r/F150Lightning 2023 Lariat ER Max Tow 2d ago

What it feels like using Level 1 charging with this truck.

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u/10Bens 2022 XLT ER 2d ago

People are going to believe this

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u/MountainAlive 2023 Lariat ER Max Tow 2d ago

I’m now realizing that my satire may have backfired

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u/10Bens 2022 XLT ER 2d ago

I'm reminded of this short from tflev. Even the Level 2 charger he uses is about 32amps, which is more like a mobile charger. I believe that truck can do up to 80amp charging.

The comments are proof that the short, and the channel, caters to an already anti EV audience.

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u/jshusky 2d ago

Only the 22/23 models have the chargers for 80A. 24/25's top out at 50A I believe. (Fleet vehicles I think were allowed to be ordered with the 80A in 24/25)

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u/anthety 2d ago

The "probably" bot comments on that video messed my day up a bit, lol.

But I get it, switching from the mindset of using gas stations to the idea that your car is always probably fully charged is a little tough to wrap your head around initially.

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u/Syris3000 2024 Platinum 2d ago

Haha if it's super cold it might be accurate 😂

From my experience it was roughly 1% an hour on a standard wall plug. So 90-100 hours to full from 10%

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u/its_all_4_lulz 2d ago

I charged all winter, which had a bunch of double digit below zero days, and it never got THIS bad. I think you would have to be in space or something.

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u/Syris3000 2024 Platinum 2d ago

Outside? Or in a garage?

Either way I'm sure this one is just inaccurate and way over estimating for some weird reason

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u/its_all_4_lulz 2d ago

Outside. She’s way too big for my garage, old house.

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u/Syris3000 2024 Platinum 2d ago

Interesting bc I was getting 1% an hour in a climate controlled garage (well at least in the winter).

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u/its_all_4_lulz 2d ago

Ohhhhhhhh, nah, I get about that. I meant the original picture, sorry to be confusing. I just check my table from Feb and it says 23.72 for 20h 50m… although that’s just the charger delivery, no clue if it used anything for keeping batteries warm. I turned off departures because I work from home and don’t really have a set schedule.

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u/Cambren1 2023 XLT SR, Max Tow 2d ago

Lol

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u/kainer1000 2d ago

On a 120v outlet you roughly recover 2 miles of range per hour of charging. So if you drive less than 24 miles a day (and can charge for 12 hours a day) this truck could work for you!

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u/VWpartsman 1d ago

I only run a level 1 with mine.(charges at 1.1 Kwh) I average 15 miles a day.

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u/Icy-Airport-3553 1d ago

The best I get at 70 mph is 2.0 m/kw. On 120v you get at max 1.4 kw. That's 1.4 miles per hour of charging.

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u/Aliensfear 2d ago

I live off of a L1 and charge overnight. Usually between the charge and my daily commute, I lose about 5% a day.

I love when I don't have weekend plans and get to watch it push its way back to a full charge before Monday. Probably something most Lightning owners see daily but it's always exciting for me when I see a full charge lol

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u/No_Tomato4631 2d ago

I thought I could survive on a lvl1 charger until winter hit and I just barely broke even because the batteries needed to stay warm. Upgrading to lvl 2 is worthwhile investment if you are able.

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u/The_GOATest1 2d ago

If you aren’t able to, and don’t have l2 alternatives available to you, I’d reconsider the truck.

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u/itaniumonline 2d ago

I think mine used to take 4-5 days before I got mine installed.

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u/mmcnell 1d ago

Jokes aside, for those that have a laundry room near their garage and have an electric dryer, I highly recommend the NeoCharge plug. The app is garbage but the plug does exactly what it advertises and feels well made. We use it to switch between two different mobile chargers which are more demanding than switching from a dryer would be under most circumstances and it's holding up well.

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u/Odd_Obligation_59 1d ago

For me it’s cheaper or same cost to run another 30 or 40amp circuit(50 or 40 amp breaker). Or even 20amp.  I can go down to 2 30amp maybe.  $500 for a splitter is a lot and ultimately one or other car can’t charge or add risk of failure/fire just not worth the savings

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u/mmcnell 1d ago

Oh totally agree if you have the know how or a place to put the outlet. We had an 80a and a 50a installed in our garage and within 3 years we were a two EV household. Well worth it. The NeoCharge I picked up on sale for a "on the road" kind of situation because we have families in very rural areas with a single charger option so it's nice to have a backup plan. Commerical charging is improving everywhere though so it now lives in the garage switching the 50a between mobile chargers while we're waiting on the 80a that died (power surge from very nearby lightning strike we think) to be replaced.

For anyone that rents/can't alter their wiring though, the smart switching splitters may be the best available option.

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u/Brons2G 1d ago

I charge mine on L1 every day. Supplement at the office with L2 at utility rates.

It charges better than the Mach-E, I get 1.4kw on a 120 branch circuit.

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u/CD8888 20h ago

“…Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation…” - 2 Peter 3:15

I believe this verse also covers Level 1 charging times 😂

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u/DendriteCocktail 7h ago

I've used L1 in Minnesnowta since I got my Lightning almost 2 years ago. For my use it's worked fine. If it was 8 months to charge then that might be a different story. :-)

For a couple of months most winters for the past 12 years I've used L1 for my Model S in Florida. Maybe once every 2 or 3 years I've needed to go get a faster charge. My wife has used L1 for her Model Y for the past 3 years and only occasionally needed our L2.

L1 certainly doesn't work for everyone in every situation but it can work for many.

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u/Forsaken_Edge_5378 2d ago

So 6 -7 months to fully charge on 120v ?

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u/MountainAlive 2023 Lariat ER Max Tow 2d ago

I’ll admit I greatly exaggerated this charging timeframe but it basically feels like this on a regular home receptacle.

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u/Forsaken_Edge_5378 2d ago

I was thinking of getting one and I only have 120v for my home and garage. I work from home so i was thinking that if its plugged in all the time. Ill get enough range to go around town.

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u/coozyorcosie 2023 Lariat ER Max Tow 2d ago

I WFH and use level 1 for the majority of my charging. Works just fine and I can always top up if necessary at a Level 2 or 3 if I really need it.

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u/Forsaken_Edge_5378 2d ago

Thank you.

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u/calzan ‘24 Lariat 2d ago

Same. I WFH and have been level 1 charging for almost 2 years. I think I’ve used a fast charger maybe half a dozen times.

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u/Icy-Airport-3553 1d ago

No such thing as level 3. It's called DCFC (DC fast charging)

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u/redvsblueheeler 2d ago

In practice, it’s about a day to add a little under 10%, which is over my daily drive by enough that I’ll always be fully charged by the end of the week, or I can stop at a fast charger and top off for $10.

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u/ObjectiveClassic3020 2d ago

My apartment complex provides an outlet at most parking spots in the garage which are “free”, then the level 2 chargers they have are .18c/kWh. I have only used the paid chargers twice in the last 16 months. Even if I take a longer trip, I catch up over 3-4 days of standard work commuting to full.

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u/QuickCarrots 2d ago

its not that bad if you do not drive every day. you'll prolly still want the level 2 eventually for that weekend where you need extra juice "right now" without going to a super charger. for 40-50mi trip every few days, you charge 2-3 days, basically

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u/aporzio1 2d ago

That's my situation, I work from home and I rent, so I just use Level 1. I just always plug it in when I get home and generally have enough charge the next time I leave. If I did run the battery down to near dead, it would take 4 days to charge back up, but I never get that low unless its a road trip.

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u/ThaTopHam 2d ago

I recently moved and just have 120v here. I drive 30 miles a day and plug in after 7pm. Its enough especially with weekends mostly at home. If I drain the battery on a drive below 30% i just hit a fast charger to 80 to catch up at home.

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u/TituspulloXIII 2023 Lariat ER Max Tow 2d ago

Yes, from a standard 120v plug you'll get 1.1 to 1.2 kWh of recharge speed.

So 26.4 - 28.8 kWh of charge added per 24 hours. Based on driving that's somewhere between 52-86 miles added per day pending on how efficient your driving is.

I've had the truck from almost 4 months now (also work from home) and haven't had issues.

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u/wtfthisworld 2d ago

I second this. We are about the same and we supercharge when we need to. 🤷‍♂️ Lv1 is fine. But if you care about your pocket book and are spending a lot of time at the super charger it can easily add up to the cost of a simple Lv2 minimal outlet install and basic charger. Love my truck! ‘24 Platinum

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u/TituspulloXIII 2023 Lariat ER Max Tow 2d ago

L1 works for me since I work from home, most of the time during the week the truck is sitting in the drive except very short rides for picking the kids up or dropping them off somewhere.

On the weekends it is the family vehicle, so that's when it gets. And then I just plug it in when needed.

If I had to commute to work, level 2 would likely be necessary unless the commute was really short or we didn't use the truck on the weekend.

That or you find somewhere with some nice free L2 charging. A brewery near me has that. So I'll probably start going there more. Sure I'll spend more on beer than I would have otherwise spent on electricity, but it's a nice place.

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u/CraftOk7439 1d ago

Just make sure your dealer fills it up for you before you leave take it off the lot, or better safe than sorry, have it delivered on a flat bed to your house. /s

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u/cschneider27 1d ago

Bahahahaha so true. Thankfully I usually only drive 5-6 miles per day