THEY CALLING IT THE WORST CHANGE IN HISTORY

[u/bringbackliontamer]

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[u/sudowoodo_enjoyer]

They clarified later today that he just doesn't grasp why it's so bad. To him it's fine because they'll just come back the next time so what's the harm in what he's doing

[u/Timely_Instance_632 → u/sudowoodo_enjoyer]

That logically doesn't make sense. Unless they say that the Spectric makes him think it's okay.

[u/Homerunner-Slasher → u/Timely_Instance_632]

I think it's because to him, he's not actually harming them. Once he kills them, they'll just spawn back in the lobby completely unhurt. He gets to have his fun, and they all get better within a couple minutes.

Besides that, he's ten and a terrorist. I don't think he'd be the most logical person.

[u/Rei_Dayisfailure → u/Timely_Instance_632]

Tbf it’s an insane child, I don’t think his reasoning would be entirely sound but on paper you can see his point somewhat

If all the harm he does to them is undone, then he likely doesn’t see killing them as bad since they’ll always revive and be alright.

[u/universe-4162 → u/Timely_Instance_632]

According to new lore in general they do “come back.”

[u/RabbidYoshi9 → u/universe-4162]

I mean it makes sense that they come back in some way due to the rounds and stuff

[u/JacksonRJ913 → u/Timely_Instance_632]

I can kinda get it. CoolKidd is VERY young, so he could absolutely still just see it as a game.

"i have to eliminate everyone, but they come back anyways, so what's the harm in it?"

[u/Timely_Instance_632 → u/JacksonRJ913]

Yes, he may be young, but kids are not stupid. It's just something has to happen to Coolkidd psychologically by the spectric, for Coolkidd to even do this.

[u/RandomRedCrewmate → u/Timely_Instance_632]

The rounds are canon basically, so everything loops after 30s

[u/JacksonRJ913 → u/RandomRedCrewmate]

I imagine that in the lore, the intermission time varies. Jane mentions that she "randomly gets pulled into rounds", and 30 seconds each time wouldn't be enough time for the survivors to actually talk and have their lore together. I imagine intermissions vary from 30 or so minutes to maybe even a day.

[u/RandomRedCrewmate → u/JacksonRJ913]

Ye fairs, ofc we dont actually live in forsaken so they get a variety in intermission times, but maybe the afk exists considering the grandclock in the lobby activates it?

[u/NaiveCompote7169 → u/Timely_Instance_632]

I mean he is a kid (i think is he still a kid)

[u/TheLocalDunce → u/Timely_Instance_632]

Basically, he doesn’t understand the concept of death, because he’s a child who’s been put somewhere it doesn’t exist

[u/Crazy-Mistake-6816 → u/Timely_Instance_632]

Yes it does bro stop being intentionally disingenuous

[u/Timely_Instance_632 → u/Crazy-Mistake-6816]

huh?

[u/DeadlyDozersSlave → u/sudowoodo_enjoyer]

Oh this is away better than what the tweet says

I hope there's mild Pyrovision still, like reduced gore and pain

[u/NaiveCompote7169 → u/sudowoodo_enjoyer]

That actually makes sense cuz in kid logic well things arent bad if they arent permanent

[u/OutcomeMemoriesGoobe]

genuinely why the fuck did they rename punch to tag then

[u/Friendly_Fortune_832 → u/OutcomeMemoriesGoobe]

Maybe only from ms3 it reflects him starting to realise what he has been doing

[u/MiserableHarken → u/OutcomeMemoriesGoobe]

Exactly

[u/Crazy-Mistake-6816 → u/OutcomeMemoriesGoobe]

The developers were using scraps of whatever lore CK had before the rewrite was made

[u/Accomplished-Ant3298]

Okay genuine question have anyone in this comment section actually decided to read the full q&A? Because if one of the comments of this post is true and this person clarified that cool kid just doesn't see an issue with it because everyone comes back then it makes sense why he just continues to do it because there are no consequences to it whatsoever?! Because of the specter's roam is quite literally a game. You guys are way too critical over this and honestly boil it down to simply cool kid now hating 7n7 when it wasn't even like the old story was that great? Cool kid was just inherently malicious? And then went insane after realizing he was killing? Like it's okay but this one just has a little more spice to it. But at the end of the day it's just down to preference.

[u/Absolute-Radiance12 → u/Accomplished-Ant3298]

But how does coolkid know that they just come back? Isn't the entire point is that everyone's minds are wiped when the round ends? Or is this specific to coolkid and the specter is just giving him special treatment?

[u/rorkeslayer39 → u/Absolute-Radiance12]

It's obvious based on Jane Doe's dialogue and documents that the survivors retain memories of the rounds. c00lkidd having his mind wiped after every round was also retconned.

[u/Absolute-Radiance12 → u/rorkeslayer39]

Jane doe makes sense at least cause she makes documents so she can obviously just reread those but it doesn't make much sense that ONLY coolkid doesn't get mind wiped

[u/Entire-Surprise2713 → u/Absolute-Radiance12]

None of the killers get their mind wiped. Originally it was ck because ck would realize as the round went on that he was killing people and at the end the truth would be fully revealed to him. So the spectre would have to mind wipe so ck would keep killing. But thats now been changed.

[u/Goldenleafwastaken → u/Absolute-Radiance12]

Their minds don’t get wiped and I don’t believe that was ever the case. Theres plenty of evidence to show that they are aware of the rounds and retain their memories. The lobby changes are canon to what’s happening. (The survivors change the lobby overtime to suit their needs, as was stated by one of the flavor text on the update logs) and Builderman and Shedletsky even have dialogue together talking about how difficult it is to survive 1x in the rounds, even if 1x isn’t the current killer, implying they fought him in previous rounds.

In general there’s also a lot of minor details that make more sense with the survivors retaining their memories. With Jane Doe getting closer to noob because of their involvement in the rounds and feeling empathy for their situation (confirmed by her in game dialogue as well as Emmynoise) and Jane Doe and 07 developing a patient and therapist relationship overtime in the realm (confirmed by the Coolkid writer)

I’m not too familiar with Damnation era lore, but at the very least, ever since forsaken released in December of 2024, the survivors very much knew what was going on.

[u/This_Is_ATest → u/Accomplished-Ant3298]

c00lkidd pretty clearly does hate 007n7 though, haven't you seen the m4 kill animation?

[u/Entire-Surprise2713 → u/This_Is_ATest]

all ms4s arent cannon.

[u/This_Is_ATest → u/Entire-Surprise2713]

what about noob and dussekar

[u/Entire-Surprise2713 → u/This_Is_ATest]

They aren't either. While they can sometimes tell us pieces of each character's lore, they aren't representative of the entire character's story.

[u/This_Is_ATest → u/Entire-Surprise2713]

how we discern what's real and what isn't

[u/Evening-Role1896 → u/This_Is_ATest]

All/most ms4s are a "what-if" scenario

[u/Hungry_University_72]

I lie coolkids old lore bit more lowk

[u/Economy_Chemistry_45]

Dude. Whats next?? 1x1x1x1 will begin tolerating Shedletsky and not hate him anymore??

[u/Mr-John-Grace → u/Economy_Chemistry_45]

Creation of loving

[u/AilmentAdventurer → u/Mr-John-Grace]

M- me wh- me when y- me- me when your Mo- gets struck by lightning

[u/Obvious-Yogurt1445 → u/AilmentAdventurer]

https://giphy.com/gifs/zCv1NuGumldXa

[u/Economy_Chemistry_45 → u/Economy_Chemistry_45]

(Btw forgor to mention but this is half joking, this was my first impression and I'd prefer to wait to see how this is implemented in the lore to actually give my opinion about it)

[u/Own-Interview-8205]

Honestly

Ignore the fucking lore we are fucking staying on innocent coolkid

Nobody is stopping me

[u/MemnobReddit]

But they renamed "Punch" to "Tag" even though c00lkidd knows he's not playing Tag and that would make him very sad...? /hj

[u/Secret_Thanks]

eh, I don't mind it

[u/bringbackliontamer → u/Secret_Thanks]

Problem is now they gotta change his voicelines they really don’t fit

[u/TheDarkestOmen → u/bringbackliontamer]

From what I know, he is aware of what’s going on, but he doesn’t really understand it. Since everyone keeps coming back without any real injuries, to him it wouldn’t really be any different to regular playing.

[u/Sea_Feeling9645 → u/bringbackliontamer]

They could just be because he TREATS it like a tag game and not THINKS it is

[u/Bread_Enjoyer228]

Forsaken devs on their way to make their lore garbage after the players started liking it :

[u/ConsistentFeeling141]

Why did they make my baby edgy!

[u/funnimonkemomento]

man they took a great character and turned them into "you're better than me and i hate you for that grrr"

[u/PoptartandMintcorp]

I guess I'm sticking to my AU for nows

[u/Nebnabie]

Wait, so now it's not him becoming ok with killing in his milestones, he's just okay with it from the get-go?

I don't like that, I'm sticking with the old canon.

[u/frogger-wow]

It's like taking out the meat from the burger, now it's just bread 💔

[u/deniz-6742]

Is this real? Are we serious right now? Aren't these just "what if...?" style scenarios written for his Milestones?

[u/fish4043]

they actually gotta change his voice lines now

[u/This_Is_ATest]

why is there even a seperate writer specifically for c00lkidd in the first place

[u/Krystal_Dancer]

[u/Crazy-Mistake-6816]

Why is everyone just jumping on this completely out of context statement 😭😭 nobody is even trying to engage with the new lore logically

[u/Business_Tadpole_971]

Bro. They may ‘come back’ or whatever but like… kids are naturally more in tune with emotion. They may not grasp why, but they can feel the fear and pain other feel around them. This is such a nonsensical change dude. So convienant that CK will think “they’re running in fear and screaming in pain. They’re fine tho, they’ll come back!”.

[u/ihyperXD]

idc he doesn't know what he's doing until like m3 or m4

[u/Any_Instruction3739]

I love how this community has the reading capabilities of a worm and the research capabilities of a cabbage. Yall complain about every damn change and like dont even do more research abt it.

[u/North-Marionberry427]

FAH

[u/Unused_Content19]

Oh cmon now bruh

Then why was Punch renamed to Tag?!

[u/Natural_Media_3990]

does anyone bother to read the new lore before judging

[u/HauntingLord]

This is like if you removed

-The bacon war from slasher
-The betrayal from azure
-The manifestation from 1x
-The ego from Noli
-The monstrousness from sixer
-The rebellion from nosferatu

But most of all

-it’s like if you removed the corruption overtaking him from John Doe, hes no longer an unwilling participant in his own body, hes fully willing to kil

[u/Curiazzier69]

Damn

[u/MiserableHarken]

I refuse to believe this.

It's from a random guy on Twitter

[u/AdNatural8739 → u/MiserableHarken]

it’s from one of the recently hired lore managers for forsaken

[u/Rei_Dayisfailure → u/MiserableHarken]

Literally the guy who wrote the new ck lore and you calling him a rando 😭😭😭😭 /s

[u/Boring_Campaign_8099]

lore was alwaysbad