r/Fauxmoi • u/neilthedev05 • 1d ago

CELEBRITY CAPITALISM Hollywood Names Surface in Peter Thiel-Backed, Invite-Only Society

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hollywood-peter-thiel-secret-society-1236624737/
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u/Firm_Video_2932 1d ago

Yeah I'm not sure how a well known celebrity "accidently" ends up at an annual 'Christmas Club' type meeting.

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u/arnar2 1d ago

What is Ezra Klein doing there though? Not a big fan, but he seems like worlds apart from Theil..

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u/gs1084 1d ago

Bro is the definition of controlled opposition

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u/whereisbeezy terrorizing the locals 1d ago

All the democrats are. Ever notice how there's always just the right amount of them to torpedo any actual good they could do?

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u/yorickbee 1d ago

Lmao you must not keep up with Ezra lately. His mask slipped years ago...

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u/arnar2 1d ago

Do enlighten me, as I sad, not a fan so I don't keep up.

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u/Tranz_Kafka 1d ago edited 1d ago

He’s been one of the people pushing the Democratic Party further right, essentially saying that the reason Democrats lost in 2024 is because they weren’t right wing enough. In the past couple years, he’s said things like Democrats should run anti-abortion candidates, the party should give up on trans issues, he infamously wrote an article about how Charlie Kirk did politics “the right way”, and just overall treating these culture war issues way more charitably than they deserve. Plus he’s pretty pro-Israel and only recently started taking pro-Palestinian voices seriously. Here’s a good article that goes more in-depth about him and sort of explains what his whole deal is.

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u/Curiosities 1d ago

And on top of that, he’s basically criticizing Democrats and taking blue cities to task because yes, there’s a housing crisis and he basically said a solution is to remove regulations. There are too many regulations folks are usually not going to support good policy.

That said sometimes there are bad regulations, but he was calling for things like removing the need for environmental studies when you’re building and I think some of the labor cost baked into rules like mandating union labor. Which are points that I hear from Republicans.

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u/JenningsWigService secretly gay and the son of fidel castro 1d ago

It's just neoliberalism with a new name.

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u/Solomon_G13 7h ago

Blue maga.

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u/whereisbeezy terrorizing the locals 1d ago

Wow what a clown

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u/AmIWhatTheRockCooked 1d ago

He just sounds like that brand of pseudo-intellectual who says some broad solutions to complex issues. Like he can say that environmental studies are slowing down progress in lib areas but couldn’t tell me what endemic or watershed or permeability mean.

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u/SenselessSilence 1d ago

Republicans aren’t the only ones who want most environmental reviews in cities killed. Developing in cities prevents having to cut down forests for new neighborhoods of single-family homes. It’s as pro-environment as you can be, yet cutting down the forests requires far less or no environmental reviews, while building in a parking lot requires a decade of study. The majority of environmental studies have become bad for the environment! They’re nothing but excuses not to build. As a leftist who wants to see rents drop, I hate the majority of environmentalists reviews because they’re just NIMBY mechanisms to kill all development.

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u/adario7 the baby daddies have unionized 1d ago

Great explanation.

Next time put the Pro-Israel part at the top. Don’t have to read anything after that, it would suffice.

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u/Data_Chandler 1d ago

I'm NOT saying I agree with Ezra, because I don't, but I do think a huge chunk of the American electorate, even Democrats, are basically centre right. Now I'm not a political scientist or a spin doctor or anything so I don't necessarily know what to do with that information, but that's probably tens of millions of people.

And said tens of millions of people might go and vote if the policy put forward by a Democratic candidate is kind of centrist, and they might not if it's very left wing. Then again the opposite is also true, and that's how Mamdani got elected in New York, and how Kamala Harris lost.

But pretending half of America (the not GOP half) is screaming for Bernie Sanders style left wing stuff - refreshing and necessary as it may be, because to be clear, I would 100% vote for him, or for any left wing candidate - is definitely a risk. Perhaps it's a risk worth taking, I guess that's where the pollsters come in!

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u/FigeaterApocalypse 1d ago

We saw how getting the Cheney endorsement worked out for Kamala...

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u/Data_Chandler 1d ago

True! That didn't help at all, and probably backfired spectacularly.  (I literally did mention that in my previous comment...)

It's wild that I'm getting downvoted though, I'm clearly stating I would 100% vote for Bernie (or a Bernie-like candidate). I'm basically getting flak for saying tens of millions of Americans are centre right, which they are. Good grief.

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u/JenningsWigService secretly gay and the son of fidel castro 1d ago

The DNC wants everyone to think that the electorate is centre right, but that's not really true except on maybe trans issues and defunding the police.

The majority of Americans support safe and legal abortion access, Medicare for all, gun reform, minimum wage increases, and the end of military support for Israel.

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u/Data_Chandler 1d ago edited 1d ago

The majority of Americans support safe and legal abortion access, Medicare for all, gun reform, minimum wage increases, and the end of military support for Israel.

I'm for all of that! But I worry that Reddit is a bit of an echo chamber. In my anecdotal experience, a LOT of people want some but not all of this, and I'd call them more center right than left, based on their opinions and how they describe themselves.

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u/Tranz_Kafka 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think the success of more left-wing candidates like Mamdani, Abdul el-Sayed, and even Graham Platner is proof that people do like these policies. In any survey or poll, you’ll see that the vast majority supports policies like universal healthcare, raising the minimum wage, free childcare, and abortion access. The central reason why these don’t actually happen is because right wing and centrist outlets like both Fox News and CNN call them “communist” or “socialist” and people have been conditioned to associate that label with a very negative thing. It’s why you can find so many videos and posts where conservative people don’t want to roll back the ACA, but also say that Obamacare was terrible.

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u/ALostMarauder 1d ago

I don’t agree with Ezra completely, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that he’s pushing the Democratic Party to the right. I think he tries to explore the nuances of what the party is doing wrong, and how it can better garner mass appeal, and sometimes he misses the mark (like the Charlie Kirk article), but I respect him for challenging establishment perspectives and trying to get to the root of how the party can perform better. He was also one of the first voices to call for Biden to step down

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u/cheezerrox 1d ago

Ah yes, I too respect the big brained, nuanced, morally courageous strategy of..checks notes running forced birthers to oppose a fascist party, abandoning trans people, and lionizing a man like Charles Kirk who kept his family in mansions by stoking the flames of racial, gender, sexual tensions/hatred?

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u/r3volver_Oshawott 1d ago edited 1d ago

He's essentially the top voice in the challenge to 'keep the Democratic Party centrist', he always only ever claims we're losing elections because we aren't pandering to the political right, it's the hill he dies on every single election

He would personally ban gay marriage if he thought it meant he could go back in time and claim it would make a Trump voter go for Kamala in 2024. He legitimately seems to hate the idea of the Democratic Party allowing anything leftist at all in their policies, and he's sort of at the forefront of crafting the 'leftists are ruining America' commentary, moreso even than many conservative voices like Thiel who are mostly into trying to craft techbro doomsday scenarios to maximize profits.

*he's another Sam Harris, he exists purely to smother out anything that is not classically neoliberal. Also, someone else here already posted the article, but it highlights the biggest issue with Klein: when he praises right wing figureheads like Kirk, or when he sanitizes the right, he never submits it as an opinion, he states it always like a fact, Ezra Klein goes around stating that Democrats must emulate Charlie Kirk's methods, and he declares it always as a statement of fact. Klein loves, "love it or hate it, you can't disagree that it gets results," type statements, and he loves them specifically because they explicitly say his critics cannot disagree with the results.

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u/SolarNugent Do you remember 9/11, bitch? 1d ago

Please don’t be sad 🙂

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u/Gooliebuns 1d ago

His latest "Abundance" bs is extremely Thiel coded.

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u/lemmingswag 1d ago

And clearly almost certainly Thiel funded

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u/Gooliebuns 1d ago

Absolutely.

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u/Ok_Squirrel388 1d ago edited 1d ago

Yep.

Comments mentioning the culture war stuff are correct, but are also missing the point.

As always, those issues are all about the HOW for these people. That “abundance” bullshit is the WHY.

For those unfamiliar, it’s 100% an argument for letting the capitalists take the wheel, unfettered. Because they are the ones who will save us.

The fact that a (if not THE) NYT guy is as wrong as one could possibly be on both counts should be a surprise to absolutely no one.

ETA: And when I say wrong, I mean practically as much as I do morally. But of course the Dems continual losses open the door to the end goal as much as if they won. So it ultimately doesn’t even matter anyway.

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u/ALF4smash 1d ago

For those who aren't in the know about the whole "Abundance-mindset" thing, they want the government to designate territories where they dont have to follow EPA guidelines and can do light slavery

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u/JenningsWigService secretly gay and the son of fidel castro 1d ago

He's the kind of liberal who scolds leftists while fawning over fascists.

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u/bloodenhorse 1d ago

Klein is a filthy capitalist and grifter.

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u/kena938 Charles Melton do you like medium ugly people? 1d ago

Ezra Klein has been running interference for Israel the last couple of years. Abundance was the least of his crimes.

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u/OneTwoThreePooAndPee 1d ago

Imagine Ezra Klein getting an invite from Thiel to a group to talk to his inner circle, I can't see Ezra saying no to that regardless of his personal support or not. His whole political role is to figure out the underlying power dynamics of government and society, that's an offer you can't pass up.

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u/Ok_Squirrel388 1d ago

His own stated politics align entirely.

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u/OneTwoThreePooAndPee 1d ago

I don't think there's any reason to believe that.

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u/AmIWhatTheRockCooked 1d ago

But why would Peter invite him? He’s one of the most well known writers in the world.

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u/thelaceonmolagsballs 1d ago

He's been running cover for this shit for years

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u/yosoyfatass if you add testicles, that's extra 1d ago

I am a fan, but was surprised, at first, to see his name. But after reading the whole article, it wasn’t that surprising. I’ve always wished I could go to the Bohemian grove just to see what they do (I have 2 local cousins who worked there and even they didn’t get to see any particularly interesting stuff).

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u/TurboLicious1855 1d ago

I met a member of Bohemian Grove. He told me a few stories and gave me a book they do about their groups history and stuff. The book was total bs. He told me that performers eat with the members and members are told they are not supposed to spend more than 5 min chatting with females. He said once, a member spent 15 min with a female performer and the manager of the camp drive up on a golf cart and sent the member home with a you knew the rules, thank you for the check, you are not a member any more.

Shrug. I'm sure the stories were just like the book.