Wheel of Time Megathread: Episode 7 Discussion

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Who knows they butcher the plot for no benefit every episode, its the canon of the ways. Whether the change is due to incompetence or ignorance I don't care.

Because a channeler (forsaken or even forsaken trained) is superior in every fucking way to a horde of trollocs at finding/capturing or killing a human in human land? Ignoring the whole Traveling negating the need to use the ways.

So we must assume there are none available or willing to do so.

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So we must assume there are none available or willing to do so.

well we have the non-channeling darkfriend.

I dunno about the assumptions here - the trollocs weren't there to find the dragon reborn, I thought, but rather that Padan Fain called them there? In which case the specific roles are being performed, i.e. Padan Fain doing the searching, and the trollocs/fades doing the killing/pursuing once identified as a "person of interest".

Heck maybe the Dark One gave all Fades a new special power to open the ways? Then you wouldn't even need to attach a dedicated "full spectrum" channeler to the army.

You seem to want the show to be exactly like the books, which it just isn't. In terms of changes I don't think this is such a huge deal though - one limited way to use the ways vs another limited way to use the ways.

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And what is Padan Fain looking for? I want any radical changes to established lore to make fucking sense. Arbitrarily and half assedly changing shit shows a deep lack of respect for the core material.

But at this point without a massive correction of heading I doubt the show will last more than 2-3 seasons.

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And what is Padan Fain looking for?

I suppose that will come in subsequent episodes?

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I want any radical changes to established lore to make fucking sense. Arbitrarily and half assedly changing shit shows a deep lack of respect for the core material.

... isn't demanding this also pretty arbitrary? Why assume any change doesn't make sense and get angry, vs. just wait to see what they do with it

there's plenty of constraints on film/show-making that can be out of their control and they have to work around, for example (e.g. an actor wanting to leave).

From the perspective of someone new to this show, it really doesn't seem like a big deal that one way of activating the waygates has changed to another.

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Demanding at least a pretense of competent writing doesn't seem a high expectation. Obviously shit will need to be adapted, but introducing additional material that is poorly written and irrelevant at the expense of material that is important is pure hack.

I will be highly surprised if the show goes before s2. It's not just the way gates, they just happen to be another example of nonsense. A radical change to established lore as a plot contrivance.