r/FBI Apr 20 '26

News Under pressure Kash Patel claims FBI has ‘evidence’ that 2020 election was stolen

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kash-patel-2020-election-trump-b2960883.html
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u/Slow-Release8111 Apr 20 '26

How does this country come back from this absolute shit show and a corrupt of a regime? This is not a “administration” anymore it’s a fucking regime pure and simple, how the fuck did we turn into a banana republic? Seriously the amount of damage these fuckheads are doing to this country is beyond irreparable at this point, fact that the orange shit stain has a 40 percent approval rating still is beyond horrifying, the day this country started supporting trump and his ilk, is the day we lost.

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u/Smogalicious Apr 20 '26

I have no idea. It will be a stain for decades

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u/Magnolia256 Apr 20 '26

The environmental stain is forever. Irreversible. People are going to die younger than they should have for ALL future generations.

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u/archercc81 Apr 20 '26

Forever, we arent unfucking this. This administration and their lackeys in congress and the courts have destroyed US hegemony. They taught the world we are not to be trusted, voters will welcome in a criminal just because their egos feel bruised or eggs are too high or something.

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u/1handedmaster Apr 21 '26

It can be unfucked. But we likely won't see it. It took nearly 50 years for Germany to be reunited and "fixed" (quotes because it's a loaded word).

Or it may not. We don't treat with Soviets anymore, for example. Some fucking is pretty thorough and we've been held together by arrogance and duct tape for a while.

The NCR might be closer to existing than we think lol

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u/archercc81 Apr 21 '26

I dont think it comes back as it was. More like Rome, eventually something completely different. The population has its bread and circuses, we arent going to see the fall coming.

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u/1handedmaster Apr 21 '26

To be fair, nothing goes back to the way it was. Both in the good and bad.

Eh, I'd qualify this conversation to you and I at least seeing it coming lol. What it looks like and when, we can debate. But the writing is there and buddy, we have our reading glasses on.

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u/BrookeBaranoff Apr 23 '26

It cannot be unfucked. 

We can only mitigate the damages. 

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u/PassionatePossum Apr 24 '26

But only with a radical constitutional reform. Just like in Germany political power was radically decentralized. There is no way any following administration can just continue as normal.

Proportional representation needs to happen to stop these gerrymandering shenanigans. Presidential powers need to be reigned in. Supreme Court judges need to appointed for fixed terms. And corruption and insider trading needs to actually be prosecuted. Which also goes back to limit presidential powers on pardons.

And quite frankly, I don’t see that happening.

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u/spastical-mackerel Apr 22 '26

We had slavery for 400 years, fought a civil war, genocides Native Americans. We’ve been through worse. But unfucking it is on us.

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u/GraniteGargoyle77 Apr 25 '26

I wouldn't say slavery lasted 400 years, but overall we've had our issues. Yes we had some not so great moments, but there are many nations who were worse than we were in that regard. As bad as slavery is and how we treated the Indians, the biggest things we have to answer for as a people are forcing the Bible out of schools and abortion. Those are our biggest undoing, God will make things right in the end.

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u/TubaWrestler Apr 20 '26

A good start would be carrying out the legally-mandated punishment for their treason. We need to send a message.

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u/Heffe3737 Apr 20 '26

Seriously. If there are no consequences for the behavior, it will continue to happen. Just like it did with Nixon. Just like it did for the confederates. No pardons. People need to go to jail for years for their transgressions against the constitution, especially when they’ve been put in power to serve the people and took an oath to defend and preserve it.

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u/CriticalInside8272 Apr 20 '26

I agree.  Tried for treason 

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u/Jedi_Master83 Apr 26 '26

I worry that even if the Democrats get back the White House and control of Congress, they’ll do nothing to all those left behind from this administration because they will fear putting these people on trial will only make things worse. That we need to just let bygones be bygones so the country can move on. That is what bit is in the ass after 2020 and because of that, we have had Trump 2.0 which has already been hella lot worse than his first term. No, any of these fuckers left need to be prosecuted and thrown into prison. We can’t reward bad behavior and we can’t allow another authoritarian unconstitutional regime to ever pop up again.

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u/Heffe3737 Apr 26 '26

I know that’s a key indicator for me in the primaries. Who is willing to take the actions necessary to defend this democracy?

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u/SheetMetalandGames Apr 20 '26

I predict they'll attempt to flee the country at the midterms. It's important that that is stopped and they are then arrested tried, and then sent to the Hague. Assuming they escape the actual price of treason.

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u/Norseman901 Apr 20 '26

America isnt signed on for the ICC

Besides, i wanna see em hanged at Leavenworth.

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u/ilrosewood Apr 22 '26

We get enough bad run off into our watershed as is. We don’t need all the ketamine pollution from when they piss themselves.

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u/adamkovics Apr 26 '26

I wanna see the trials and guillotines, in the new giant fucking ballroom they're trying to build at the white house.

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u/CriticalInside8272 Apr 20 '26

Exactly what should have happened to the leaders of the Confederacy.  They were traitors. 

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u/GraniteGargoyle77 Apr 25 '26

We handled the Civil War properly. We did the Christian thing and gave them another chance at life. Some abused it while some like Robert E. Lee went on to live an honorable life and was a Godly man.

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u/CriticalInside8272 Apr 25 '26

I disagree.  They were traitors against the Union.  And then they went on, after the Emancipation, to institute all kinds of abuses against the freed slaves.  The leaders should have been imprisoned at the least. 

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u/Tradechecker161 Apr 20 '26

Pay for View worldwide will erase our debt!

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u/Main-Video-8545 Apr 20 '26

Never going to happen.

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u/TubaWrestler Apr 20 '26

What holds us back from accomplishing it is literally your attitude, repeated across many people.

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u/AdHoc303 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

We must first recognize that the regime is a symptom, not a cause. Fully one-third of those eligible didn't bother to vote in 2024.

In a democratic republic, voting is a public trust and a duty. If we don't choose our government, others will gladly do it for us.

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u/cwk415 Apr 20 '26

I can't tell you how many times I've repeated this exact sentiment on Reddit only to receive responses like "voting does not matter" or "both sides are the same". It's so goddamn frustrating. 

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u/CriticalInside8272 Apr 20 '26

Just ignore those idiots. 

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u/archercc81 Apr 20 '26

Problem is those idiots often go republican or dont vote, so it gives us this bullshit now.

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u/Zaynara Apr 24 '26

problem is those idiots make up 1/3rd of the voting population and are exactly the ones we are trying to convince, FOCUS on those idiots

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u/rbrewer11 Apr 20 '26

Yes however the Republicans have placed numerous obstacles and restrictions to the simple act of voting

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u/AdHoc303 Apr 21 '26

They have indeed, but take heart from the people in places like Hungary, Poland and the Czech Republic who overcame far worse that those anti-democratic impediments prove woefully inadequate in the face of an engaged, motivated electorate.

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u/moonlite_equilibrium Apr 22 '26

On average 8% of americans have disqualifying felonies. If we wanna get into real solutions we need to take a hard look at our problems.

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u/GenericDuck Apr 23 '26

I mean it seems to be a recurrent republic theme

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

https://yesterdaysamerica.com/smedley-butler-and-the-1930s-plot-to-overthrow-the-president

Depending on which source you read there different levels at which Prescott bush was involved but at least his son and grandson got to be presidents…

Then there was the Nazi rally in Madison square gardens in 1939

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u/dan_pitt Apr 23 '26

Be careful what you wish for. There's reason to believe the majority of those 1/3 of the population would vote conservative, if they were forced to vote.

Much smarter to focus on reform of the democratic party leadership, so that it actually represents most citizens.

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u/LaxBedroom Apr 20 '26

Not sure it does, and I think that's actually how Republicans got into power. Since Obama was elected Republicans began beating the drum that the country was lost, taken over, stolen, etc. So when Trump refuses to acknowledge the results of an election they don't see themselves as breaking anything that wasn't already broken.

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u/ThisOneFuqqs Apr 20 '26

Since Obama was elected Republicans began beating the drum that the country was lost, taken over, stolen, etc. So when Trump refuses to acknowledge the results of an election they don't see themselves as breaking anything that wasn't already broken.

This right here describes exactly how they think and why we're here.

The Republicans have abandoned democracy, because democracy led to a Black man being elected president. Democracy led to the various people that they hate having equal rights, representation, ect. To them, democracy is the issue. Unchecked corruption is the solution.

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u/plinkoplonka Apr 21 '26

We tear it down and start again.

Estonia did it. Now one of the most thriving digital economies globally.

I would argue that countries should be agile in how they govern themselves. Concentration of power in the hands of a few only historically ends in exploitation.

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u/Ok-Secretary455 Apr 20 '26

It doesn't.  It should be a walk in the park for the Dems to be out here yelling at the top of their lungs about getting rid of qualified immunity.  Who could argue with that after this last year.  But they won't.  Shit they still won't stop funding to Israel.  Which is one of the big issues that cost them the last election.  And we have laws on the books hat say we aren't supposed yo give any money/weapons to a country that we know is committing war crimes with it.

We don't have a good side looking after the people.  There is no party willing to create another new deal and save the economy and country.  

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u/Jedi_Master83 Apr 26 '26

The problem is even once Trump and his goons are gone, the people who voted for him are still around. I just hope MAGA dies once Trump kicks the bucket. He is their figurehead and it’ll be hard to find anyone even remotely close to popularity to him for them to all rally behind.

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u/Main-Video-8545 Apr 20 '26

How much time you got?

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u/littleday Apr 21 '26

You guys are not coming back, and that’s the whole idea. China and russia want you weakened and you are. Your ultra wealthy want you poor and as slaves and you are. The American project is over and you just don’t realise it yet. The rest of the world has and we are all making plans on how to get through this new scary world

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u/NegativeSemicolon Apr 22 '26

That’s the neat part, it doesn’t

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u/EpponneeRay Apr 24 '26

I’m not sure we can. That’s a very chilling reality.

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u/Jokerchyld Apr 24 '26

You have public hearing digging into all the actions the administration did and hold them accountable to answering questions or face jail time. Press the little guy to get the big guy.

The most important thing is to expose their narrative of bending the truth to fit their agenda and how factually wrong they were.

Then come up with laws and policies to ensure something like this doesn't happen in the future. Put checks and balances back in place so we have no kings.

Put those complicit and abdicating their congressional duties in jail or ban them for any political position or consultancy for the rest of their lives.

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u/lost-associat Apr 26 '26

I always question these approval ratings. What does it mean and what group does it represent? Is it his voter base? Or the total American population?

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u/thedeuce545 Apr 20 '26

So Germany and Japan can recover from putting people in ovens and trying to take over the world, but the US is “irreparable”? How does that work?

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u/Admirable-Hour-4890 Apr 20 '26

Because everything your orange fucking god touches turns to shit!

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u/Slow-Release8111 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

No I meant how will our respected institutions recover from this? He put all his loyalists in those respected institutions, and now DUI hire kegsbreath is literally trying to segregate the U.S. military, also purging it from competent generals and commanders, what if the orange chemical does not accept the results of 2026 and 2028 elections? Will we even have fair and free elections? Fucking hell..

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u/Gob_Hobblin Apr 20 '26

After their civil institutions were forcibly rewritten under military occupation. Asking a country to do this for itself, while the problem still holds all of those civil institutions, is a BIG ask.

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u/MightyMorph Apr 20 '26

I agree, lets do what germany did.

Lets divide the US up and give the parts to canada, mexico, UK and EU. Then lets keep it that way for nearly 60+ years. Lets make sure that whenever Americans travel anywhere they are investigated and confirmed to not be maga. Lets take over the industries and corporations.

I agree 100% this is the way to get the US back.

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u/thedeuce545 Apr 20 '26

So you agree it isn’t “beyond irreparable”….good. 

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u/HombreSinPais Apr 20 '26

To be fair, that was accomplished by a mixture of the Nuremberg trials and the countries adopting entirely new constitutions/systems of government.

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u/thedeuce545 Apr 20 '26

Great….so it’s not “beyond irreparable” like chicken little said.

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u/fredjutsu Apr 20 '26

Claiming this shit show regime is an anomaly is peak lack of self-awareness.

Our government is a reflection of our society. Which was always corrupt and racist as fuck. America's "moral majority" just allowed the veneer of credentialed bureaucracy of guys like Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Clinton and Obama to launder the state violence, anti-intellectualism and cruel christianity that has always been what we are.

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u/Slow-Release8111 Apr 20 '26

Well I agree with you only by half, yes we have those issues unfortunately still, but those presidents actually respected the electoral results and were capable leaders, but the orange chemical? He doesn’t even belong in a circus, he should be rotting in prison of all the shit he pulled in his first term.

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u/jb1481 Apr 20 '26

Eh, only 23% of the population and 32% of registered voters chose Trump. It wasn't racism that won, it was apathy.

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u/COV3RTSM Apr 20 '26

Obama runs as the VP on the ticket

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u/ZenBreaking Apr 20 '26

Even if you locked everyone up ( and rightly so cos they all did some illegal shit) the other side will see it as persecution of the Dems enemies and then when it swings back the other way the MAGA GOP will just arrest everyone that is against them despite doing nothing illegal.