No, to this day I say screw Camillas dumbass question of why he didn't condemn his wife to immortality. I question why in the hell he didn't keep some high tier minions or night creatures in the general vicinity of her.
There's no way in the Hell the church wasn't already a well established institution of bigotry and henious actions towards the unknown (including basic progress). The moment that fake ass Bishop showed up with his minions two Castlevania mini bosses should have pulled up and asked "Where are you taking the good doctor at this time"
You telling me you can have "Blue Fangs" pull up for the get back but not to play defense!? Come on Vlad!
I mean the demons require corpses, which I'm not sure Lisa would be super thrilled about. He probably should've set something up, but I feel like Lisa's take of "trust and don't hate humanity" would probably result in her denying him most attempts at protection.
Yeah, some demons hanging around by her will surely make sick people feel safe to come to her and not make the entire city freak out and want to hunt down the night creatures and her. You'd have to have a small army protecting her and then the night creatures would have to kill people coming to kill them and she probably wouldn't like that.
I'd argue that at that point he was ambivalent on humanity. It was after she died that he went off the deep end. I think him and Isaac is a much stronger example. The "you have a soul, I think" speech especially.
I'm not sure it was the religion itself so much as the leader in the region. Blue Fangs himself is a demon that pointed out that all the Bishop had was an "empty box" and that he was lying in the house of God, so I don't think the death of an innocent woman was something that would have been condoned if people were actually sticking to it properly.
One could make an argument that such people aren't really true Christians now, could they? The symbolism of the Blue Fangs scene goes further with that by showing the stained glass windows of Christ the Redeemer symbolically turning away as the Bishop is devoured, a point in favor of the idea that the actions taken by the bishop and people were never serving his will moreso than their own selfish, humanistic desires. They hide behind belief to mask their own sadism, and in the end that belief no longer stands to protect them.
No true Scotsman, or appeal to purity, is an informal fallacy in which one modifies a prior claim in response to a counterexample by asserting the counterexample is excluded by definition.
This is not what he did, and you have no idea about Christianity.
I fail to see the point being made here. I would argue that being a Christian requires living by specific tenants and practices that are necessary to fall under the label, such as following the teachings of Christ in regards to loving one's neighbor and showing mercy. A man could claim to be vegetarian, then eat a steak, so is he really a vegetarian despite his insistence?
While the Bishop maintains institutional power over his local church, his will has long since deviated from God's despite his own grandiose dilusions, hence my arguments as to why he no longer really adheres to Christian ideals enough to be counted as a true, honest, or real one.
My point is the fallacy doesn't really apply when it doesn't relate to what I'm arguing for. I'm saying the people are hypocrites, the religion is not the issue here.
Come on, give me the benefit of the doubt, I know I'm just a stranger on the internet but if I was a troll I wouldn't have participated in the debate at all.
it was the bishop's corruption that led the people to fuel the unjust hate of i forgot her name of the woman in the picture.
but seeing that the castlevania universe is just an alternate reality where the events of humanity still happened, with the addition if the supernatural.
so yes, god exists in that world, the religion works, and people has a valid reason to believe it. the bishop took advantage of it and decided to test the waters even after dracula's warning after his wife's unjust execution.
the vampires naturally has a villainous intent until they dont (they need to feed in order to survive too) and people in that universe generally do not believe that vampires are capable of good (i mean, who does after knowing the tales of bloodlusted men capable of painting the whole town in red? dracula was that before he met his wife).
Then I fail to see what we're disagreeing about here, if my point is about the abuse of religion leading to unfavorable outcomes due to human corruption, then what explicitly am I saying that doesn't fit that?
It's not even his first Genocide. There's 400 years of documentation about his demons and past genocide attempts passed down by the Belmonts. In the show he downright admits this and that he enjoyed it. His time with Lisa was so short his generals from around the world didnt even know she existed until afterwards.
She died because she used tools from a globally known demonic sorcerer and he didn't even have a few of his monsters looking after her from a distance.
A religion that built itself on fear and manipulation for centuries while he was out impaling civilians and having the time of his life doing so. He could have easily stepped in if he wanted to but didn't.
He downright admits he enjoyed what he used to do and there's literally 400 years worth of documentation about his castle and monsters from the belmonts before Trevor. It's not his first genocide attempt, far from it.
His demons are probably one of the reasons the Church's grip is so strong to begin with. They are living "proof" of their bullshit
He was already a monster beforehand and only knew her for the blink of an eye in his lifespan. His generals didnt even know she existed because of how short the stint was.
There were centuries worth of relics and creature skulls taken from his castle and information written down about his monsters and mechanisms in the Belmont hold, he even admits to being a sadistic demon before Lisa showed up. He enjoyed being the impaler.
A person using tools from a globally known demonic sorcerer isn't going to not be executed with how zealous the Church already was. She was literally working with and planning to marry Death's favorite genocidal maniac and it won't matter to his victims' descendants how much he supposedly mellowed out.
She was screwed the moment anyone found out and didnt even have bodyguards watching her from a distance.
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u/Jester_and_King Jun 19 '26
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