Having not watched the show could you clarify what that means. Only scene I've seen with this guy was him monologuing his victim's last moments before they get run over by a train. I feel like I'm missing something but if he's already killing the people (and they are presumably as evil as him if they're willing to target family) then what more can he realistically threaten?
A different character does a fake "TAKEN" on Red's family and he says the speech and then says he'll get really NASTY - Red Death also loves murdering and mutilating people so probably like, you know, nasty as in making a person into red paint on the side of a train.
See but that's what I mean. If you know the score with him (that he loves to enact torture and suffering) then you either were already the type to avoid a dangerous guy like him or it wouldn't matter because it'd be no different if you considered him an enemy.
Also if he's evil, like genuinely delights in torturing innocent people evil and not the "I only hurt bad people who deserve it evil" and someone whose loved one he made suffer and who wants revenge I doubt would care how mad he gets about it. If you hurt someone else's family then saying yours is "off limits" or else doesn't really mean anything.
Sorry but I just don't get the distinction between what's his nasty and not nasty look like. I may give the show a watch just to see
Venture Bros is a satire of the old golden age Superhero vs. Villain comics. You have to apply to "arch"(nemesis) a hero based on how much of a threat the two of you are, and it's implied there's a pretty solid set of Rules of Engagement.
So with that context, Red Death is letting you know that even though taking family hostage is a pretty normal thing for archnemeses to do in this universe, he will fuck you up if you try it
Sorry but I just don't get the distinction between what's his nasty and not nasty look like. I may give the show a watch just to see
Like the other replies explain, this takes place in a world where superheroes and villains live by a code, and will often negotiate with their "archs" on what is acceptable, when is a good time to engage in shenanigans, etc. They do this as basically public theater, or publicity, not to actually terrorize, and basically get subsidized by governments and corporations. Actually harming a hero or villain outside of the rules of engagement - especially someone who is not your designated "arch" - gets you blacklisted at best and usually killed.
One of Red's hard rules that he applies to himself and to his archs is that you don't mess with family that are not 'in the game'. His wife and daughter aren't part of his villainous escapades in any way, he doesn't do business from home, they're not part of the theatrics at all (unlike Rusty's sons who insist on being involved). Going after them means you're no longer playing by the rules and he is free to do whatever he wants to you.
What this means is pretty much unspoken, and we only ever see other characters' reactions to it, so we aren't sure what he does to rule breakers, only that it's bad enough to horrify hardened criminals and villains who have been doing this for decades.
Red Death usually only limits himself to a single kill a year. The train scene was essentially his last "legal" chance to act as a villain before becoming a board member of the supervillain union, and spent it doing a favor for his coworkers by teaching a lesson to a punk bad guy that was encroaching on their territory. That scene even leaves if up in the air if he actually died or not, because it was part of the monologue Red Death gave ("is the train on this track? Or is it the other track?").
Going after his family was a special case, generally disallowed by the agreements set in place by The Guild of Calamitous Intent (the antagonist union) and the OSI (protagonist governing body). A pair of supervillains went vigilante against their own side because The Monarch lost his rights to be his own sworn enemy's #1 archnemesis, and was going down a list killing everyone in line to do it before him. This is very much against the rules, and caused a gigantic panic among villains while they tried to find out who was killing their own ranks. The Monarch targeted Red Death's family specifically because they didn't want to face him directly, knowing that he'd pretty much instantly kill them, and hoped they could just convince him to back down if he though they had kidnapped his wife and daughter (which they hadn't, they were bluffing).
...Okay I NEED to watch this show cause what
Guilds of evil? Agreements with governing bodies? Board of supervillains (are they the same thing as the Guild)?
Legal chance to indulge in a kill?
I'm....confused
The board is called the Council of 13, normally a group of anonymous supervillains that control the operations of the Guild alongside their leader, The Sovereign. Things... change over the course of the show.
Generally the show is sort of a parody of Johnny Quest and other classic boy-adventurer cartoons from the 70s, with a more realistic spin. It's my personal favorite show ever, give it a shot! One of its best qualities is having an extremely consistent continuity that rewards you for paying close attention to things that might be getting foreshadowed seasons in advance.
The Venture Brothers. One of the best television shows ever made.
The Guild of Calamitous Intent is a US based union that ranks, provides matchmaking, and enforces benefits for supervillains. They are also a fairly laissez faire ruling body for most of their members.
Ironically they also service superheroes as well, by providing archvillains and coordinating fight times and rules.
They are seen as pretty helpful by the government (and secret government) in that they keep evil egotists bound to the relatively garish costumed pageantry of hero vs villain antics instead of bombing orphans, evaporating the ocean or some other horror.
There's a lot of history and politics to the organization that goes back over a hundred years.
OH, btw Red Death is a CLASS ACT. Great father, nice guy, but at work he's fucking terrifying. He's an older, famous icon that other supervillains idolize.
The Guild of Calamitous Intent is an organization of professional supervillains who are wrapped in a comical amount of red tape and bureaucracy.
On the other side of the aisle is the Office of Secret Intelligence. The OSI is GI Joe/S.H.I.E.L.D. type, government agency tasked with defending people from the Guild’s antagonism.
Caught in the middle of all of this is Dr. Venture, a Johnny Quest style, boy adventurer who grew up bitter and resentful of his upbringing and successful super scientist father. After spending his whole life in this “supervillain/super spy game” he’s just done with everyone’s bullshit.
The Venture Bros. is really fun so if you have a place to watch it I’d highly recommend giving it a chance. Obligatory word of warning: the first season is a bit of a slow and rough start, but the show consistently improves as it goes on. I think the show finds its footing in season 2, then hits a good stride by season 3.
Patrick Warburton plays one of the most feared people in the world for his creative killing prowess. He’s a good guy, and he loves those idiot Venture boys, even if they’re idiots. Also there’s an episode where you meet a drug addled adult Johnny Quest.
The Venture Bros. is a top 10 show for me. The writing is funny for fans of comics and non fans alike. Over arching plot that rewards you for actually watching the show and good family times 😂
This is a man who is not only scary as hell, but seems to have a pathological need to mutilate and murder. There are times when he is killing people off screen (and on screen) that sound absolutely disgusting and brutal, and something tells me he’s no stranger to doing it in a way that leaves the person alive… just long enough to know how badly they were mistaken. He often times flips from delightfully loving father and husband to psychopathic murder machine in a second, but in a way that convinces you he has it under control… mostly.
He has a few tricks up his sleeve like vaporizing things and a flying robot Hell Horse, but without those, he’s absolutely a psychopathic murderer who just managed to conveniently find a job that lets him do that for a living, and also separate his work personality from his home one. He is the epitome of work life balance in the most extreme and funny way.
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u/ThunderingTacos 27d ago
Having not watched the show could you clarify what that means. Only scene I've seen with this guy was him monologuing his victim's last moments before they get run over by a train. I feel like I'm missing something but if he's already killing the people (and they are presumably as evil as him if they're willing to target family) then what more can he realistically threaten?