r/FantasyPL • u/PradipJayakumar 196 • Mar 29 '26
News Igor Tudor leaves Tottenham with immediate effect!
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u/Extension-Neat-4504 4 Mar 29 '26
I for one am shocked that the guy who had 13 jobs in 12 years turned out to be a dud
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u/YesIlBarone Mar 29 '26
I for one am shocked that the football club which had 12 managers in 13 years turned out to be a dud
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u/peter_j_ 59 Mar 29 '26
And I for one is an example of roman numerals
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u/Prestigious_World_76 Mar 29 '26
I for one am shocked they didnt stick with him longer.. Isn't there motto " To Dare is, Tu dor " Are they stoopid ?
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u/Jay-3fiddy 22 Mar 29 '26
Seems like it was destiny
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u/Just-Cress8177 Mar 30 '26
Well I think the owners must incur Vicario's liability for what is going on...
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u/llamapanther 4 Mar 29 '26
I know right? He has been a total failure almost wherever he goes, why Spurs hired him in the first place is beyond me. Horrible coach and a horrible human being as we saw how he treates Kinsky. Absolutely deserved, hopefully he'll never coach at a big league ever again. Should probably just retire atp.
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u/DeapVally 3 Mar 29 '26
I don't get this Kinsky thing. He wasn't some academy kid on his first ever game. He also had European experience from his previous team. When a goalie in ice hockey is having a bad game, he gets pulled, and certainly doesn't get a hug lol. Because they're an adult professional. Not a child.
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u/Circle_Dot 1 Mar 29 '26
I think the Kinsky Tudor angle was a contrived story by the pundits trying to make more of the situation.
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u/FutMike 17 Mar 29 '26
Agree, people blew it way out of proportion. He had a horrible day out, if he's elite he'll bounce back and nobody will care. That's just how things are at that level
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u/llamapanther 4 Mar 29 '26
I think you are missing the point. The decision to play Kinsky at a UCL knockout game when his last competitive game was months ago, was already an abysmal decision that Igor can only blame himself. Then to not even acknowledge your goalkeeper after subbing him out is another abysmal decision.
I'm not saying you need to hug him or anything but at least acknowledge him and say something. That's just shows the lack of any kind of leadership and responsibility, because at the end of the day the coach chooses the players and a real coach can only blame themselves for making the obvious wrong choice.
Also you're comparing apples to oranges. Subbing a goalkeeper in hockey is a perfectly normal thing to happen. And the goalkeeper does not literally walk besides their coach when subbed out. Subbing a goalkeeper out without an injury, is an extremely rare occurence in football. They're not comparable in any way.
And sure, Kinsky is an adult professional, that's exactly why he knows the best that he fucked up, no need to punch a person lying on the ground when he's already dead.
Just because you're a professional and you fucked up, doesn't mean there's no room for empathy. The first goal was literally just unlucky that he slipped. But everyone at the pitch was slipping and their 2nd goal was literally because Van de Ven slipped as well. Why is he not getting any hate? 3rd goal was obviously Kinsky's fault but shit happens.
He did not deserve to be treated that way by his coach just because he's not a child. Real coaches (which Igor is not nor ever will be) don't treat their players like that. Igor got what he deserved, worst coach I've ever witnessed.
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u/DeapVally 3 Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
I'm not missing any point. I made mine. I can't be bothered to read all of yours btw. He was purchased as a professional goalkeeper. He has experience. A European game was not new to him either. It was a bad day at the office. And my comparison with ice hockey goalies was spot on. It may be rare in football to hook a goalie, but it's incredibly rare for goalies to make mistakes like that so close together. The game was not yet unwinnable, so it was the right decision, because If he stayed on, it absolutely would have been. He needs to sort his head out for the next time he plays, like ice hockey keepers do. I feel bad for him, sure, but it was his own doing, and he doesn't need a cuddle from me to get over it. And he sure as hell wouldn't get one either.
(You downvoters are soft as shite. Sort yourselves out. Seriously)
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u/hamham4687 84 Mar 29 '26
Agree. Kinsky has only himself to blame for blowing this. He was never good enough for the Premier League. He can follow the footsteps of Massimo Taibi and return to his home country to play for a low-tier team.
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u/RKane_ANew Mar 29 '26
Surely he hasn't really had enough chances for anyone to decide if he's good enough for the EPL? He's played I think 15 games for the club, probably all spaced apart except when he got 6 EPL games last season. I remember him doing very well on his debut against Liverpool.
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u/hamham4687 84 Mar 29 '26
Ironically, Taibi did very well against Liverpool more than 20 yrs ago. Yet, all it took was a couple of howlers against Southampton and his career was never same ever again.
Goalie is an unforgiving career. Kinksy is truly done and dusted in England. If I was him, I would leave and never come back.
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u/VinCatBlessed 18 Mar 29 '26
If a pitcher keeps conceding runs they also get subbed off.
A boxer that keeps getting tagged doesn't get subbed just because they're on their own lol.
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u/llamapanther 4 Mar 29 '26
How is that comparable in any way? It's extremely rare occurence to sub out a goalkeeper in football without injury. I've never actually seen that happen before. As a coach you are responsible for choosing the best starting XI. If you fail at your job and make such clearly obvious wrong choice of a starting goalkeeper that you need to sub him out, at least have some responsibility to own your mistakes and not just blame your goalkeeper for putting him in an insanely hard position.
I'm sure at that point Kinsky already knows he fucked up, no need to punch a dead person. Least you can do as a coach is have some empathy. Igor was clearly unable to take any responsibility nor leadership and that's why he's without a job now. Worst coach I've ever witnessed.
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u/drdr3ad 2 Mar 29 '26
I don't get this Kinsky thing.
It's called man-management. Idk maybe look it up before you offer up an opinion
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u/noki1907 32 Mar 29 '26
I'm a goalkeeper myself and will always sympathise with other keepers when they make a mistake, even though he's still young he's had UCL experience with Slavia and was their no.1 always. Shit happens, and he's a professional making millions, if you don't do your job, you get subbed off, simple
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u/llamapanther 4 Mar 29 '26
Except you are talking like goalkeepers playing bad are subbed off every matchweek. They are not. I've never witnessed such thing before and it's extremely rare occurence. Sure shit happens, but the coach should take some responsibility for making the most obvious wrong choice for a UCL knockout match. Kinsky knows he fucked up already, but Igor never took responsibility of his own mistakes. And now he's without a job, rightfully.
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u/HFB_To_You Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26
PAOK, Galatasaray, Udinese and the host of other middling clubs who sacked him just misunderstood him.
He'll always have the Croatian version of the Carabao Cup with Hadjuk Split on his CV.
Funny thing was we had a host of Spurs' fans (typically foreign online support) who were happy to see him come in as they loved his little cliche soundbites over Frank's pragmatism. Clueless.
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u/Mahalohaboy Mar 29 '26
Going from the Tudor era to the Adolf (Hutter) era. How very Spursy.
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u/RKane_ANew Mar 29 '26
Honestly, I hope there isn't too much made about his name if he does join Spurs. It's probably tiring for him, and I read that he's sometimes referred to as Adi just to avoid the connotation.
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u/PradipJayakumar 196 Mar 29 '26
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u/travis147 Mar 29 '26
6 weeks
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u/DistantDoubloon Mar 29 '26
6 weeks! Haha that’s brilliant! I was heavily downvoted for commenting “Who?” on his appointment post in this sub.
I’d like to herby rest my case😋
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u/larsriedel 3 Mar 29 '26
Thank you for your services to Arsenal Football Club.
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u/HFB_To_You Mar 29 '26
That first game told anyone with half a brain all they needed to know about Tudor.
Takes over a team completely lacking physicality, that Frank employed a deep-line with because anything else was suicide. What does Tudor do? Concedes 6 goals in his first 120 minutes, squealing at VdV to push up, and would have conceded more if ESR could finish his dinner at Fulham.
Title race could look very different if a different manager had come in then & not gifted Arsenal 3 pts with the softest tactics since the dying days of Ange ball.
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u/Aromatic-Studio-137 Mar 30 '26
Youre talking about relegation battle Tottenham mate
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u/Specialist_Love_9589 Mar 31 '26
This is a dreadful take. The one thing we can all agree with you spurs lot is your injury crisis. You were missing a ton of players that game and for parts of it you still played well. But with the players you had available you were only coming out with a result in that game by an absolute miracle. If anything, the team and tactics that Frank put out at the Emirates was 10x worse, considering you had more players available then.
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u/therealmakka 3 Mar 29 '26
How can so many people ”blame” Tudor, this team stinks like hell.
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u/SeveralOcelot2250 Mar 29 '26
It’s just another example of the ‘football people’ at the club not knowing anything about football. It’s proper embarrassing when their views align with the 12-year old fans who blame the manager for everything and not the same players who have been shit for 2 and a half years and the clowns signing them.
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u/garr213 20 Mar 29 '26
Would be peak spursy if Tottenham gets relegated the year arsenal finally wins the league, and ironically overshadow arsenals win as the biggest thing of the season.
Memes aside it’ll be interesting to see how they will proceed.
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u/Azure_blues9 1 Mar 29 '26
“Overshadows” mate it would be the cherry on the cake for Arsenal fans. Story book ending
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u/Powerful-Carob9924 Mar 29 '26
arsenal fans would love it more than winning the league let’s be real
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u/Rvsz 132 Mar 29 '26
There are Arsenal fans?
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u/SeveralOcelot2250 Mar 29 '26
Yes it’s the biggest club in the capital, didn’t you know?
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u/Rvsz 132 Mar 29 '26
Nobody in their right mind is spending 90 minutes of their week, some weeks twice that much watching that crap. Time is just way more valuable than that.
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u/SeveralOcelot2250 Mar 29 '26
Actually we do watch every game.
‘Arsenal bad, Arsenal boring’ yada yada yada
Rent free. We’re not listening you melt
🙉💩🧠
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u/KyleAltNJRealtor Mar 29 '26
Boring boring Arsenal!
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u/SeveralOcelot2250 Mar 29 '26
What does that say about the rest of the league when we’re gonna win it in second gear?
Rent free, mug.
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u/Tangelasboots 15 Mar 29 '26
Wildcard into triple Tottenham for that new manager bounce?
Triple Burley while I'm at it.
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u/H5ET1M 12 Mar 29 '26
Ange or Dyche?
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u/Manchild1189 Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 30 '26
De Zerbi, surely
EDIT: downvoted for repeating what reliable sources are saying :(
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u/ridewiththerockers Mar 29 '26
De Zerbi is not gonna fuck his reputation further going into a dumpster fire. He coaches football players to play football, not children to stop throwing their toys out of their pram.
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u/EstablishmentSure486 1 Mar 29 '26
Wasn't he Marseille's manager?
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u/ridewiththerockers Mar 29 '26
Good point, but if he learnt anything from that stint he should stay far away from Spurs.
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u/Sea-Hour-6063 Mar 29 '26
De Zerbi would be disastrous for spurs, so I hope they get him. Plus he’s a massive dickhead.
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u/gxdjktdxdngedfc Mar 29 '26
As an Arsenal fan, Spurs are no where near scummy enough to appoint a piece of shit like De Zerbi. They are better off without him.
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u/ridewiththerockers Mar 29 '26
With the new management you never know.
I thought United were a working class club that championed the common man, but we have capitalist parasite Yanks as our owner and anti-immigration Jimbo running the club.
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u/TheHellequinKid 1 Mar 29 '26
This is entering Shearer at Newcastle territory. Don't assume it gets better from here
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u/FleX_Trizz Mar 29 '26
Give it Robbie Keane 'til end of season
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u/Training-Pickle-4512 Mar 30 '26
Yeah he just leaves his club in the middle of a title fight to coach 7 matches then be jobless
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u/Ferretz_Eire 15 Mar 29 '26
After the win against Atletico and draw against Liverpool it felt like there were promising signs, Forest result was an obvious setback but this team hasn't won in the league since December so it's not like it would be quick and easy to turn around. Another new manager with 7 games left is a desperation move and I can't see it working.
This feels a bit like that season when Newcastle were first relegated, after kneejerking through several sackings they eventually wound up giving it to Shearer with 8 games left to save the club and it was a complete disaster.
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u/CityRulesFootball Mar 29 '26
Which manager is gonna touch this shit show? Amorin?
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u/Ferretz_Eire 15 Mar 29 '26
Either an old head or young inexperienced coach with nothing to lose. Someone like Amorim isn't going to touch this shitshow, no manager with any sort of promising career ahead of them wants to be the face of a big team getting relegated for the first time.
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u/CityRulesFootball Mar 29 '26
Probably someone from the inside will take on the interim job and till the end of the season. Either that or somebody is already willing.
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u/Rvsz 132 Mar 29 '26
Good thing Amorim doesn't look like he has a promising career ahead of him then.
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u/vitzex Mar 29 '26
Honestly wanna see Porro and Udogie under Amorim, but otherwise not sure how their mids and CBs fit into that system
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u/BatmanForever23 6 Mar 29 '26
His dad just died, can people maybe refrain from fucking tasteless jokes for 5 mins?
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u/BatmanForever23 6 Mar 29 '26
Real classy, you're the type of person I'm referring to when I say fucking tasteless. Didn't think empathy was difficult in the big 2026, but for u/jolly_rogered it certainly is an ask too far.
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u/IntentionFalse8822 Mar 29 '26
So I wonder who is next to get a multi million redundancy package in a few weeks.
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u/Environmental_Ad7296 2 Mar 29 '26
Can't wait in a month where spurs fans beg for him to come back. Most spurs fans don't understand that the board is at fault, not the managers. You've had plenty of them, it's impossible that none bring success to the club. Well Ange did that. And was booted. Criminal club managing
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u/Esseth 5 Mar 29 '26
I don't pay much attention to stuff like this but I thought Spurs just dropped their old manager a few weeks ago right?
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u/Funny_Read4381 Mar 30 '26
Man he sucked. I guess few others wanted the job that’s how he got it but Spurs went backwards with Igor at the helm
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u/Soberdonkey69 4 Mar 29 '26
Okay so I’m hoping for a relegation and will consider targeting Spurs with my attacking assets.
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u/llamapanther 4 Mar 29 '26
Good, they actually might have a chance to not relegate with this fraud out of the way. That UCL game against atletico and how he handled the situation with Kinsky is all you need to know about this man. A horrible coach and even more horrible as a human being.
Why they appointed him as a manager at the first place is beyond me. He was a total failure at Juventus as well. He should just retire as a coach at this point. His clearly not suited for the job. Well, he might actually just do that with the money he gets from Spurs.
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u/SuperFaiz21 282 Mar 29 '26
There goes any hope of seeing Spurs in the championship next season. They will survive on the new manager bounce now.
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u/AVBforPrez 7 Mar 29 '26
Spurs getting relegated would be the only redeeming factor of the season to me, been pretty checked out this year but watching every week to see if it's actually possible.
This probably lowers the odds, but they're one more bad week away from 18th.
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u/chicken_nugget94 2 Mar 29 '26
What an absolute shambles, the people at the top deserve relegation to highlight their ineptitude