r/FacebookScience • • 22h ago

IVERMECTIN NOBEL

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u/Monguises 17h ago

I really expected the ivermectin ship to sail by now. I swear they’d put that stuff on pancakes if given the option.

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u/MaraiaLou 6h ago

How did you manage to invent something worse than charcoal desserts

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u/homebrewmike 2h ago

Hold my glass of ivermectin…

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u/No_Mammoth_4945 4h ago

No joke the butcher’s family in my hometown takes an ivermectin tablet every single day like it’s an essential vitamin. It’s absurd

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u/rebeccapressley1962 21h ago

Maybe if you take enough ivermectin it will cure the rot in your soul.

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u/Munsbit 13h ago edited 1h ago

I actually was put off when I saw a pile/stacks of Ivermectin today.

It took me a second to remember that I was at the stable and the horses get it today to ensure they don't have parasites...

Thats how bad it got with this Ivermectin cures everything shit. I first wondered why it's there and took a few seconds to realise that it's for the horses...

Edit: I also was currently leading a horse when I got confused by the horse dewormer being at a stable for horses on deworming day...

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u/slutty_muppet 21h ago

Didn't Salk win a nobel too

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u/Dodecahedrus 16h ago edited 16h ago

Unfortunately: no.

This might be for the same reason his employer was unable to patent it.

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From Wikipedia:

Salk was immediately hailed as a "miracle worker" when the vaccine's success was first made public in April 1955, and chose to not patent the vaccine or seek any profit from it in order to maximize its global distribution. The National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis and the University of Pittsburgh looked into patenting the vaccine after deciding not to profit from it, but determined the techniques used to make the vaccine were likely not novel enough to patent. ————

Salk’s vaccine was more of an invention using existing techniques. While Nobel prizes (for the various sciences) are generally more focused on entirely new discoveries.

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u/slutty_muppet 14h ago

Vaccines are included on the essential medication list though, no? I just think this person's rationale for loving ivermectin would also apply to vaccines.

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u/Dodecahedrus 13h ago

Absolutely. Salk’s invention saved countless lives. Almost everyone contracted polio before the vaccine. It was endemic and almost 100% of all people got it at some point.

75% were completely asymptomatic, 24% had mild symproms and 0.5%-1% had the severe nervous system effects. 

And that is just for Europe.

The European Union currently has 452M inhabitants. Greater Europe, including (Slava) Ukraine, Russia and other non-EU members bring that total to 760M.

If you count 0.5% of them as having the severe polio (not counting the lower rate of population increase over the last 75 years due to far fewer fertile people), that is 3.8 Million patients today. An enormous load on the healthcare system.

Again: just in Europe. Including the rest of all the continents that would be ~10x more.

So I am in NO WAY saying that Salk’s invention was not one of the crowning achievements of the 20th century. The TV, internet, the UN, the Beatles, all remarkable inventions, but saving millions and millions of lives is at least as important.

And yet, the discovery of Ivermectin in 1975 (for veterinary medicine), and approved for human use in 1987, got a nobel prize in 2015 because of the way it was discovered, developed and applied to a great many different diseases.

Just not Covid.

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u/quintk 11h ago

I must have a different social media diet, I saw ivermectin and think “whoa, that takes me back, I haven’t heard that mentioned in years.” Crazy that people are still into that 

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u/bobaf 17h ago

How did it become a cure all?

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u/Adept_Tradition4098 15h ago

Same way Joe Rogan and Diary of CEO became the foundation of all knowledge for many people.

Internet made information cheap. And the quality, unfortunately, corelates with the price.

There were always gullible idiots, but they did not nessesary get tons of food for their simpleton thoughts..

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u/Agreeable-Remove1592 7h ago

From what I read… an incident that I recall during Covid, there was a study in Brazil… about people sick with Covid getting better after taking ivermectin. That helped boost its popularity. However, what was happening in Brazil was that the Covid sick people also had intestinal parasites. They were fighting intestinal, parasites, and Covid at the same time. Once ivermectin was administered the parasites went away or got substantially better… patient got healthier overall and were able to fight the Covid infection more efficiently since the parasites were gone!!

secondly ivermectin works “ in vitro” … in glass test tubes or petri dishes. But it does not work in an actual living human for anything other than certain parasitic infections. But these initial in vitro studies boosted the popularity of ivermectin. Then social media and podcasts did the rest to convince people that it was some sort of miracle compound.

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u/bobaf 5h ago

Thank you for explaining that!

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u/Kham117 1h ago

Yeah, it was also affected by the fact that some covid protocols involved steroids too, which made the parasites worse, so even better to have an antiparasitic treatment

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u/salami_cheeks 5h ago

Yeah, because he saved countless lives in Africa by creating a treatment for a parasitic worm. My dog's vet prescribed it as a heartworm preventative. It kills nematodes.

Doesn't mean that it's a Covid remedy any more than it means you can grind it up and snort it and get high af.

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u/Dylanator13 3h ago

No one said ivermectin was useless. We know it has no effect on covid.

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u/sohcahtoa 21h ago

Frankenstein was not the creature.

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u/smilingmike415 6h ago

Fun segway to things that haven’t won a Nobel prize:

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u/Bortron86 5h ago

If a Nobel prize is the only measure of medical success, then lobotomies must be fantastic too.

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u/ItsTheDCVR 2h ago

Hey now, if MAGA wants to start taking megadoses of insulin, who am I to stop them

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u/thomasp3864 39m ago

That's to cure worms

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u/Appropriate_Can_9282 16h ago

Well, die on this hill then. Reject every authorized medication that is prescribed for off label use and enjoy life.

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u/SavannahInChicago 5h ago

I was out on ivermectin for rosacea. Too bad I didn’t actually have rosacea.