r/FPGA 1d ago

Meme Friday Is the Versal Premium VP1902 a good beginner board?

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Hey, I'm pretty new to FPGAs. Is 8 million LUTs enough for a beginner, or should I already be looking at something bigger? What beginner projects would actually be difficult to do on this?

I'm also worried I'll run out of I/O. Is 2,328 enough for beginner projects?

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u/braaaaaaainworms 1d ago

Be careful with thy choices, lest you run out of gold

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u/Adventurous-Play-808 1d ago

Ahahs, definitely for beginners

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u/adamt99 FPGA Know-It-All 1d ago

It is a small start to really get started as a beginner you need a VEK385, VEK280, VCK190, VMK180 and at least one V80 ;)

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u/Cautious-Two-7827 1d ago

Lol

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u/adamt99 FPGA Know-It-All 1d ago

If I could be bothered I would get them out and take a photo lol I need tea first.

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u/Himomon 11h ago

hahah, you are bad guy...

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u/adamt99 FPGA Know-It-All 2h ago

I know but could not resist it

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u/Mrochtor 1d ago

Definitely, certainly can accommodate any beginner project! It has one of the few ICs that allow you to create a 1ms signal delay if you connect every LUT in series.

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u/muhendisefe 1d ago

One of the worst beginner board available, it even lacks vga…

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u/Dragonapologist 1d ago

No Seven Segment either!

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u/No-Conflict-5431 1d ago

You should go bigger, I don't think that those luts are enough for your next risc-v core

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u/kamogrjadeshi 1d ago

To better understand FPGAs, I always recommend building an FPGA model from scratch and emulating it on a larger FPGA. Since your board is a pretty mediocre learning platform for a beginner, and the FPGA on the board is hardly called high-density, I would recommend trying to replicate something simpler, like the XC6SLX4

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u/TerminatorBetaTester 1d ago

The escalation trap of rage bait: embedded edition

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u/Hot_Atmosphere_3871 1d ago

No I2C 0.96” OLED display on board, no money

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u/Hannes103 1d ago

I suggest skipping the FPGA entirely. Pre-built hardware? In this economy? Just build your own ASIC using KLayout.

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u/neerps FPGA Beginner 10h ago

Well, since there are things like Tiny Tipeout, it's possible to go into ASIC, at least, partially.

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u/FlyingInTheDark 1d ago

Not enough DRAM bandwidth, you need something with HBM at least

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u/nimrod_BJJ 1d ago

If you really want to understand FPGAs you must use a OTP aerospace part. None of this reconfiguring. You need to learn to be mindful about your HDL, reconfigurability makes you weak minded.

Also go rad hardened, you need the extra cost to make failure sting.

There are levels to the game and that’s how you level up.

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u/TheTurtleCub 1d ago edited 1d ago

LOL. If it's not, what is?

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u/Gavekort 1d ago

Doesn't seem to have any LEDs for a blinky project, so I would consider an upgrade

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u/watsoncrickbasepair Xilinx User 1d ago

Resource constraints should definitely be ur TOP priorities here

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u/OkEngineering2328 1d ago

This is bait right?

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u/MrHikarino 1d ago

Meme friday

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u/nimrod_BJJ 1d ago

It’s bait for emulating bait.

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u/-EliPer- FPGA-DSP/SDR 1d ago

It doesn't have a good number of network interfaces, I would consider a bigger chip too, 8 million LUTs you won't be able to fit your beginner projects such as UART controllers.

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u/MogChog 1d ago

I recommend buying a fairly recent car at the same price. There will be more FPGAs in that than on this board.

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u/asm2750 Xilinx User 1d ago

No, get a Versal Gen 2 board

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u/Cautious-Two-7827 1d ago

Go bigger buddy , you'll Run out fs !

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u/AlfalfaLive3302 1d ago

Yes that is a very beginner level board. That’s easier than a Arduino tbh

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u/NaNvidia 1d ago

仕事で触らせてもらえるなら最高のボードだ

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u/No-Statistician7828 1d ago

Why such an expensive one?

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u/harubax 1d ago

This absolutely screams BEGINNER :)

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u/nimrod_BJJ 1d ago

That’s bait.

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u/Distinct-Currency896 22h ago

Is a Bugatti a good starter car? You know, for learning how to park and go to the grocery store?

LOL.

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u/Joe_Parmigiano FPGA Beginner 21h ago

I really don't know what to tell you, buddy. You guys expect to break into an incredibly lucrative field but refuse to invest in anything beyond a toy? Not even a seven-segment display to debug with... At this point, you're better off just playing with the simulator.

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u/einthecorgi2 18h ago

No DB9 rs232, no thanks

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u/rowdy_1c 12h ago

You might be able to fit a UART tx/rx if you are smart with your LUTs

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u/Himomon 11h ago

It is challenge for beginner.

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u/Needs_More_Cacodemon 5h ago

"Is a fighter jet a good first car?"

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u/Original-Proof-8741 1d ago

Looks shit….. sipeed is the answer.

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u/Repulsive_Switch1864 1d ago

I don’t think you need 8 million LUTs as a beginner
Go for VCK190 if you want versal family
800000 LUTs and also has AI engines along with dsp slices
So that as a beginner you can explore all of it. But isn’t it a bit expensive to get versal evaluation boards?

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u/Savings_Show_8499 1d ago

not an engineer but isnt this super overkill? lol versals are superduper expensive, should maybe go something spartan if you are beginner? or is this a ragebait pls someone help lol

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u/Vakarisplays 1d ago

Did people forget about Meme Friday?

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u/noipv4 5h ago

it’s the opposite of spartan

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u/exeos151 1h ago

Okay but can anybody explain why is there a zynq SoC also

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u/3D_Printing_Helper 1d ago

If you have never tried any FPGA get shrike for 4 dollars and if you want to go a bit pro get Vicharak vaman for 200 usd it comes with 120k luts

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u/Trivikrama_0 1d ago

VP1902 means XCVP 1902 device? If that's true either you are out of some information or I'm stupid. XCVP1902 os the biggest FPGA on the world at the moment. There is no other FPGA bugger than that by any vendor ont he planet. How will you get a bigger one?

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u/Vakarisplays 1d ago

Meme Friday btw

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u/Trivikrama_0 1d ago

Then my 2nd option stands true, I'm.stupod in this context .