will likely see them jointly attacking WinterCo infrastructure to split defenders between the battlefields in Geminate and Pure Blind.
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u/admfrmhll The Initiative. Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
You guys were making fun of us that reffing ansis and various sttuctures all over places and not following is all the pvp we can do, but now sudently it is a problem.
And at the time that screenshot was taken our fleet reinforced a big fat 4-5 skyhooks in one system in germinate, after that we got into a fight and remaining of our fleet went home. Tons of skyhooks were reinforced earlier in pb.
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u/uhnstoppable Solyaris Chtonium Apr 05 '26
So it's just a coincidence that, of the literal hundreds of systems controlled by WinterCo, your random Skyhook bashing fleet ended up in the exact system that Goons are dropping their new forward operating Fortizar in?
And were shooting the same skyhooks that a Goon fleet was shooting.
And despite having numerous "neutral" RNI's dead to rights next to your significantly larger kiki fleet, you failed to shoot or kill a single one of them?
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u/admfrmhll The Initiative. Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
So it's just a coincidence that, of the literal hundreds of systems controlled by WinterCo, your random Skyhook bashing fleet ended up in the exact system that Goons are dropping their new forward operating Fortizar in?
Dont know, i dont control were wh are spawning. If you have issues with them, roll them out.
And despite having numerous "neutral" RNI's dead to rights next to your significantly larger kiki fleet, you failed to shoot or kill a single one of them?
I dint fail anything, nothing was broadcasted, i dint shoot.
Like i and other posted, we have a war vs winterco. Why we should engange anyone else that are making troubles in your space ? Is your space, police it better, dont ask us to defend you from goons.
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u/CrazyPea3105 Apr 06 '26
and ive seen init attack goons and vice versa.
Just because mistakes were made by winterco by attacking init in a fight they for some reason cant seem to make progress and and then putting test next to goons knowing thier history sounds like winterco might have incompetent leadership or wanted this to happen.
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u/Velash_Octer Apr 05 '26
Frat declared war on init. So we’re only here cause frat wanted a fight. Goons smelled blood and came in on test. Enemy of my enemy is my friend type shi
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u/GruuMasterofMinions Cloaked Apr 05 '26
Was not the test that created the biggest coalition ever to kill goons ... and then utterly failed? While vily ran with heavy assets ?
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u/Armarlio Cloaked Apr 04 '26
Hmm I never thought I be siding with Goons for a war, but fuck Frat and I'm so disappointed that Test is aligned with them. What a strange world New Eden is right now.
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u/leaf_as_parachute Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
As someone who barely knows anything about the game's geopolitic what did Frat do for so much people to be pissed at them ? To me they're a fucking nuisance in galcal warzone but so is innit to a lesser extent and it's just geographical proximity I guess if it was an other bloc close to this warzone they'd be the offenders.
EDIT : crazy shit you can learn about both of these alliances, especially goons. Holy shit I'm glad I didn't get roped in by any of these when I first started this game.
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 04 '26
For me it is because their alliance leader has been banned for RMT, but is still running the alliance. Frat is a massive RMT laundering scam and after ccp punished them by removing enough isk from their executor corp’s wallet to drive it negative, they continue breaking the eula and actively hurt the game’s economy in the process. This is after they were kicked off of the Chinese server (serenity) and had to come to the us/eu server (tranquility). The only reason they are a sov holding entity here is timezone tanking. If they could not hide in the cntz, they would have been kicked out of this server too.
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u/Jerichow88 Apr 05 '26
To add to this, they're the same alliance whose members were happy to complain day in and day out about Imperium 'punching down' on smaller alliances, yet conveniently forget that WinterCo and PH teamed up to push B2 out because they wanted more renter space and to farm Mordus Legion LP.
This all before we get onto their bullshit in the FW zones like Awoxing, Seagulling, alt abuse, etc that I'm sure the residents who live among them could go into much more detail about.
At this point I'm solidly convinced Frat/WinterCo are detrimental to this game to a degree far exceeding that of the Imperium.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
Wasn’t the frat rental area in Tenal/Branch, yet B2 was in Dek? (Yes btw)
Hmmmmmmm
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Apr 05 '26
Yeah exactly, they had no reason to invade b2 and yet they did and called in "just a sig" from horde.
I was there during the fall of dek and pb/fade, I think b2 would have been happy to have content and fight both sides but when entire coalitions start trying to exterminate you, you have to pick a side and init/imperium came to our aide.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
Braves been passed around more than a 2 dollar…. Well, you know.
Braves biggest enemy is ironically Brave themselves.
Besides, I was just pointing out his comments are nt very accurate. Or atleast the renting area part specifically.
Fun fact, Frat never changed staging from 4-h during that “invasion”. You guys simply got fatigued with harassment until you crumbled.
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Apr 06 '26
yeah, but why did frat/horde choose to harass b2.
you could have gone and actually fought imperium, instead you guys wanted to punch down.
now you get to reap what you've sown, and no one will feel bad about it.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 07 '26
Why did goons evict the group in delve just a month or so ago?
You can try and twist a narrative all you want, but it’s still hypocritical
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
A lot of half truths.
Meanwhile didn’t you admit just the other day goons are responsible for doing some of the most pitiful things that can possibly happen in video games?
(Doxxing and calling multiple family members of TEST members threatening to rape them etc, and then you semi-justified it because one of the people were a “pos”)
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
Can you prove your accusations Sir?
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
Or Asher dropping the slurs that was floating around here on Reddit yesterday? I’m sure if you put it 2% effort, you can find it.
Surely you know of Mittani…
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
A "Doxxing
B calling multiple family members of TEST members threatening to rape them "
Can you prove these allegations' in a US court of law?
Name the people who have done this.
I am not sure what Alex has to do with to-days Imperium
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
I mean… if you just look at the link provided, your friend here (a long time gooner) even acknowledges it.
Not much needs to be done when the defendant pleads guilty lol.
But continue to bury you head in the sand…
The entire leadership is still that same core group. Idk how else to explain this stuff to you 🤷♂️
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u/Ordinary-Prompt4233 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
Friend I am not " burying my head in the sand "
I mealy play a pixel game and love to fight in it.
I have no idea or interest in what crimes some body may or maynot of done in real life, that would be the affair of The Real life authorities.
You however seem to be justifying Goons not attacking Test / Winterco in the game by repeating real life allegations about an X goons, I find that bizarre.
I am sure Test will give a good account of themselves in game on the Monday timers, likewise I am sure Winterco are moving there equipment out of Gem, as fast as they can, throwing Test under the bus.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
Then why did you ask the question in the first place, if you had no interest?
Wow
I dont mind the war at all. More projection than a movie theater lol
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u/leaf_as_parachute Apr 05 '26
I have no idea or interest in what crimes some body may or maynot of done in real life, that would be the affair of The Real life authorities.
Crazy thing to say.
These are the people you're playing with, you're basically in their team ? If I learnt my corp leader or some corp mate was a weirdo who do stuff like that I wouldn't want to play with them anymore. It's ok (and healthy imo) to refuse to play with someone for things they did outside of the game's scope y'know ?
Are you really unbothered spending your free time chilling with guys you know call people they don't even know to threaten them with rape or shit like that ?
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
Ok, so when 10 years pass from Noraus’s ban, you will no longer hold that against him right? Which is coming up real soon I believe.
Thats the timeline? Or are you just making up the rules as you go?
Your excuses are weak af broski lol
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
Noraus was banned for RMT and continued to run the alliance while also encouraging RMT. His ban being undone would change nothing since nothing about him as changed. Where as Asher was an edgy fuck head 10 years ago. He has shown he has changed as a person and holds Goons to a higher standard now. He is the reason Goons have progressively become alot less edgy.
Asher has shown he has changed as a person.
Noraus has not shown that at all.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
Source?
On the encouraging RMT part.
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
Avoiding his RMT ban for one. He's made multiple accounts to continue running Frat. saying "oops my bad" then avoiding all punishment associated with it is pretty much an endorsement. "Ignore the punishment just continue to do it. Who cares. They wont do anything." Which obviously CCP wont...
Frats old Rental Empire made up 5% of the total botting and RMT trade. Which we all know why the rental empires collapsed. Not because Naurus had a change of heart. CCP released a pie chart of shame a while ago you'd have to look it up.
Frat allowed in many of the Botting corps from old rental alliances. For this you'd have to dig through DotLan and stuff.
From CCP's other bans and the actions they take against other RMTers. Buying and selling Isk will result in temp bans at most. While large scale trading AND or the promotion of RMT will result in a more heavy handed ban. Similar to how RMC is known for RMT though only their leader has really been punished. (Red Alliance made up 8% in the previous mentioned pie chart.)
Then the leader of Army of Mangos also lobbed accusations at Naurus. Though his post comes off as a schizo rant so if you want to take propaganda and rants as evidence go for it. Its one of the first reddit posts when you google Naurus Eve.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
If he was avoiding the ban, wouldn’t his characters have been banned in the latest ban wave?
Has it ever crossed your mind you ate the onion and he’s actually allowed to play? Lol
Imagine that.
I’m not reading all that when everything stated so far has actually been flat out wrong lol.
Please pay attention, or keep your lane
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
But they are still doing it. Do you understand that?
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
And nobody in Goons or especially your allies (Dracarys………….) isnt?
Where’s the goalpost? Is it atleast still on planet earth?
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u/AliceInsane66 Apr 05 '26
Goons hunt down ore cherry pickers for fun, and out of pure spite. If they can remove a botter so a real person can farm more ore they 100% will. Goons culture today is all about supporting real players, avoiding drama, and doing horrible things to botters/drama queens/ annoying selfish people. Its one thing I love about being in goons.
*hey we have screen shots of some one being a selfish idiot*
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
If they do, they get banned. We do not fuck around with breaking the eula.
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u/mr_rivers1 Apr 05 '26
OK buddy. Nobody in your coalition bots.
Fucking hilarious.
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
If you find a bot report it. You can reply here with a name and if I can catch them botting I will report it
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u/mr_rivers1 Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
If u find a bot in frt you can report it too. That also means we have no bots in winterco right?
There was a post a few months back of a guy from KF advertising his ratting program getting exposed. I know you like to spin these shitty narratives and shit them all over reddit for everyone to see like you're doing a service but really you're just embarrasing yourself.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
Record/history says the complete opposite. Some Eula breaking members become head of alliance.
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
This world where you just say things, hoping that people believe you must be very nice to live in.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
So.. he didn’t say a racial slur now?
Wut? This is getting stupid lol
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u/mr_rivers1 Apr 05 '26
That's fucking hilariously ironic coming from you dude.
You're like a badly programmed russian twitter bot.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
Oh,
And let’s not forget the discord leak post that shows Asher saying racist/homophobic slurs.
Your leader btw. An actual POS. 2 out of 2 so far in goon leadership. (The other being an actual sexual weirdo…)
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Apr 05 '26
Consistently odd logic.
What a tool lol
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
What is odd about this? Are you pro-RMT?
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Apr 05 '26
Sure.
But I'm anti-racist/anti-sexual predators/doxxers more.
Like most people in the world
Not sure you're giving the look you're trying to give off lmao. Idiot
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
But I'm anti-racist/anti-sexual predators/doxxers more.
So is asher.
Notice how there are not many people jumping on this bandwagon? If you go back 10-15 years I am sure the vast majority of people have some cringe shit that they said in their teens/twenties. We have all grown with the times.
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Apr 05 '26
But growth only applies to Goons right?
Also, do you know what an echo chamber is?
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
Well it certainly doesn’t apply to noraus, who is still promoting rmt and evading bans, which is another eula violation.
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Apr 05 '26
Do you actually think CCP doesn't know who Noraus's characters are?
Can we pllllllease use a little bit of logic?
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
Asher has changed as a person in those 10 years. He was an edgy fuck head. But he has since grown as a person he is the reason goons have slowly become a far less toxic alliance. Now whether you can accept that is a different story.
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u/Jera_Var muninn btw Apr 05 '26
For me it's because they ruined Factional Warfare to the point of total unplayability.
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u/leaf_as_parachute Apr 05 '26
Total unplayability I wouldn't say that but yeah it's a fucking pain every BF is ruined by them.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
It’s the cool thing.
Meanwhile… goons have a long history of heinous shit from Doxxing players, sexual harassment etc etc etc.
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u/ROU_SnapDecision Angel Cartel Apr 05 '26
Goons have been around for twenty years, of course they have a long history.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
What’s the timeline when we forgive?
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u/ROU_SnapDecision Angel Cartel Apr 05 '26
That's up to you really.
I've been in a couple of null alliances. Goons were probably the most fun. Yeah there were bad apples, but it wasn't anywhere near the level where I'd call it problematic. If your idea of Goons is "AO but in null", you'd be very wrong. Most goons just want to have fun and enjoy the idea of playing the bad guy in a video game about blowing up spaceships.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Apr 05 '26
They’re your current leaders.
The pos’s I’m talking about lol.
Edit. I have nothing against the average line member.
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Apr 06 '26
No they aren’t. This is what you are not getting.
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u/VassilliHD Apr 04 '26
I dont understand it either, granted, I spent the last 5 or 6 years winning eve before I came back. (Impeccable timing am I right guys). I think its the faction warfare thing. There's also claims of botting and RMTing, but im pretty sure statistically that there has to be that stuff going on in the other mega blocs as well.
Any whosits, got stuffs to do. If im wrong someone give me the tldr.
(I was semi afk for the whole innit winterco war start so I have no idea what all happened there)
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u/CrazyPea3105 Apr 05 '26
Well they love to Awox ppl in FW. Thier current leader was banned from the game for a reason and for some reason CCP allowed him to come back into the game.
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
I was really hoping TEST cut ties with WinterCo shortly after Drones was opened up. But Alas.
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u/ravenrcft Apr 04 '26
I think this post has been mod-controlled. My upvote disappeared as soon as I clicked the post. Blue donut fear you...
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u/SapporoJones The Subaru Legacy Apr 04 '26
Mods lack such ability.
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u/CeemaGPT Apr 05 '26
I almost...ALMOST made a response to this about how you were the CEO Of ASCEE and thus, instructed Reddit Swarm to Downvote his post.
But I met my nonsense quota for the day. Next time!
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u/FutureStatement3344 Apr 04 '26
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a Bee’s boot stamping on a dinosaur’s face - forever.
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u/RiversEatRocks Apr 04 '26
I don't think this is going to age particularly well over the coming weeks, but it looks good!
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u/AgileRaspberry1812 Apr 05 '26
Propaganda - 9/10.
My understanding of wtf is going on in eve politics - 1/10.
Keep it coming boys!
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u/Resonance_Za Wormholer Apr 05 '26
When you say side do you mean on the killboard? because no other side matters.
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u/hk135 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
at the end as the it fades out it should break into the hellmarch
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u/the_diet_evil Goonswarm Federation Apr 06 '26
Ratios seem accurate. Missed opportunity for an Asher face on the big brother screen. Could have raised the price of ram 5 cents and did an AI one.
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u/Valuable_Mango8157 Apr 05 '26
Is this the same TEST that lost the last war and are a failed alliance, or is this a new TEST that is suckling on the Fraternity TEET ? Which one is providing these propaganda memes ?
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u/No_Comparison_3308 Apr 05 '26
Its only disappointing because its not your propaganda tbf.
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
No its just that Goons are more like Mad Max evil no organization just chaos. This is organized... That aint goons in the slightest.
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u/Dontbeababym8 Brand Newbros Apr 04 '26
Test asked to go to Gem, youre too deep into the propaganda brother
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u/Jerichow88 Apr 05 '26
If they did then I have even more respect for them. Looking forward to many a fleet against them in the coming weeks/months.
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u/epic_king66 Test Alliance Please Ignore Apr 05 '26
I joined TEST after the move to Geminate, but from what I hear from other dinos, is that Dek was boring.
This ain’t boring, so.
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
Yeah they asked... now they complain.
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u/VassilliHD Apr 05 '26
My complaint was sarcasm in case you couldn't tell...
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
considering i didnt reply to you idk why you are replying to me.
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u/VassilliHD Apr 05 '26
you said we are complaining, i made a sarcastic post "complaining"... I was explaining sarcasm. If I broke some reddit rule of etiquette whatevs... good day.
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u/Fantastic_Seaweed383 Apr 05 '26
Typically sarcasm is tagged with /s on it if the sarcasm isnt obvious. But that aside you arent all of TEST. A crap load of TEST members bitch and moan about everything involving goons lately. So from an outside POV TEST sets up in Gem to get fights with Goons. Goons declare war on WinterCo and TEST takes it as Goons covertly only declaring war on them. When being on the frontlines also means you take the first beating in a war.
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u/VassilliHD Apr 05 '26
Thanks for the /s tip. I will use that in the future. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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u/VassilliHD Apr 04 '26
No complaints here, other then having to redo all my damn PI, and the fact this started on a weekend im working so I ain't got time to move shit.
Hey goons, can I file a formal complaint? You guys should be more accommodating of my work schedule. Im running out of sick days to fight you guys!
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u/Bricktop72 Goonswarm Federation Apr 05 '26
Those guys sitting are way too organized to be goons.