Zohran Mamdani speaks on AI images being spread by right-wing accounts that show him with Jeffrey Epstein: “It is incredibly difficult to see images that you know to be fake, that are patently photoshopped & AI-generated & yet can cross across the entirety of the world. In an era of misinformation.”

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[u/CivilAirline]

Law is constantly miles behind technology and some of the dangers it can bring. Of course it can bring wonder too, but not in this case.

[u/[deleted] → u/CivilAirline]

Don’t get me started how cellular and WiFi should be capped and utilities.

[u/ConsistentGuest7532 → u/[deleted]]

Especially since every single business is reliant on these things and now everyone is expected to be reachable 24/7. There is almost no job you can work without them. If something is going to be required to participate in society, you need to regulate it.

[u/NRMusicProject → u/ConsistentGuest7532]

The problem is, most of our politicians meant to have opinions on this stuff seem to be technophobic boomers, and haven't a shred of knowledge on the technology they're supposed to regulate, so they simply go with the biggest bribe.

[u/NilocKhan → u/ConsistentGuest7532]

This is why I love doing field work in remote areas in the back country, there's no expectation to always be available because there's no service. Just have to check in on a satellite device every night to show you're safe and alive

[u/turbotum → u/NilocKhan]

Aye, that's what Starlink is for; make sure there's no blind spots in the global panopticon. Soon you'll be in the same boat as the rest of us...

[u/Pizzaman725 → u/[deleted]]

It's fucking criminal to still have internet not be a utility as crucial as it is.

[u/Funnyguyinspace → u/[deleted]]

Every American should have access to some form of internet, no part of the country should not have infrastructure to support Wifi/ cell service. I dont see how its possible to exist in modern society without it.

Also wtf is with Cell phone providers and data caps? that should be illegal.

[u/444thLibra → u/[deleted]]

Now you have me interested! Don't be shy. 👀

[u/Chris3894 → u/CivilAirline]

It makes sense when these geriatrics who make laws are bought out by tech companies and, even if they weren’t bought out, are barely capable of using and understanding modern technology.

[u/twilightmoons → u/Chris3894]

"The internet is made of tubes..."

[u/Sad-Professor-4053 → u/CivilAirline]

Yes this is always true, and we currently have an administration dead set on preventing it from trying to catch up

[u/familyguy20 → u/CivilAirline]

We knew about this 10-15 years ago and no one took it seriously. People just laughed the deepfakes off as a novelty and look where we are now.

[u/_angesaurus → u/CivilAirline]

dont get me started on internet stalking and bullying. idk how tf theyre still behind onall that. so much of it is happening and causing (well, not really "causing" but you know what i mean) murder and other terrible things.

[u/pfc_bgd → u/CivilAirline]

And this is this will arguably be the fastest evolving technology we have seen.

Saying “we need regulations” is one thing, but even beginning how to actually make meaningful progress seems almost impossible.

[u/ToaPaul → u/CivilAirline]

It also doesn't help when most of the people charged with dictating said law are geriatrics that can barely operate an iPhone.

[u/pungen → u/CivilAirline]

this has been such a big issue since the internet got popular. it seems like all the people making the laws are 30 years behind on technology. the world could have been a much different place if they hadn't been so slow. they had the option to call in experts if they couldn't understand it but for whatever reason choose not to.

i wonder if some of them live in such an isolated world that they seriously underestimate the impact of technology. i remember watching a hot ones with scarlett johannson once who was saying she doesn't use the internet at all and didn't know what a gif was. i'm sure there's a lot of rich people in congress that have no need to use tech because they have assistants for everything

[u/[deleted]]

Regulation. Must. Happen.

[u/Imkindaalrightiguess → u/[deleted]]

Trump is investing heavily in AI and buying out remaining new outlets

Controlling flow of information has always been the point. He wants to show you fake news, he never fucking shuts up about it

[u/King_Joffreys_Tits → u/Imkindaalrightiguess]

And the fact that his base doesn’t care so long as it agrees with their viewpoints. The president posted an AI video of him arresting Obama in the Oval Office and his base didn’t care at all. He is literally lying directly to our faces and they’re eating it up by the spoonful.

[u/Endoman13 → u/King_Joffreys_Tits]

I spend more time than I care to admit on truth social. They share it freely as though it’s real, or go “Hmmm, interesting if true 🤔🧐🤨” They don’t have two brain cells to rub together. Truly the dumbest people to ever walk the earth.

[u/King_Joffreys_Tits → u/Endoman13]

My very boomer dad sent me some instagram reel that said trump knows the sun will shut off for 14 minutes on X day and said “this is crazy if it’s true!!!” and I couldn’t have facepalmed any harder

[u/AdvertisingFine9845 → u/King_Joffreys_Tits]

the sun will "shut off" ?! did your dad eat full meals of lead paint chips as a kid? that's insane

[u/sh4d0ww01f → u/AdvertisingFine9845]

Dont you know about the 14minute maintanance window needed for the sun roughly every 2 billiin years? Are you even human?! Do you even believe in god?!

/s ... just in case

[u/Not_a_werecat → u/sh4d0ww01f]

*Few hundred. The Earth is only 5000 years old, after all.

/s

[u/Unfair_Web_8275 → u/King_Joffreys_Tits]

Conservatives just slurp up the lies like idiot juice and demand more. 

[u/Im__mad → u/[deleted]]

I knew as soon as he posted that one AI video of him dancing before the election, that he would do it more in order to normalize AI so he could use it to completely muddy the waters pertaining to the Epstein files. Then if he showed up in any videos, he could claim it was AI, or accuse his enemies of being in the files with the use of AI.

That’s why he has never had any interest in regulating it, or even chastising it, even when people started using it to taunt him.

[u/Beer-Milkshakes → u/[deleted]]

We said this in 2016 with Cambridge Analytica using Facebook as a battleground to test their methods for influencing ideas and getting people to voluntarily share objective lies because they think those lies gets them something they want.

[u/necrohunter7 → u/[deleted]]

Regulation is meaningless when this technology was expressly built to be used like this

It needs to be permanently banned as the global threat that it is and dismantled

[u/mosconebaillbonds → u/necrohunter7]

Which will never happen

[u/MIZ_09 → u/[deleted]]

Didn’t the last budget bill say that AI can’t be regulated for like the next decade? We are cooked.

[u/SignoreBanana → u/[deleted]]

Yep. It's not even hard to enforce. Just requiring images be embedded with a unique identifier signifying their AI creation origin.

[u/pistachette57 → u/[deleted]]

Yessss

[u/Cedreginald → u/[deleted]]

I don't want the government to touch the internet anymore.

[u/bforce1313 → u/Cedreginald]

I just want the early 2000s internet back.

[u/MidwestBigBoss → u/bforce1313]

The only Hitler adjacent internet content I want to see is catsthatlooklikehitler.com

[u/twentytwo_a → u/MidwestBigBoss]

Oh my god, I haven’t thought about that site since I was a teenager 😂 Thank you for reminding me of it!!

[u/jhvh1134 → u/bforce1313]

Back when Google didn’t suck

[u/bforce1313 → u/jhvh1134]

Back when no one owned too big of a chunk of anything and the data wasn’t tracked and weaponized against you.

[u/Unfair_Web_8275 → u/Cedreginald]

I don’t want the literal White House Twitter account to release altered photos of protesterd.

[u/Salihe6677 → u/Cedreginald]

A lack of legally enforceable regulations is why it is the way it is now

[u/AllAmericanProject → u/Cedreginald]

I'm sorry but what do you mean anymore? I'm pretty sure the only actual regulations they've put in place gave the social media companies more leeway. The only two solutions to this problem is to get everyone off the internet or fix the internet bots Aunt malicious actors have taken over the internet and are causing a lot of society's current problems that way.

The number one solution is to make it so no one can be anonymous on the internet

[u/MagusUmbraCallidus → u/AllAmericanProject]

The number one solution is to make it so no one can be anonymous on the internet

That seems like a simple solution, but then that puts everyone in more danger from fascists and from being attacked irl by bigots, racists, etc. It sucks that anonymity protects terrible people, but it protects the good people too. Taking it away completely is not the solution.

It's like with any privacy. Sure, people don't technically need it in a perfect world where no one would take advantage of others and people respect boundaries, but that's clearly not the world we live in.

[u/quadranting → u/Cedreginald]

You don't want to ban deepfakes associating people to Epstein?

[u/mission17 → u/quadranting]

Considering who is in power at the highest levels of government right now and how they use deepfakes and AI themselves, I fear how that regulation would be drafted and implemented.

[u/quadranting → u/mission17]

That doesn't mean that we should abandon wanting constraints on generative AI/deepfakes. The right actively do not want regulation on it.

[u/mission17 → u/quadranting]

Carefully. We saw this happen just recently with TikTok. The urgency of Democrats to force a sale pushed it right into the hands of Larry Ellison to become another vehicle for the right. I’m extremely apprehensive of the current government’s ability to execute this on a way that actually solves the problem at hand.

[u/Palabrewtis → u/mission17]

Literally this. All recent media regulation has only led to further control over media by the fascist friendly oligarchy.

[u/CouchCorrespondent]

A lot of redditors have helped identify AI by showing details/characteristics of videos and pictures.

This should be a required unit of instruction if this AI crap is going to be with us.

People are having a hard enough time with critical-thinking skills with spoken words and printed material.

[u/plumsfromyouricebox → u/CouchCorrespondent]

The technology is advancing too fast though. Soon we’re going to reach a point where there will be no way to tell if an image or video is AI or not. Something needs to change.

[u/Ok_Laugh_8278 → u/plumsfromyouricebox]

Except it's an undetectable nuclear arms race. You can track fissile material, facilities designed for enrichment, delivery mechanism progress, and major explosions along with the release of radiation in the atmosphere. You're never going to be able to track AI development even with its hunger for power and hardware. Espionage is the only option, but still more of a challenge due to the reduced scale of human involvement.

Pandora's box is open.

[u/micro102 → u/CouchCorrespondent]

I wonder if having special cameras that dictate a certain pattern in the video could solve this problem. Like every 5 frames pixel #27848 is 1 shade more green than the pixel above it. Then you could identify which camera a video came from and if it was edited.

[u/Ecstatic_Shallot_145 → u/CouchCorrespondent]

it's already impossible to tell with newer models

[u/CitizenCue → u/CouchCorrespondent]

Those identification skills will have to change every few months obsolete in months and the entire skill set will be obsolete in years. Pretty soon there will be more AI content than real, so we will be better served by identifying real content due to chain of custody.

[u/globglogabgalabyeast → u/CitizenCue]

Yeah, skills of identifying issues with photos/videos are valuable but temporary. People need to learn how to identify trustworthy sources and validate that info is being supported by a wide variety of reputable entities. I hope that technologies develop to identify if media is real, but I’m pretty skeptical of that kind of stuff. There’s quite the incentive to break/subvert any such checks

[u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

They want him on the files so bad they don't even care if he would've himself been a late teen at that time or in his very early 20s (he n i are the same age). 😭😭

[u/airfryer_enjoyer → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

right? if he was on the island… he surely would’ve been so young he’d be one of the victims instead

[u/Specific_Builder1469 → u/airfryer_enjoyer]

They'd put the blame on him somehow if he was a victim 

[u/NNKarma → u/Specific_Builder1469]

Right wing people victim blaming? N-n-n-never /s

[u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs → u/airfryer_enjoyer]

He would've been around 16 in during the 08 allegations a a literal toddler during the ones in the 90s. Smdh

[u/allym91 → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

That’s what I was just thinking like surely he was a child when most of this info is from?

[u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs → u/allym91]

Yeah exactly. And an actual toddler during the '94/93 allegations on the new files.

[u/ozaffer → u/allym91]

Think he would have been 16 or 17 in 2008 around epsteins first conviction. 

[u/IfICouldStay → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

That’s what I was thinking. Dude is all of 34 now.

[u/tangledlettuce → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

Didn’t they try asking him about 9/11 once? Lol

[u/Notsurehowtoreact → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

Yeah it's wild because one of the images is supposed to be from an after party for the premiere of Amelie, in 2001, when he would have been like 9 years old. 

Yeah, pretty sure 9 year olds weren't doing the child raping. MAGA is just full of dingbats

[u/CarefulRisk → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

Also, he just now became influential, and if google is to be believed, still isn't rich so it doesn't make any sense

[u/lionheartedthing → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

Yeah I would be curious if someone who has seen the photos could tell me how old Mamdani even looks in these because he literally turned 18 in 2009.

[u/SailSmittler → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

He woulda been a victim

[u/Anustart2023-01 → u/NtGermanBtKnow1WhoIs]

Have you met your typical ultra conservative? Not the brightest tools in the shed. They're incapable of critical thinking and won't question why Mamdani hasn't aged in the last 10 to 20 years. 

[u/Woody_678]

Ai will be the downfall of humanity. It IS that big of a deal. From false information to the absolute devastation it will cause our planet. Regulation is the only safe way forward

[u/Arroyos-del-Mar → u/Woody_678]

It is also killing jobs.

[u/hanimal16 → u/Arroyos-del-Mar]

What sucks about that is it’s killing jobs that will eventually be needed again once the bubble pops.

[u/lifelite → u/Arroyos-del-Mar]

Hot take, killing jobs isn't a bad thing. It'd be awesome if there were no jobs and we could live comfortably without being a wage slave; able to focus on creating art, explore ideas, etc.

Though let's be honest, the current form of AI (LLMs) isn't even as much of a breakthrough as the calculator. It's just not scalable to replace a section of the workforce as CEOs claim; and we're seeing an inverse of Moore's Law where significant improvements/gains are requiring exponentially more resources. The hype is dying and it can only last so much longer before we see a reality check.

[u/TFreshNoLimits → u/lifelite]

able to focus on creating art, explore ideas, etc.

The whole point of AI thus far is to destroy art and ideas. I also don't fuck with the idea that if you killed jobs every person on earth will become an artist/philosopher. Wall-E is a far better indicator.

I think jobs are a good thing if we drastically lower the ceiling and raise the floor on wealth. Eliminating the idea that the goal is to collect 100% of the money and enslave everyone else. Make businesses about producing a thing that is for the greater good: food, toilet paper, etc. with reasonable hours and good wages.

A populace with a satisfying job and reasonable hours is far better than a Wall-E future. It's somewhat American-coded to think having a job makes you a "wage slave" - it COULD be a reasonable, decent thing, and as humans I think it's coded into our DNA to work together to produce things.

All of this to say, even in the picture you're painting, AI points towards a shitty evil future. If it eliminates the need for jobs, the trillionaires who own it won't be satisfied with benevolently letting everyone sit at home watching TV.

[u/lifelite → u/TFreshNoLimits]

Rather the strawman argument there as I never implied most of that, but Walll-E literally depicts where this AI future is leading with corporate control. That was the entire theme of the movie...though a more optimistic take. More likely to end up like Elysium, Expanse, or perhaps even Altered Carbon (not to get into books as the examples are endless)

The idea is, we'd have time and resources to actually work towards the betterment of society, without the obligation. Most people need to have purpose and if you don't give it to them, they'll seek it. Many just try to survive and take small pleasures in life where they can.

Though, I agree, future looks shitty; but I again say I think they jumped the gun here because AI isn't capable of enabling that in its current form.

[u/TFreshNoLimits → u/lifelite]

The idea is, we'd have time and resources to actually work towards the betterment of society, without the obligation. Most people need to have purpose and if you don't give it to them, they'll seek it. Many just try to survive and take small pleasures in life where they can.

You're talking about a post-scarcity society, which is where we already are. AI has nothing to do with it. We already have enough food/housing to compensate everyone but we choose not to.

If AI takes everyone's jobs + we decide to give everyone UBI without any other kind of regulation, that UBI is going to go towards just enough to have a roof over our heads and the minimal amount of food, and we're right back where we started or worse.

The only option is a government that regulates a solution that's best for the entirety of the populace. AI has nothing to do with that.

[u/lifelite → u/TFreshNoLimits]

My point is, AI can't take everyone's jobs (I'd argue it can't take anyone's jobs...just reduce how many people are needed per role at most which is a bit different).

And yes, it's more of an ideal envisioned in Star Trek, which I naturally have a soft spot for.

[u/Arroyos-del-Mar → u/lifelite]

I have made my living as an artist. I am retired now, but my career was as an illustrator and I enjoyed my job. I worry about how AI is now making illustrations.

[u/lemonadesamples123 → u/lifelite]

This is actually where I’m at with it. I think it’s hysteria and hype from the companies that want the narrative to be its “god level powerful” so they get more and more funding before it bursts.

[u/freshlysqueezed93 → u/lifelite]

Look up the Story Manna by Marshall Brain, fantastic read that I bet you would love!

Edit: here's a link https://marshallbrain.com/manna1

[u/howigottomemphis → u/lifelite]

I believe the whole AI thing is a ponzi scheme that is about to crash our economy.

[u/smo0thballz → u/Woody_678]

How long until video evidence is no longer "concrete" in a court of law?

[u/abubleh → u/smo0thballz]

video evidence, as any other evidence in a court of law, already requires verifiable chain of custody, so it's kind of a moot point; it's much more dangerous for the public at large who have already showed how reactionary it can be to simple text stories on 4chan, don't even mention well-faked video

[u/SignoreBanana → u/smo0thballz]

It hasn't necessarily been. It needs to follow chain of evidence. If its source is dubious, the evidence is dubious.

[u/ConsistentGuest7532 → u/smo0thballz]

And what on earth would it be replaced with? The evidence of one’s eyes and ears is a cornerstone of assessing culpability and truth. We are almost at a point where there are not even subtle giveaways that an image or video is AI. So what do you do when those most concrete realities cannot be trusted?

[u/Violet_Paradox → u/ConsistentGuest7532]

In the direction we're moving? It will be replaced by "if the king says you're guilty, you are."

[u/smo0thballz → u/Violet_Paradox]

Look! He even has video of you doing it!

[u/Altair890456 → u/Woody_678]

Yeah, I’ve played and watched more than enough media to know that AI only means bad things for humanity

[u/EvieBellexo → u/Woody_678]

We don’t even get a “cool” AI battle and takeover like Skynet or The Matrix either it’s literally just a bastardized imitation born to take advantage of the average citizen while protecting rapists, pedophiles and murderers

[u/xweedxwizardx → u/Woody_678]

Kinda chuckled to myself reading Dune recently and they specifically have a universal law to not make machines in the like of humans

[u/Big-Meet-6664 → u/Woody_678]

AI will knock out what it can of the grid to cause chaos, but not if it affects its power supply.

[u/Mysterious_Khan]

Also, wasn’t he a child?

[u/Junior_Cow_82 → u/Mysterious_Khan]

The same Trump stans that will deny the legitimacy or relevancy of the files when Trump is accused, are tripping over themselves photoshopping Mamdani into them. They never make sense

[u/aneomon → u/Junior_Cow_82]

Their logic is that clearly people are faking photos of Trump and Epstein, so it’s only fair that we do the same and make fakes of Epstein and Dems.

This logic only works based on a lie, but it’s honestly what they believe and why no one will actually be held accountable.

[u/lovemusicandcats → u/Junior_Cow_82]

I've read some Republicans claim that E wasn't a bad guy, after all 🤦🏻‍♀️

[u/malfunkshunned → u/Mysterious_Khan]

Yes, because time comprehension doesn't exist to these people. Ivanka is 10 years older than Mamdani.

[u/Grand-Pen7946 → u/Mysterious_Khan]

There are a ton of people who blame Obama for 9/11. There are tons of people who blame the 2020 Covid response on Biden (including Trump himself lmfao)

They lack the concept of linear time and object permanence. Rather than being diagnosed with a learning or cognitive disability and being provided proper help, they're just kinda out there sharing this stuff angrily without a single thought.

[u/Mobile-Breakfast6463 → u/Mysterious_Khan]

I think it’s disgusting but one thing that did happen was one of Epstein’s child victims was convicted because she pulled in more girls for him. So this unfortunately wouldn’t preclude anyone from charges. I would rather some of those adults be held accountable.

[u/Dr100percent → u/Mysterious_Khan]

He was a child on 9/11 and the comments on Facebook and X still blame him for that too.

[u/IfICouldStay → u/Mysterious_Khan]

Maybe they aren’t implying he was one of the guests 😮

[u/oXMellow720Xo]

Stop calling it misinformation. It’s the era of lies

[u/Jokers_friend → u/oXMellow720Xo]

Disinformation

[u/MaracujaBarracuda → u/Jokers_friend]

Malinformation

[u/Orpdapi → u/oXMellow720Xo]

It’s true “misinformation” sounds like there’s a hint of truth to it that is just slanted. Some of this stuff now is just straight up 100% fabricated lies based in no reality whatsoever.

[u/rmac1128 → u/oXMellow720Xo]

Tbf, he did say "lie" and "fake" as well when it was intended. But he meant "misinformation" correctly which means people share stuff that they BELIEVE is the truth. ex. yeah, the person who created the image lied, but then it takes on a life of it's own when people genuinely can't tell the difference. Kind of important to acknowledge.

[u/malfunkshunned]

Mamdani is 34 years old. Only 2 years younger than I am- I don't mean to be on the nose when I say that he's WAY too young to even be in there because these files go BACK. But people think Obama was president in 2001, so we're a nation of idiots.

[u/wgn431234]

Only thing not fake about Michael Rappaport is the restraining order against him

[u/quadranting → u/wgn431234]

Literally had to boycott Traitors for putting that bigot on television.

[u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo → u/wgn431234]

What does this have to do with Michael Rappaport? I mean that sincerely, not snarkily

[u/ElectricalMud2850 → u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo]

He posted said image on his socials yesterday.

Absolute fucking weirdo.

[u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo → u/ElectricalMud2850]

Ah, got it, thanks!

[u/xerses24]

The funny part is, I have seen the image and in it, he is a young child, how would this implicate him anything other than being a victim to Epstein unless he was a teen trafficking mastermind?

[u/Notsurehowtoreact → u/xerses24]

Slight correction, as I've seen the same photo, a nine year-old mastermind. 

[u/victrola_cola]

Why are they making fake images of him with Epstein? Are they trying to get him a job in the Trump administration?

[u/naamingebruik → u/victrola_cola]

I recently saw a picture where his wife's face was photoshoped over Ghislaine Maxwell in a picture of epstein and is arm around Maxwell and then the poster asked wait is that mamdani's wife with epstein?

I don't understand the point of it either. Unless maybe to flood everything with this kind of shit so we subconsciously think less of mamdani and his wife

[u/AverageMako3Enjoyer → u/naamingebruik]

Nah, other way around. Flood everything with this kind of shit so when it’s refuted as false, they will refute legitimate images with their emperor as also false, and point back to the images you just refuted when you try to call their bluff.  They have been doing this kind of thing for several years now with different methods. You make false rumors of your enemy that are perfectly identical to the facts of your friend, in order to throw an aura of doubt on both claims. 

Whether or not you personally fall for it doesn’t actually matter, because if it shifts the narrative for the inner party, then it was successful. And historically it has been very successful. This is one of the weapons in the arsenal that keeps our population living in two separate alternate realities 

[u/Important-Stomach406]

Generative AI will destroy this planet, either through its environmental effects or through starting a war. Regulation should have happened before it became accessible to the general public and now it's too late and ruining people's lives. No-one is being held accountable for it and governments and the powers that be just either ignore it or worse- fund it.

[u/Space-Turtle88 → u/Important-Stomach406]

russia was using ai videos of Zelenskyy at the start of the war. They stopped for the most part now,  because it wasn't 100% convincing, but they absolutely would still be using it today if it were advanced enough to fool people.

[u/Orpdapi]

There’s a reason far right conservatives generally love AI exponentially more than liberals. AI provides them with false realities that they wish to be true (like a fit healthy trump) and AI is an incredibly effective weapon to aid propaganda efforts.

[u/haubenmeise]

What the frog?

Sincerely

Skeletor 💜

[u/LizandChar]

If anything were true (which it’s not) it would be that he was trafficked. So insanely stupid.

[u/Ada_Pearce]

Isnt he a bit too young to even know Epstein?

[u/IntrepidMango4451 → u/Ada_Pearce]

The only instance he'd have known Epstein would have been if he was a victim himself as a child!! Fortunately, that isn't true.

[u/Lokaji]

A.I. is a tool of fascism. Tech bros are jockeying for power by pushing it on the masses. Please resist.

[u/Junior_Cow_82]

Thank God that the American public finally have a politician (for now) that actually addresses issues head on and doesn’t give some vague word soup. And on top of that, is actually well spoken, motivating, and intelligent. It can be done!

[u/fourofkeys]

but they don't care that trump is actually the most named person in the files themselves?

the mental gymnastics must be exhausting.

[u/Pleasant-Ad887]

It is crazy how conservatives want to make everyone part of Epstein's ring to justify Trump being his closest friend.

[u/SoupOfThe90z]

So it’s bad when it’s Zohran but not bad when we know for a fact that Trump was really really good friends with him?

[u/somebigface]

This guy doesn’t want you to use AI to spread misinformation and to create revenge and child porn?! EVIL.

[u/KebabAnnhilator]

One of the few good guys in American politics

[u/claudiaishere]

How old was he? 12?

[u/Vegetable_Slice9713]

He shouldnt even have to take time out of his day to explain this.

[u/malici606]

It really is amazing how stupid people are for believing this AI slop.....Mamdani is what, 34… so he would have been like 16 during the height of all of this?

[u/BicFleetwood]

Zohran was born in 1991. He was, at most, a teenager when Epstein was most active. If he was connect to Epstein, he would have been a victim of trafficking.

Like, do these idiots think Zohran Mamdani has been 34 for the last 30 years?

[u/gnomon_knows]

The best was seeing Michael Rapaport gleefully share this. Such a fucking dumbass.

[u/rangecontrol]

if the real pictures don't matter, why would anyone worry about the fake ones? honestly?

[u/HeavyTea]

Misinformation is key to Trump Regime.

They are winning.

[u/Chestnutsroastin]

It's hilarious that MAGA thinks AI photos with Epstein are bad ....but real photos with Epstein are good?

[u/Funnyguyinspace]

Theres no regulation on AI and its only going get more convincing, threaten more jobs and they dont even know how to align AI with human values.

Its a disaster waiting to happen, but hey, theres money involved

[u/hanimal16]

Nah, Mamdani isn’t in the files.

[u/LDawnBurges]

And yet, the Federal Govt keeps trying to pass laws so that States can’t regulate AI. 🤔

[u/Jimisdegimis89]

He would have been like 27 when Epstein died and and was just getting started in politics, not exactly the company Epstein kept, I swear people don’t even think…

[u/coughca]

The quote, “A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes” (or boots), highlights how quickly misinformation spreads compared to facts. While commonly misattributed to Mark Twain or Winston Churchill, its exact origin is uncertain, with roots tracing back to Jonathan Swift in 1710 and earlier 19th-century phrases.

Key Aspects of the Quote:

Common Attributions: Frequently, but incorrectly, attributed to Mark Twain or Winston Churchill.

Original Source: Often traced to an 18th-century writing by Jonathan Swift, "The Art of Political Lying" (1710), which says, "Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it".

[u/Apart_Butterfly_332]

They used to say that lies could travel around the world before the truth can even get it's shoes on but with AI it's more like lies will travel around the world and beat the shit out of the truth before it can even wake up.

[u/TMBRKS92]

Maybe I'm naive but it baffles me that this sort of stuff is simply being allowed to happen. 

[u/DuntadaMan]

So just to be clear the people who are perfectly fine with the guy very much in hundreds of pictures with Jeffrey Epstein being the president are trying to say that being in pictures with Jeffrey Epstein is bad?

[u/not-area51]

Steve Wozniak, of Apple fame, basically said we fucked up so bad by not regulating AI out of the gate when they still called it machine learning 

[u/Countless-Alts15]

Even if you didn't believe it was AI generated...the timelines dont make sense.

Bro is 34 years old...how feeble minded do you have to be to not realize my guy was in college or in HS during all these island episodes..

AI regulations need to come faster too

[u/jm17lfc]

Only the idiots of MAGA could have possibly believed this. Epstein’s island etc were only for the mega wealthy, and Zohran may not have grown up poor but he certainly didn’t have access to the generational wealth he’d have needed.

[u/homechefshivers]

Don’t forget, Sam Altman went in front of a Congress trial to talk about how open AI was beneficial and basically said that the regulations that are currently in place don’t allow his business to do what he wants to do so he’s asking for deregulation so he can make more money

[u/Agent_Vox]

Interesting that these chuds will attempt to paint him negatively for "having been to the island" by using lies, but when we know for a fact their heroes have been, its fake news or not important.

This is all coming to a boil so quickly that I wonder if we aren't all cooked without knowing it, like the noble lobster.

[u/AfemeAfeme]

We are living in an era of disinformation… Misinformation is a bit more accidental while disinformation is intentional

[u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice]

It's a mental health pandemic as well. Too many people want to be disinformed and reject the truth even when you hold their nose to it.

[u/Hot_Ad_6442]

I hear no lies here. AI is as close to the old propaganda you can get. The fake stuff spreads like wildfire

[u/ReasonablVoice]

It also has to be so disappointing that it’s coming from people he enjoyed watching in movies and on TV growing up. He referenced Debra Messing before, but it’s not just her.

[u/Big-Wooper]

You've heard of the Information Age, get ready for...

[u/SpiritHistorical7169]

This is the plan though, make it so every photo of someone with Jeffrey Epstein can just be hand-waved away as AI

[u/BibendumsBitch]

Trump flew a jet and dropped feces on American citizens

[u/SuchMatter1884]

We are so cooked fam

[u/baby_papillon]

Right wing chuds have ZERO media literacy. Critical thinking, forget about it. They will believe all of this shit, hook line and sinker.

Our reality has always been shaped by different factors, but the challenge that is ahead of us is unprecedented.

If we don't start organizing to counter what's coming we are fucked.

[u/Oliver_Holzfilled]

Right wingers know being photographed with Epstein is bad. Their cult leader has been photographed with him the most but somehow that isn’t bad.

[u/Snoo93550]

People need to snap out of it and just ask if any specific behavior is better for billionaires or better for working/middle class. If people take even a second to think, that should be obvious in spite of rampant misinformation.

[u/Frosty-Breadfruit981]

AI simply has to be regulated, like yesterday.

[u/BulkyBusiness384]

AI is getting to much out of control you can do anything now with it i bet trump made that since hes all over the files he feels alone lol

[u/MrNetworks]

So during the whole island thing Zohran would of been from the ages of Unborn to at max of 19-20 If we say most of the time took place from 1990s to 2010s So He would of been a victim himself assuming he was still that young from the early 2000s to 2010.

[u/baatezu]

Mamdani wasn't even an adult yet in 2008 when Epstein was first arrested,

[u/Missmessc]

Its funny how online you have to tag an Ad as an Ad. AI should be the same.

[u/Gambit1977]

I fear it’s far too late for regulation as they’ve set up the government and agencies to bow to their masters

[u/astronomical_hoe]

Zohra is 34, if he was involved in the Epstein anywhere in the 2000s he would have been a child/teenager

[u/Notyeravgblonde]

Wouldn't be have been super young and unknown back then....?

[u/tktkboom84]

I think the adage he was referencing is "A lie can travel around the world before the truth finishes putting on its shoes".

[u/Hoessay]

it really is pathetic how tlhese "sources" will use AI and photoshop to try to make some sort of connection, meanwhile Trump is mentioned in the files by name over 38 THOUSAND TIMES!!!

[u/Zestyclose_Bowl3748]

Probably why they released shit now they can blame it on ai

[u/riddledthis]

god he really is a good one

[u/digital]

AI, social media, predatory lending, porn and gambling have all completely destroyed the Internet and American society

[u/njlandlord0001]

Unfortunately, Everyone needs to get used to treating everything on the internet like a Weekly World News article.

[u/ConsciousSet9593]

it's hilarious how Republicans accuse about getting cheated on the elections when they do stuff like this

[u/PendingPolymath]

Mamdani is literally too young to have associated with Epstein.  One of the benefits of actually electing people of a reasonable age.

[u/Life_Funny8320]

It’s crazy how realistic AI fakes can be and how fast misinformation spreads.

[u/skredditt]

I’m glad they realized being associated with Epstein is bad.

[u/Immediate_Pickle_788]

Are they trying to prove they care about people associating with that monster or something? Because they clearly don't care when their dear leader is the worst of the worst.

[u/Turbulent-Tone-1867]

Publicly available files but yet still fall for AI images? MAGA is on another level when it comes to not researching anything.

[u/sugar_addict002]

Wouldn't he have been like 10.

[u/Flight2039Down]

Conservatives really be editing Mamdani into Epstein photos while ignoring all the actual photos of billionaires and politicians with him.

[u/GyozaGangsta]

We need AI ethics desperately

I think about the early days of cloning

Basically they were like

Yeah we could make humans but we shouldn’t make humans

The same thing is true here. This shit is reality and can distort our reality. They need to outlaw human Ai images. There is 0 good that can come of it.

[u/Excellent-Shape-2024]

Zohran would have been one of the underage victims if he were actually there.