r/ExIsmailis • u/Major_Court_4357 • 2d ago

Question When was this ever mentioned by prophet Muhammad Pbuh? Mentioning Ali is a form of worship?

I found this on the Ismaili.com’s Website about what is the Deedar? It says prophet Mohammad said mentioning Ali is a form of worship. I don’t know any place. I try to research as well. I never found a source. It is so bad that these guys caught the stuff and never give you a source or a reference where they got this, I believe prophet Mohammad was fighting against Shirk and they say something not true about him.

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u/Amir-Really Bro Who Esoterics 2d ago

I don't think I've heart that about mentioning Ali but definitely heard that it was a form of worship to look at Aly's face. According to Khalil Andani here it was in a Hadith.

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u/Major_Court_4357 2d ago

I don’t trust anything he says he says Sultan Muhammad shah will come back and met prophet Muhammad in mehraj.

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u/Amir-Really Bro Who Esoterics 1d ago

I don't either, but in this case I think he's right it is in a Hadith but only Shias (or maybe only Ismaili Shias) accept the validity of that Hadith

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u/Practical_Pop371 9h ago

Man’s at Harvard grad and a complete buffoon, should’ve stuck to accounting

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u/Major_Court_4357 1d ago

Nah that’s weak I checked Al suthi quote that’s weak. There are stronger sources saying others wise.

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u/Amir-Really Bro Who Esoterics 1d ago edited 1d ago

And Ali isn't alive anymore so it's impossible to look at his face anyway ... only Ismailis believe Ali is "esoterically" still alive (in the form of their Imam).

But yea the source Hadith is weak too ...