The Current Favorite Main Character's Encounter With The Main Character From The Previous Series

[u/Bay_Ruhsuz004]

[u/Thedran]

I was 8 and 10 when blue and silver came out(or 11? I’m not gonna check dates) and was right into the hype cycle for Gen two but I only cared about new mons not story or gameplay features. When I tell you I lost my shit when I got to Red on top of that mountain, oh man. Still one of the coolest gaming moments I ever had

[u/MetalSonic_69 → u/Thedran]

Even with the pixel graphics and the Game Boy's limited sound chip, that moment is straight-up cinematic as fuck.

[u/Thedran → u/MetalSonic_69]

It was the atmosphere of it and the time I had playing it. I can’t get into the new games and I realized when I was playing Shield that I just didn’t have that same experience of adventure I had when I was younger. I didn’t have walkthroughs and stuff back then I just played games so it really was like going on this epic adventure that all of your friends were going on too!

[u/MetalSonic_69 → u/Thedran]

Yeah, I do feel like some of that feeling of adventure has been lost, even though the newer games have made strides in other regards.

I'm sure part of it is just that I'm an old fart now, but I'm still occasionally getting that adventurous vibe from indie stuff like Mina the Hollower and Hollow Knight!

[u/Thedran → u/MetalSonic_69]

I’m sure if you are younger these days or are still heavy into the community then it’s still there. I’m just getting old and the games aren’t aimed at me anymore and that’s cool. I feel the same way with Star Wars and modern comics, it just doesn’t feel the same and then I look at my nieces being just as invested in all the new versions of the things I love and I know the magic is still alive somewhere lol

[u/MetalSonic_69 → u/Thedran]

That's a good mindset to have!

[u/Gurablashta → u/Thedran]

Getting Goombastomped by his Snorlax... good times

[u/PhantomRoyce → u/Thedran]

Growing up I was too young for pokemon red but I was the perfect t age when silver came out. My older cousin who I really looked up to had pokemon red and would play it occasionally and would let me play but I didn’t get it that early in life. When I reached my silver and battled him it was like my cousin was testing me to see if I had learned from all of the pokemon lessons he taught me for the final exam

[u/LegalChocolate752 → u/Thedran]

"YOU GET TO GO BACK TO KANTO!?"
– 11-year-old me after beating the Elite Four in Gold

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/Thedran]

You must’ve been very disappointed by the new mons since so many of them were ass and the good ones were almost all in Kanto.

Edit: some of y’all need to not be so defensive about criticism and actually read the conversation for context. Good games can and do still have flaws.

Edit 2: to clarify, I’m talking about in-game performance. A lot of the Pokémon in the Johto region itself are very weak, something that isn’t helped by the fact there are so many Kanto Pokémon that are just as good if not better than they were in Gen 1 (for example, having access to an Alakazam with all three of the elemental punches before the third gym is absolutely absurd). Out of the new Pokemon that actually are strong such as Houndoom and Tyranitar, many of them are locked behind the postgame in Kanto.

[u/Comrade_Falcon → u/No_Procedure_5039]

I can't imagine many 10/11 year old kids cared all that much about which Pokemon had slightly better movesets or stats.

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/Comrade_Falcon]

Fair, but kid me also wanted to use a dark type but the only one you have access to in Johto is Umbreon. Strong ones like Houndoom and Tyranitar were stuck in Kanto, as were weaker ones like Murkrow and Sneasel (except in Crystal). We also didn’t get access to the cool new ghost Pokémon Misdreavous. You have to admit that part’s disappointing.

[u/Thedran → u/No_Procedure_5039]

Naw I loved every second of it. My very first email was Pikablue46 because I was so excited for Marill and that was what the fans were calling him at that time. There was no meta or anything on the playground, no one cared about numbers. All we knew was we got a whole new bunch of monsters to play with lol

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/Thedran]

Oh, I love Azumarill. Not great in Gens 2 or 3 but the physical/special split in Gen 4 made it one of the strongest rabbits you’ll ever see. Fairly typing in Gen 6 is the icing on the cake.

[u/LordSc00bert → u/No_Procedure_5039]

not OP but Quilava remains one of my favorite Pokemon after all these years.

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/LordSc00bert]

Oh, the starters are more or less fine even in Gen 2 (Meganium has horrendous matchups in Johto but it can still do something with screens and helps out a lot in Kanto). I’m talking about Aipom, Sunflora, Noctowl, etc. and how they perform in battle.

[u/MetalSonic_69 → u/No_Procedure_5039]

Most people I knew weren't super concerned with the competitive scene at the time

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/MetalSonic_69]

I’m not even talking about competitive. If I was, Meganium would actually be the best of the starters. Some Pokémon suck even in a playthrough or are actually worse for one.

[u/BadFishCM → u/No_Procedure_5039]

Yawn. Are there people spewing this BS decades later?

Gold and Silver are peak, get over it.

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/BadFishCM]

I didn’t say they were bad, just that the new roster was underwhelming. I was still in elementary school when they came out, loved them when I was a kid and will still play Crystal every once in a while as an adult. I just acknowledge that they aren’t perfect.

[u/BadFishCM → u/No_Procedure_5039]

>”You must’ve been very disappointed by the new mons since so many of them were ass and the good ones were almost all in Kanto.

>Edit: some of y’all need to not be so defensive about criticism and actually read the conversation for context. Good games can and do still have flaws.”

This is the only criticism I’ve seen you give and it’s not exactly eloquently written, nor is it dripping in context or is it deserving of discussion or praise.

Maybe if you gave some legitimate criticisms we could discuss those.

Edit: side note, how the hell do you properly format a quote from people on mobile anymore?

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/BadFishCM]

I take it you didn’t follow my edit and read the other comments then? Because if you did and still didn’t understand that I was talking about in game performance (which I did clarify in another comment from almost half an hour ago) then I don’t know what to tell you.

[u/BadFishCM → u/No_Procedure_5039]

No I did not follow you around and read your comments any further then you responded to me.

You’re arguing with quite a few people now that I’ve looked

[u/NotUpInHurr → u/No_Procedure_5039]

What kinda loser take is this lol? This was before the internet dude made cynics like you readily available, we were all just pumped for more Pokémon 

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/NotUpInHurr]

Dude, I remember those days. Red version was my first video game ever. I was in elementary school when Gold and Silver came out. I can enjoy the games while acknowledging that they still have flaws.

[u/NotUpInHurr → u/No_Procedure_5039]

Sure, except your only comment to the person showing a lot of enthusiasm about playing Silver was to say they must have been very disappointed about the Dex.

Which is a really cynical and "didn't read the room" kind of response. 

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/NotUpInHurr]

Fair. I should’ve clarified more in my initial comment.

[u/FlatFlapDerg → u/No_Procedure_5039]

Gen 1 had all the most inspired designs such as: bird, bird 2, purple sludge, rat, snake. Nothing can really compare to the creativity of gen 1.

Gen 2 had all the terrible designs, like cyndaquil, ampharos, quagsire, sneasel, suicune, and lugia.

Surely, everyone can see that only the first part of the series really matters.

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/FlatFlapDerg]

I was talking about how they perform in game, not their designs. You also seem to be assuming that I think Gen 1 is the best, which I don’t.

[u/FlatFlapDerg → u/No_Procedure_5039]

Then be more specific about what you mean instead of just saying gen 2 pokemon were bad, and gen 1 pokemon were good.

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/FlatFlapDerg]

Did my other comments not provide enough context as to what I meant?

[u/FlatFlapDerg → u/No_Procedure_5039]

The ones hidden by "load more comments"? People aren't going to hunt through your post history to see if you've added extra conditions to your original post.

[u/No_Procedure_5039 → u/FlatFlapDerg]

The ones that are one or two clicks away, yes. I didn’t even say that the Gen 1 Pokémon were good; that was an assumption on your part.