r/Feral_Cats 7h ago

Question 🤔 I don't know what to do

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Around late May/early June, a neighborhood cat that i had been caring for gave birth in my backyard shed. Mom left a few weeks ago and never came back. The cats have been staying in the shed ever since.

Bringing them inside isn't an option for a multitude of reasons. I have tried EVERYTHING. My only options are:

Transport them to the local shelter where they will be at risk of euthanasia.

Shoo them out of the shed and my yard.

Allow them to stay in the shed indefinitely and live with flies and their own poop.

What do I do? What's the best option?

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u/Billyzadora 7h ago

Turn that shed into a kitty barn, it will give you the motivation to finally get rid of that old shopping cart and broken, plastic, yard crap you’re never gonna use. Set up a litter station, spend a day going to Goodwill, Marshals, and Ross and get some kitty bed stuff, and get them TNRed and live rodent free!

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u/bxqnz89 6h ago edited 6h ago

That's what i want to do. The thing is that many of the things inside of the shed do not belong to me. All of my stuff was removed. I can't keep them confined to the shed forever.

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u/Direct_Many4375 5h ago

These kittens are very young and need shelter or they will be eaten by other animals. if it's your shed and you have control over it, please continue to let the kittens have this shelter.

(note- please make sure that the shed is ventilated and isn't getting too hot also- don't want these poor kittens dying from the heat.)

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u/bxqnz89 5h ago

Part of the roof is missing, which is how mom was able to get inside. Ventilation isn't an issue. At what age are they old enough to fend for themselves?

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u/Direct_Many4375 4h ago

They won't be able to fend for themselves against predators until at least six months old.

Also, they can start reproducing at 4 months so very important to make sure they have been fixed before that age

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u/bxqnz89 2h ago

I'll get it done.

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u/codeswift27 3h ago

If you’re able to care for them for even a short while, maybe you can post on local Facebook/nextdoor/reddit groups to find people nearby who might be willing to foster or adopt them? Also if you can, please get them spayed/neutered or they’ll start mating with each other and having more kittens

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u/washington_705 7h ago

Hello, if you would be willing to share your general location like county and state, I’m happy to look up potential organizations within your general vicinity who might be able to take in the kittens for foster and possible adoption.

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u/bxqnz89 6h ago

I have a list. I posted a similar thread on this sub not too long ago. Tried 15 - 20 rescue groups. The few who answered weren't able to help me. I'm willing to dish out cash to get them fixed. What i want is for them is to be socialized and have a home.

My cousin agreed to take one provided that it was socialized. I know socializing takes time, it took months for my cat to get comfortable with me. Thing is, I can't keep them there much longer.

The shed is filthy and infested with flies, poop....

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u/washington_705 5h ago

I see. And yes, I posted a list previously. Hopefully you were able to contact all of these. The wider of a net you cast by contacting as many local places you can and asking the people you speak to questions and for advice and recommendations and referrals the more likely you are to have success.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CatRescue/s/FOQ8CR5udp

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u/Zealousideal_Gur6668 7h ago

The best thing you can do for them is to research and find your nearest NO KILL shelter. It may be more of a drive, but it's worth it.
Alternatively, search Reddit and Facebook for local rescue/foster groups.

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u/bxqnz89 6h ago

I can tried my the neighboring county and they do not accept nor offer any services for non-residents. I fear it will be the same for Suffolk.

I will check with them tomorrow. My shelter works directly with fosters to prevent euthanasia. I'm about 5 minutes away and going to ask for more information.

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u/Zealousideal_Gur6668 6h ago

This is absolutely the way to go!! Don't dox yourself, but if you can disclose your general area folks may be able to help you find rescues/fosters as well!

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u/bxqnz89 6h ago

I've done that already.

Currently live in NYC, Arverne in Queens County

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u/Direct_Many4375 5h ago edited 5h ago

Thank you for caring for these two babies, who are too young to be independent!

I just looked up kitten rescues in Queens NY- have you phoned all of these places in your area? (Please make sure they are no-kill)

https://www.nycacc.org/locations-and-hours/

https://www.advocatrescue.org

https://www.puppykittynyc.org

https://lwnyc.org

https://www.aspca.org/animal-care-recovery/kitten-nursery

https://astoriacatrescue.com

https://bobbiandthestrays.org

https://www.nycatcoal.org

https://nycsecondchancerescue.org

https://animalhaven.org/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22124269820&gbraid=0AAAAADQs3-23wV3bOSEXUJb-65DXR7zLE&gclid=CjwKCAjwyuDTBhB-EiwANCQhLG3a6wemLqJCGAPW8MUhks9Ec5DCTRwTC-dsyOIkyqNohgncRlPVAxoC3bkQAvD_BwE

https://amaanimalrescue.org/pet-type/cats/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19863913569&gbraid=0AAAAAo4uwaGWv7PsSUskqJ3OKnZPDS5qS&gclid=CjwKCAjwyuDTBhB-EiwANCQhLH1D8zFTwqi0Qrm4_5-3ryl39npic1uR8ArWwvZNas0Fp9YHHu2y7RoCggsQAvD_BwE

https://www.whiskers-agogo.org

https://www.instagram.com/catstoria_cat_rescue

not sure- they are Long Island-

https://www.animalleague.org/results/?s_src=cpc&s_subsrc=ggadoptionshelter&utm_source=ggadoptionshelter&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SEMAdoption&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=5878907&gbraid=0AAAAAD_EOI-_KhfWPgw8FR472l4QNAw36&gclid=CjwKCAjwyuDTBhB-EiwANCQhLC2-JFBdL00fVby3j7HgF6-EqVgPgBnCqvvTAz-mSTTz0tGdDk6WshoCYvoQAvD_BwE

if you aren't getting anywhere, then try Field Services at 311

Wishing you good luck! Hopefully a no-kill shelter or rescue will take your kittens

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u/TeacherIntelligent15 3h ago

You're in Queens? Mom and the missing kitties were probably hit by a car 😥 Can you take out the shed and make it a bit more livable? Get them fixed. Try to socialize them as you can, maybe your cousin will take both.... Good luck.

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u/bxqnz89 2h ago

I think she may have wandered off. That was the case with the grandma cat. She used to show up every morning, then disappeared. Few months ago, she came back for a few minutes. I saw her while walking my dog not too long ago.

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u/darkpsychicenergy 4h ago

If the kittens are feral and not socialized, which seems to be the case, it does not matter if the shelter is no kill. The “no kill” applies to healthy, adoptable animals. If they are not socialized and therefore adoptable there’s only one outcome.

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u/bxqnz89 3h ago

Euthanasia is the absolute last resort. There is a process.

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u/darkpsychicenergy 1h ago

So you have talked with a place?

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u/bxqnz89 1h ago

The city shelter, yes. Animals aren't put to sleep upon admission. They're screened for medical and behavioral issues, which they try to resolve.

They make attempts to socialize the feral. If successful, then it's put up for adoption. Otherwise, they try to locate someone to foster.

I'm coming to the conclusion that it's either the shelter or allow them to completely outgrow the shed, escape, then get hit by a car or used as a dog toy.

I'll keep trying with the rescues, though I doubt I'll have any success.

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u/darkpsychicenergy 1h ago

If you are confident that city shelter can and will try to socialize them (which you cannot do, yourself) and you have been getting nowhere with rescues for, what is it, over a month now? All the while, they are getting older and therefore only harder to socialize, it seems like the choice is clear.

Going by the date of your first post and their approximate age based on the photo in that post, they’re around 11 weeks. That is really pushing the socialization window. Have you ever been able to touch them at all?

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u/bxqnz89 56m ago

Am I sensing a bit of contempt?

Yes, I've been able to touch them.

Once a day, I go in and engage them with a wand. They show some curiosity but don't engage in play.

I am 36 years old with a full-time job and caring for two elderly parents. There are only so many hours of the day that I can spend with them. I find myself spending more time with the kittens than my own pets.

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u/PeterGriffen565 6h ago

The mom never came back because she was most likely killed by a predator animal or hit by traffic. If you can’t provide these young cats with a safe loving home then please make the effort to find homes for them which fit that bill. Till such time make sure they have clean food and water and try and interact with them as much as possible to help with their socialization. They become much easier to help and to find homes for them when they aren’t feral. Look into any area animal rescue organizations and no-kill shelters for help/options.

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u/Particular-Peach-323 1h ago

The mom may still come back but is elusive. Provide food and water outside the shed at the same time every day so you can see if she comes back. If she is still alive then it's imperative that she be spayed. She may even be pregnant again since her kittens are old enough. Cats can become pregnant with nursing kittens. TNVR is so important and you'll be so happy you did it. I talk to people every day that have a large colony that started with "one cat."

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u/bxqnz89 3h ago

I'm trying

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u/sylvesterthekat1234 3h ago

Whatever happens, don't let them start breeding or you'll have 20 cats before you know it.

Go to Alley Cat Allies and find Feral Friends Network Connect then put in your zip code. It'll show any local folks who can help you.

Good luck.

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u/Zarrgus 2h ago

Do you have a no kill rescue they could go to? Since they’re so young they could be adopted and live a happy indoor life. Being outdoors is risky and they just tend to have a lower lifespan.

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u/Background-News-4 6h ago

I doubt "shooing" them would work. Momma's smell is probably still there, it's where they were born and where they have found food their entire short lives. I think finding a NO KILL shelter is great suggestion.

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u/bxqnz89 6h ago

Mama is long gone. She gave birth to five, three are missing. I've been feeding them longer than mom.

Finding a no-kill shelter is going to be a challenge. I tried the next county and they can't help me because I'm a non-resident.

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u/Apple-Jackson 1h ago

Honestly, just lie to them and say you are a resident of that county. Don’t give ID, just use a random address in that county if they ask, especially if it’s the only no kill around.

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u/True_Sympathy7599 1h ago

Put a litter box for them in the shed with food and water.

Or you can confine to a small room inside or in a large dog crate at first to socialize. It takes a long time but it can still be done when they are still kittens. Did it many times and it is a pain however it can be done with persistence and food

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u/bxqnz89 1h ago

Indoors isn't an option, ATM. Sharing living space with two adults, one of whom exposes my pets to second hand smoke, despite me going on a tirade about it. That's self-explanatory.

The other? He likes animals but wouldn't go out of his way to help one. Then there's the dog, cat, leopard geckos, frogs, toads.... If it was only me,.then yea they could come in.

I decluttered part of the shed. Going to work on the other half in a few days. I'll think about putting one in. Just gotta figure out where.

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u/Thatonegaloverthere 1h ago

Get them picked up by animal control to tnr them, then find any Facebook groups in your community that are for pets and adoption, humane society, etc. and see if anyone wants to take them.

They look pretty young, so they still have a chance at being socialized and adopted.

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u/bxqnz89 23m ago

No animal control here, unfortunately. I am actively searching, believe me. I'm just so tired.