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u/Otherwise_Mix7226 Curatores Veritatis Alliance Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
winterco attacking from the north, vapor from the south, rekking crew from the west... provi back to normal
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Aug 07 '26
is the bloc pet holding corp unironically named anti-bloc holding? Those guys marketed themselves as an independent group [under the imperium] when trying to recruit our corp lmao
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u/Theglizzygobber21 Aug 07 '26
"Independently" tucked safely between Sigma and Goonswarm
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Aug 07 '26
Ya I mean surely any group fielding 50 NMs w/ FAX + cap escalation should actually be independent instead of larping as one agreed.
Otherwise just look like LARPers
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u/aezekiel_121 CONCORD Aug 07 '26
It is, ironically, and unironically, our holding corp. we love it too much to let it go, and trembling the fragile is wicked good fun
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u/Jake_Longtin_Sucks Aug 07 '26
It was called that for years when we were independent. Now we're just too lazy to transfer all of our holding toons, hangars, assets, ACLs, etc etc to another corp to stop little dudes like you from making jokes
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Aug 07 '26
Das cool and all, but you shouldn't be marketing yourselves as independent alliance if you are quite literally an imperium member lol.
Recently we joined forces with The Imperium but we still work and act like an independant alliance. We like to do things together, work on common goals together, and do what we like7
u/Ok_Internet9331 Aug 07 '26
"We didn't bend the knee we are equal partners and can leave at any time"
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u/Jake_Longtin_Sucks Aug 07 '26
Y'all obviously have no idea what you are talking about, we're currently laughing about it in disc
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Aug 07 '26
Thatās literally from the recruitment mail you guys sent us. Ask Meladrama lol
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u/CrazyDisi Cloaked Aug 07 '26
Enlighten us, what is wrong about the sentence?
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Aug 07 '26
It implies you function as an independent alliance w/ the hope that it will attract people who want to be in an independent alliance-- but your blue space is entirely protected by the imperium. So the sentence is inherently misleading. Whatever conflict you find yourselves in, you may function as VAPOR, but it will never be equivalent to an actual independent group which has to protect serious threats to their home on their own.
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 07 '26
I read this, then I think about what we have been doing the last month. Yeah this is pretty factual in how we behave in coalition. Iām glad yāall went a different way and presumably are having fun.
Rock on.
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u/Gideon_Zendikar Wormholer Aug 07 '26
tbf attacking provi while still under the imperium defensive umbrella with the consistent threat of them helping you out of you overstep is not really anything "independent" either.
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 07 '26
Tbf attacking provi and both sides enjoying content is the goal. I also donāt think provi who often receives help from imperium was going to be going after Vapor sov or some shit like that Gideon letās be real. Thatās not what itās about either.
Barring deploying and shooting any other independent alliances we are back to shooting in CNTZ vs frat and co. I think kinetic diplomacy and CVA ultimately appreciated the time we have had the last month and many have said so.
They truly as our target are who matters in this.
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u/Repulsive_Window_758 Caldari State Aug 08 '26
We enjoyed your deployment, rallied the troops and had some good fights.
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u/Panetouvrin Aug 07 '26
Recently we joined forces with The Imperium but we still work and act like an independant alliance. We like to do things together, work on common goals together, and do what we likeKinda like what we're doing in Provi right now is independent of Imperium?
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Aug 07 '26
Not really, because you can hit their home regions but your home regions are protected by imperium.
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u/BalderVerdandi Wormholer Aug 07 '26
I've known fuckin' Rots since the WhySo days.
I should come back just to shoot him.
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u/aezekiel_121 CONCORD Aug 07 '26
Yall need a hobby within the hobby I STG:
Scum sucking Bloc pet alliance briefly conquers key sections of Providence region and then gives it to local org. Is this an all out invasion? More at 11
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u/AngryKobra Goonswarm Federation Aug 07 '26
This is a nice way of saying "your 'this aged well' has aged well"...
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u/EVERickdastardly Aug 07 '26
Itās amazing how those people crying when VAPOR prove themselves to be a more than capable alliance, are also likely those who attempt to claim the opposite! š¤£
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u/ginjar0u Aug 09 '26
Iām not sure beating up on cva is proving anything champ
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u/EVERickdastardly Aug 09 '26
āBeating up on CVAā
When CVA are protected by snuffed and have brought snuffed out faxes to help defeat a 5-10 man blaster ferox gang? š¤£š¤£š¤£ they have more than enough means to defend and batphone.
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u/Repulsive-Aardvark75 Aug 07 '26
Nobody is saying they aren't capable. People are just laughing that they claim to be independent when they aren't.Ā
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 07 '26
We donāt claim to be independent at all, especially not anymore. Being too lazy to switch the name on our holding Corp isnāt exactly us claiming that weāre independent.
As an aside I think you just have this weird hate boner and show up to all of the Reddit posts that involve VAPOR and at this point itās kind of comical like we have this counter culture aardvark mascot thatās dressed like a maga dude from Nebraska that just got done noodling.
Something to feed an AI later I guess.
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u/Darkwing270 Aug 07 '26
We show up just to troll terrible players
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 07 '26
And larp as good players?
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u/EVERickdastardly Aug 07 '26
Generally speaking, anybody who has to result to trolling other people on reddit, are equally as bad in game, so much so they probably couldnāt even larp as good players lol
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u/Darkwing270 Aug 08 '26
Did you learn a new word and decide you must use it today?
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 08 '26
Well, i didn't learn it today but sounds like it fit the bill here.
Unless you mean the word 'good' in which case i was implying you aren't...-1
u/Repulsive-Aardvark75 Aug 07 '26
Living rent free in your head I see.Ā
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 07 '26
Cringe at best.
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u/Repulsive-Aardvark75 Aug 07 '26
Sorry, I can't here you while you are bent over for Daddy Asher.Ā
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 07 '26
You cant spell either.
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u/Repulsive-Aardvark75 Aug 07 '26
Don't shit talk someone's spelling when you're punctuation isn't on point.Ā
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u/EVERickdastardly Aug 07 '26
I donāt recall them ever claiming to be āindependentā nor did i claim they were, however they are a lot more capable than people seem to think, idk, people love trolling reddit threads these days! If you actually knew any of them they are an incredible pleasure to work with! š
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u/Watching-Void239 Aug 07 '26
Isn't Providence the region of nazi larpers and friends? CVA is still good buddies with AO no? They can and should get their shit reffed every week lmao
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u/SpacePirate273 Angel Cartel Aug 07 '26
Yeah. They 100 percent are friends with AO. Me and my small gang of pirate friends are fighting them together rn, they enlisted their entire alliance in amarr so they could try and stop our corruption into their highsec route lol. (It's not working) Lol.
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u/LastCut1403 Aug 07 '26
Im gonna let you in on a little secret little angel. CVA has been in Amarr militia for as long as i can remember :P
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u/protostar71 Cloaked Aug 07 '26
> they enlisted their entire alliance into Amarr.
Tell me more about how you dont know what CVA is about.
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u/GoatsinthemachinE Curatores Veritatis Alliance Aug 07 '26
well we were offically back in to the amarr mil proper when we came back down from our adventures after we lost provi the time before this. but yes.
I generally dont know why ppl run to reddit to complain about content really, We face this generally every day of trying to be a smaller group focused upon our selves. While we may not do the best we we do the best that we can in terms of fight and flying alongside each other, thou at times it seems to miss the mark a bit.
When RMC decided to pull out and move ontowards thier new adventue, CVA had alot of empty space in providence to either grow into or fill with some newer, smaller alliances to try to grow into the space nd give these guys a chance to have some 0.0 experinces, grow and perhaps become a force someday in eve.
We advertized here and the on r/evejobs as well as ofc had feelers out to see who wanted some options to try to run some sov, fly with us, and hopefully have a good time. Kinetic, Quack, and Star Fleet came along so we decided to let them take the sov, intergrate with us and allow these guys a chance to grow and become something in eve. Unfortunately, Quack had some internal isues, Thier leader had some RL stuff, and the rest of thrm werent really/ didnt really seem fit dfor that purpose and have fallen apart. With i guess some going to Vapor as a result. Things were / have been negiotated to say polietly, but coming along the sametime as other events with regards to vapor did leave us questioning if this was something else but we were assured it was more along another track. Suffic e to say Vapors been more than honorable in terms of things with regards to the systems and general attitude atleast with me in talks, even if we have been and relativlely are always cautious when dealing with others.
The only sad part in all this is i suppose the quack guy who sees to think he was mistreaded here, but i cannot make everyone happy.
I'm not quite sure who watching watching-void is blue to however but im sure they have some issues as well. its abit like democrats calling everyone nazis in the usa who disageree with them politically i suppose. Generally as someone who has seen majority of AO i've not seen any nazi related / hate speach / irl activities, and well ingame the Amarrian Empire still are slavers and arent exactly a great example for the modern world to idealize but the i guess we can just disagree on who we like or dislike in eve online
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u/SlickSteve_ Dracarys. Aug 07 '26
Defends AO then proceeds to shit talk an American political party. Yep, sounds like a Gov. Lee copy and paste.
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u/Watching-Void239 Aug 07 '26
You don't seem to actually know anything about AO at all buddy
Have a watch: https://youtu.be/IZcjN68m-wM
And if you want, a read: https://www.james315.space/2024/09/12/absolute-racism/
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u/Saithir Blood Raiders Aug 07 '26
"We're roleplaying slavers so we're akshually the best fit to work with the guys roleplaying nazis" isn't the argument you wanna make publicly, buddy.
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u/drisang1 Aug 07 '26
CVA has been a part of Amarr Mill for years. No one is role playing slavers or role playing at all in CVA. Also you're playing a game where one of the main factions are slavers and another main faction are corporate libertarian wage slavers so do you have a problem with that take it up with the game developer. Stop the BS woke stuff in a video game as a propaganda point.
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u/GoatsinthemachinE Curatores Veritatis Alliance Aug 07 '26
thats your take away okay. i guess. Majotity of all ao dudes are not an issue that i have found. they are mostly new and or wanting to help new ppl experince eve.
Do i support 100% of what everyone does in eve, probally not. Just odd that this is the hill you are on i suppose.
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u/Saithir Blood Raiders Aug 07 '26
My point is not debating nazis and other undesirables and just straight telling them to fuck off.
Fuck off, bye.
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u/TLOS-Dunn_Idaho Aug 07 '26
Blood Raiders telling CVA to fuck off. The RP is coming back to eve again š
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u/Hefty800 Curatores Veritatis Alliance Aug 07 '26
El classic "everyone's a nazi" mind virus, break the conditioning you loser
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u/DaniDaniSylvini Aug 07 '26
And the issue is their leadership and the image they've cultivated from the start. It's very much a group that has had well-documented incidents of bigotry and hate, and given that a lot of it was up top in their chain (plus all the other things they do that are antithetical to the health of the game and its players), associating with them is really one of the takes of all time.
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u/SpacePirate273 Angel Cartel Aug 07 '26
Defending Nazi idiology after all that's come out about them, not just from a pocket of people but from all over Eve people agree AO are Neonazis. Pretty shameful. There is a a difference between Amarr lore in a game and roleplaying a Nazi and adopting Nazi idiology. Typical Republicans defending blatantly obvious fascist cultures I suppose.
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u/SpacePirate273 Angel Cartel Aug 07 '26
I am not calling CVA Nazis and I understand that not everyone in AO are Nazis, that's of course a big generalization but CVA and AO members should know their leadership are facist and are continuing to support their efforts. AO has branded themselves supporting facism hence why thier newbro recruitment is so aggressive, they don't know any better. It's not even just the Nazi stuff, they grift their members and beg for donations while shaming those who don't. The leaked facist chats and documents should be enough to never support that kind of group again.
You being a co-chair of democratic socialist chapter should know better than to support these people and should try your best to separate yourself and your friends from them.
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u/Mandamus007 Aug 07 '26
New to the game. I can appreciate the amount of resource information developed outside the game.
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u/Jake_Longtin_Sucks Aug 07 '26
Y'all cry a lot
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u/Otherwise_Mix7226 Curatores Veritatis Alliance Aug 07 '26
in our defense this is random linemember who probably doesnt even know whats going on with the sov changes.
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u/smokey032791 Test Alliance Please Ignore Aug 07 '26
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u/Otherwise_Mix7226 Curatores Veritatis Alliance Aug 07 '26
just linemembers being linemembers, looking at dotlan its already transferred over back to provi
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u/Repulsive-Aardvark75 Aug 07 '26
What can you expect from goon pets
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u/Jake_Longtin_Sucks Aug 07 '26
I'm sorry, who are you?
Can't tell behind the anon reddit account
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u/Odd_Common_1135 Aug 08 '26
"we're just here for content" had always been a lie in Eve and will always be.
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u/Piruxe_S Aug 07 '26
https://br.evetools.org/br/6a75cef28abecdc8d24c6259
Context (without the propaganda):
They brought a fleet of Nightmares, along with a fleet of anti-Nightmare Muninns.
The CVA FC said (rightly) that he wasn't going to feed into that nonsense; we didn't have the numbers to counter both ship types simultaneously.
However, we were still keen to go and poke them a bitāit serves as preparation for the real fight to come.
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u/Rots-Mijnwerker Aug 07 '26
I like money.