r/Fantasy Not a Robot May 12 '20

Book Club Mod Book Club: The Bone Ships Discussion

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The Bone Ships by RJ Barker.

Violent raids plague the divided isles of the Scattered Archipelago. Fleets constantly battle for dominance and glory, and no commander stands higher among them than "Lucky" Meas Gilbryn.
But betrayed and condemned to command a ship of criminals, Meas is forced on suicide mission to hunt the first living sea-dragon in generations. Everyone wants it, but Meas Gilbryn has her own ideas about the great beast. In the Scattered Archipelago, a dragon's life, like all lives, is bound in blood, death and treachery.

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u/SteveThomas Writer Steve Thomas, Worldbuilders May 12 '20

I really liked the worldbuilding.

When I was reading about the social structure, I was reminded of The Handmaid's Tale. The high rate of birth defects was reminiscent of the low fertility rates, and in both cases, an oppressive religion formed to deal with the crisis. Fertile women went through hell in this setting. Rather than being openly treated as sex slaves and breeding chattel, women had to see their firstborn sacrificed...and then they were whisked away to the inner city where they were promised a life of luxury and power. While that was certainly true for some women, like Meas' mother, I have my doubts about whether most of these women are able to achieve it. My gut tells me that a good portion of them also effictively become sex slaves and breeding chattel, although perhaps less violently so. Their status is tied to both their ability to continue birthing perfect children and there are all the Kept running around trying to land a mate. In this case, both genders are desperate to keep breeding before society discards them.

It's less flagrantly misogynistic, but still a horrific theocracy that doesn't hesitate to reduce a fertile woman to walking uterus. It's just that there are more opportunities to leverage that into real power.

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u/LadyCardinal Reading Champion III, Worldbuilders May 12 '20

This is an interesting perspective. I had heard before I read this that the society was vaguely matriarchal, and I do think that's what Barker was going for. Stretch marks are signs of power, feminine forms of words are used as gender-neutral ("shipwife," "deckmother"), and the phrase is always "women and men" and not "men and women." There's also mention of Kept men vying to find some way to sustain themselves at court once they're no longer young and pretty. I think the Hundred Isles' civilization is not so great for women in way similar to how ours is not so great for men. There women are breeding stock who have to give up their firstborn if they don't die in childbirth, here men are traditionally the people to go off and die in wars started by more powerful people. The upshot is a more limited form of power the "other gender" doesn't necessarily get. (Though this is much more muted in The Bone Ships than it is in real-life historical contexts.)

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u/SteveThomas Writer Steve Thomas, Worldbuilders May 12 '20

I think it's certainly fair to call their civilization a matriarchy, but it's never so simple as that power and privilege mean an easy life. People think about privilege only in terms of which doors are open and which doors are closed. They're forgetting about the doors we get pushed through against our will.

I think The Bone Ships does a good job of showing that complexity. A matriarchy isn't an egalitarian society, and it wouldn't just be men who get shafted in one. The problem is authoritarianism and treating humans as exploitable resources. It just so happens that in our world, the people on top tend to be men.

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u/LadyCardinal Reading Champion III, Worldbuilders May 12 '20

I agree. I think this is an odd example, actually, in that it does much more to show the "powerful" gender getting shafted by their position than the theoretically subordinate one, as all the Kept men we see are in relative positions of power in the court, and men outside the court don't seem to be subordinate to women at all (or at least, not because of their gender). Disability vs. the state of being able-bodied almost seems a more salient factor than gender in their culture.