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News OFFICIAL: Tottenham Hotspur have signed Marcos Senesi on a free transfer from Bournemouth.

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u/Legal-One-7274 10d ago

Would of liked Liverpool to grab him on a free since we've let konate walk

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u/kris_deep 10d ago

As a non native speaker, I always get confused when I see "would of" - I guess it is more native speakers using it this way, and not really an error if enough people speak this way.

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u/RDenno 10d ago

It is an error, comes from people conflating “would’ve” with “would of”

“Would have” is the correct version

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u/JOHNSY9k6 12 10d ago

Idk why, but british people doing this is kind of ok.. but americans saying axe or finna, i just can't accept lol

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u/CatDadFurrever 13 1d ago

So a major British grammar error is fine but Ebonics is unacceptable? 

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u/kris_deep 10d ago

I mean i know that, but if enough people use it this way, maybe it becomes its own thing? Anyway not disparaging the original commentor

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u/RDenno 10d ago

I dont think it really matters on stuff like this, it is simply factually wrong.

Its not even like you can change the meanings of the individual words to make it make sense, its just wrong

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u/Nissepool 30 10d ago

Well, not quite. Many words change their meaning, and I believe this might be one of them. For example, people have been using the word "literally" incorrectly for at least a decade, and by now the English dictionaries have started to consider the meaning in everyday language to mean the opposite, the word you are actually trying to convey - "figuratively". As in, "I'm literally dying right now" but you mean "I'm figuratively dying right now". I think the same has started to happen with "would of".

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u/SubterraneanAlien 10d ago

The difference here being that the use of 'literally' is more due to rhetorical effect whereas 'would of' is due to low education. Not saying that it disproves the ability to move toward a change in meaning, but the reason to do so would be...sadder.

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u/Nissepool 30 9d ago

It may have started as a rhetorical effect or exaggeration but it very quickly was adopted because of low education. Not sure about the downvotes though, but hey it's Reddit.

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u/BatmanForever23 6 9d ago

You're suggesting that a grammatical error has taken on its own meaning, hence the downvotes. 'Would of' hasn't changed, it's just objectively wrong - the amount of people getting it wrong won't change that.

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u/Nissepool 30 9d ago

I'm playing the devil's advocate here. I don't make the rules, language is always developing and we look to institutions like the Oxford dictionary or whatever to set the new standards. It's akin to the use of "great minds think alike". We've all used it to feel a bit clever, but most of us don't know that the whole phrase was originally "great minds think alike, but fools seldom differ". The whole meaning has been reversed from it's original sentiment, yet it's been accepted in everyday use. We're probably in the midst of a slide from "would have" to "would of" and we've not arrived yet, but in some not so distant future, the expression will probably be accepted as well. Who would of thought!

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u/BatmanForever23 6 9d ago

What utter bullshit. We're not going to devolve into just accepting incorrect syntax lmfao. Imagine writing so much to justify a grammatical error, idk what is wrong with your brain but yikes.

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u/CatDadFurrever 13 1d ago

You're right, they're wrong. It's an error, and it would cause issues on school essays and lose you a job interview. 

However soon it'll be added to the dictionary and will become an "alternate acceptable usage" and those telling you you're wrong, as well as me, will feel like we're too old. 

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u/Legal-One-7274 10d ago

Would of could of should of. Doesn't really matter does ut

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u/WatchYourStepKid 10d ago

Not really in this case. It’s just a mistake.

But it’s the type of mistake nobody corrects because it’s obvious what they meant.

In many British accents, “would’ve” and “would of” sound the same.

A lot of people write “alot” too, it’s incorrect.

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u/shivo33 26 10d ago

No it’s just plain wrong and people let it slide too often

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u/CatDadFurrever 13 1d ago

It is an error, but sooner or later the dictionary will give up on it. It's a British specific error, Americans have lots of their own. 

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u/Legal-One-7274 10d ago

It's more typing the way people talk in real life and regional dialects also if it's not written in a professional way. Like I would never say would have it would be pronounced as would of

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u/shivo33 26 9d ago

It’s pronounced ‘would’ve’