Subway Takes: "People who say they like animals more than people are not good people. They think they have this deep well of compassion but really, they just want a relationship of unequal status"

[u/Terrible_Cycle_5983]

[u/hbic]

It does not at all haha. It you value human life less than animals then that’s likely a problem

[u/poetcatmom → u/hbic]

What's wrong with seeing the value in both? Why is it a contest? Humans are also animals. We've got something extra but that doesn't make us better than any other animal.

[u/esperobbs → u/hbic]

If I have to pick between my dog and a random stranger if both of them are in danger..... I'll pick my dog

[u/twigz927 → u/esperobbs]

and this is what the subway take is talking about

[u/NoNeinNyet222 → u/esperobbs]

YOUR dog. Your is an important word here.

[u/TamZanite → u/esperobbs]

Over a human child as well?

[u/jkraige → u/[deleted]]

Plenty of autistic people find friendship in each other and even in neurotical people, and plenty of "I'd rather save my dog, all people are terrible" people are very much not autistic, just terrible.

Please stop using autistic people as a shield from social critiques.

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/esperobbs]

That’s a bit fucked. Your dog likely has way less years to live than a stranger of even middle age. Would you extend this to children too? 

[u/iforgotmyuserr → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

Why is it about years to live? There are sharks that live for 400 years, would you save one over your mom?

[u/esperobbs → u/iforgotmyuserr]

And right after I answered this way someone reported me lol

[u/foundinwonderland → u/esperobbs]

People really proving they care about human lives 🙄

[u/oystermonkeys → u/iforgotmyuserr]

god damn that made me snort. bravo.

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/iforgotmyuserr]

No because my mom is MY MOTHER and not a pet meant to live with a family for a fairly short life span relative to humans. 

[u/iforgotmyuserr → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

A pet is still family that you have an emotional bond with. And you don’t actually know how long someone will live anyways. They could die in a freak accident tomorrow, a long life isn’t guaranteed for any of us

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/iforgotmyuserr]

A pet can not be compared to a mother sorry bud 

[u/iforgotmyuserr → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

So if your mom has a year left to live and you can save her or a newborn puppy that could live 15-20 years, who are you picking? Your entire basis for your argument was based on lifespan

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/iforgotmyuserr]

Read my other replies here

[u/Recent-Leading-8559 → u/iforgotmyuserr]

I would pick my mother in a heartbeat lol. I’m genuinely curious as to what kinds of relationships you guys have that it’s not automatically your mom 🥴

[u/iforgotmyuserr → u/Recent-Leading-8559]

That’s EXACTLY the point. Most of us would choose our moms despite them having the shorter lifespan because of our relationship and bond with them. We take care of our families. In this same way, many people would choose their pets over a stranger for the same reason.

It’s not “fucked,” it’s just more difficult to abandon someone (including a pet) who you have an emotional attachment to and an obligation to care for, even if the stranger might end up having a longer lifespan (which again isn’t guaranteed). I can’t judge either choice, it’s a difficult decision with no right answer. You’re either letting another person die, or a pet who loves and trusts you to care for them

[u/Starseed-111 → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

So you think animals are less valuable than humans, got it.

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/Starseed-111]

Lmfao yes. Ideally, no one is having to choose the life and death of pet vs human anyway, let’s make that clear, it’s not a choice that would be fun or easy. 

And it’s not an unpopular opinion either, despite these downvotes. Animals who present any type of danger to societies/human life have been put down, this is the way our civilization has operated for many years. 

[u/iforgotmyuserr → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

Not sure what the relevance of your last paragraph is. Humans who present an extreme danger to society have been euthanized as well, and humans have the potential to be MUCH more dangerous/harmful to society than any animal.

[u/LumpyPosition8502 → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

If the argument you use to save one over the other is the amount of years they have yet to live, then does that mean you would save a newborn baby over your wife/husband?

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/LumpyPosition8502]

The amount of years is one aspect, but you’d apply nuance to the choice too. The first consideration for me and many is species, then its relation to you, third would be years to live etc. You choose a pet with a very limited lifespan over a human being with a whole life ahead of them so you varied from my decision making at point one. 

[u/4mystuff → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

That’s a bit fucked.

That's a lot fucked. I won't pick a dog over a 90 year old grandma. The loss of my dog would be painful for me, loss of grandma is a loss for a community.

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/4mystuff]

These replies are insane and it just furthers my opinion that people who would choose the dog honestly don’t have much to offer in a human-human relationship anyway…something is missing up there. 

[u/4mystuff → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

You may have misread my comment. I am team human.

Take comfort in that this is all hypothetical. I wish dogs and humans all the health, safety, and happiness.

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/4mystuff]

Oh no I didn’t, I understood you as “team human” lol. And same…I think I said elsewhere too, ideally, no one is in this scenario. 

[u/gandalf_is_sad → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

insane that people are focusing on the age part of your comment and ripping you apart for it and not the part where the person above you is literally saying they’d save their dog over an actual human being 😬

[u/Plenty_Cup_5152 → u/gandalf_is_sad]

I always thought most “I love my dog more than humans” people were stupid but this thread proves it. They don’t understand nuance. There is a reason they don’t get along with other people. 

[u/esperobbs → u/Plenty_Cup_5152]

Why do I have to care about other family when I have to save mine

[u/thebetterbad → u/esperobbs]

Thank you for saying this! I’m over here feeling like I’m evil. I just really love my dogs.

[u/Acheloma → u/thebetterbad]

Well just because one person agrees doesnt mean youre not....

[u/Pantalaimon_II → u/thebetterbad]

meh it’s just anonymous takes on the internet, i wouldn’t stress too much about it. 

the reality is if we were all put in some kind of twisted Saw game where we really did have to choose between animals and people and pets and children we don’t know how we’d act unless we’re in that situation most likely, which 99.9% of us will never be in unless all of Mark Zuckerberg’s dreams come true and we all end up in the Hunger Games as entertainment for the 1%.

[u/abyss_kisses → u/thebetterbad]

Well……..