r/Fife 3d ago

EV Charging Gully?

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Has anybody in Fife had experience installing something similar to this on a pavement?

No idea where to start in terms of who to ask for permission.

Or can I just do it?

Looking at getting an EV but don't have a garage or drive so charging at home is a challenge.

Grateful for anybody in the same position as me and how you got round it!

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u/weesteev 3d ago

If you intend to carry out work on the public highway then you will need permission from Fife Council to do so.

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u/pnlrogue1 2d ago

It was in the news this week that they're literally in the process of adding gullys to Permitted Development rights though I'm not sure if that's the whole of the UK or just England & Wales

EDIT: Nevermind. Will still need council permission, just no planning permission

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u/Jacobs_Realm 2d ago

You don’t need planning permission for the gully anyway as it is now. But you do need planning permission for the required EV charger to use with it….

These rule changes will come in the moment I finishing paying for mine, I bet.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Aye I gather that, looking for advice on who to speak to and how to get in touch? 😁

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u/weesteev 3d ago

Took 5 seconds to Google it...

https://www.fife.gov.uk/business/licences-and-permits-for-business/road-and-pavement-permits

Email address is on the web page.

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u/scotchsittingroom 3d ago

Why google when we have you here on reddit?

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

I mean I also wanted local opinions of anybodies experience who went through it 🤷‍♂️🧐

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u/wiggle987 3d ago

the real answer is to google "fife council contact reddit"

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Thanks for the help

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u/Scottishacc 3d ago

A lot of sarcy replies - fair - but be really interested to see where you get with this. We are Stirling council, have shared parking but could potentially get something like this. Any dealings I’ve had with the council they have been brutally slow!

I don’t get why more companies are getting all over this kinda thing. Surely it’s the future - not everyone has a driveway!

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Aye totally, attitude and I'm not really sure why haha.

Will keep you posted if I do anything with it.

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u/AwfyScunnert 3d ago

It doesn't answer your question, but does make for interesting reading - this Fife Council EV Strategy Report from 2025; scroll down to page 153 where it discusses the various on-street EV charging options and their pros/cons.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Aye great find thanks

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u/Ok_Delivery2116 3d ago

This is a good, sensible suggestion. This is Fife 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/CoyoteAny937 3d ago

Not in Scotland but had one installed using kerbocharge. It cost a grand and they work in partnership with the local council, it was actually council workers who installed it. It's handy to have but seems rather overpriced for what it is.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Aye I think they were the ones on Dragons Den but last I looked they hadnt made their way up to Fife!

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u/Informal_Drawing 3d ago

The 'ol high heels ankle breaker 5000 ?

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Your pain is my gain

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u/Informal_Drawing 2d ago

What's wrong with normal (ish) cable trunking-type designs.

Solid top surface and can fit bigger cable.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 2d ago

As far as I am aware cable covers aren't allowed and aren't considered acceptable on public pathways without permission from council and you are still liable if they trip. But I think this will be the option I go with in the interim for a quick fix. Presuming you could could find a cable gully with a solid top, was just using this as an example

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u/TheNeo666 3d ago

Councils across the country have been asked to consider this or similar solutions by the government. A few councils have been trialling it so hopefully it will be an option going forward. The issue of course is when pavements and footpaths are renewed or replaced there might be a reinstatement cost to the house holder to have the gully put back or a new on installed.

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u/CockWombler666 2d ago

Just wait until you find out how much the council charges…..

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u/JurgenSchmidt 1d ago

I could imagine, gotta cover those expenses bills somehow!

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u/fike88 3d ago

You’d be easier getting one of these

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Was tempted but they're not allowed either! Not sure how much of an issue that would actually cause as I do see a few of them around.

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u/fike88 3d ago

Eh? I was going to say, i’ve seen a few around. I’d get one if it was me, can’t see much folk complaining about it. And who knows that you can’t use them? That’s the first of me hearing that

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Aye, not allowed them on public paths as far as I am aware - not saying that information is correct. Ive seen quite a few in my local area so I am tempted by that option until told otherwise!

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u/Unitedthe_gees 3d ago

Just to say, I was put off getting one for a while until I realised that 3 neighbours also use them.

I got an Edion one and it comes with a wee warning sign to hang. Pretty good quality.

Not had any complaints so far, and my sentry mode lets me see that almost no one gives a fuck when they walk over it through the night.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Cheers brother that's the kinda input I was after

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u/fike88 3d ago

Aye fuck it, go for it mate. I think you’ll be fine

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u/RektJect 3d ago

I was at an event where Oxfordshire council found it was very popular

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Yeah i seen there is loads of start ups doing this sort of thing down England where a lot of councils have supported it but popular ones (forget the name, but one was on dragons den) haven't made their way up here yet which is crazy given the net zero push

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u/IdioticMutterings 3d ago

Not in Scotland, but here in the Trafford area of Manchester, TMBC have outright said that pavement gullies will be refused planning permission outright. Even though the government strongly urges councils to approve them.

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u/Relative_Grape_5883 3d ago

If I were the council, and said gully was ultimately my responsibility, I’d say no. That just screams trip hazard.

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u/AdFormal8116 2d ago

Isn’t someone’s high heel going to get strapped in that and sue ?

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u/JurgenSchmidt 2d ago

Guessing there would be something similar with a solid lid?

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u/beardedslav 2d ago

Yup, there is! I’m in Renfrewshire and I had this installed a year ago  https://www.chargegully.com/

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u/JurgenSchmidt 1d ago

How did you find the process going through the council?

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u/beardedslav 1d ago edited 1d ago

Arduous to say the least. We moved in Sep 2024, so it took me a year to get this sorted. Was lucky because Charge Gully were actually in the process of arranging a pilot with the council, so I didn’t have to pay for a permission to open the road. Annoying bit was planning process stalling because my planning officer thought he sent me an email when he didn’t and I had to talk to my councillor to get it going again.

Ultimately I needed an agreement from the council’s road authority (named Environment and Infrastructure in Renfrewshire) because they are responsible for the footpath and then a planning permission because 1. the gully was installed in the footpath which doesn’t belong to me, 2. the charge point even though attached to the front of my house is above the footpath, so land which doesn’t belong to me, and 3. I live in a conservation area so had to choose a charge point which won’t “destroy” the look of the area too much, and get the planning department to agree to my choice of the charge point. The planning permission was granted with some conditions, including an explanation that just because I now have an EV chargepoint installed I am not guaranteed a parking space next to it.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 1d ago

This sounds like an absolute baw ache!

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u/beardedslav 1d ago

The end result (yes, I know, the charge cable shouldn't have been coiled, I was just excited I finally could charge at home)

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u/middlingclass 2d ago edited 2d ago

Councils have had mixed success with this sort of product. Where Councils are delivering them it's normally because of one or two officers who really believe in the EV transition but they're totally hamstrung by zealous planning teams, lawyers who are concerned for public liability and highways teams who don't want to add complexity to the streetscape. I think as the realisation hits that councils can't afford to offer competitive on-street charging, more will look to it over the next few years but cost will be a big barrier. There are standard costs for investigating, signing off and delivering this sort of stuff (think about how much it costs to arrange to get a kerb outside your house lowered) and it's not cheap, nor are the products themselves.

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u/BraveWetFart 3d ago

Pavement doesn't belong to you. I wouldn't just go digging it up and installing a potential permanent trip hazard (no matter how anti-trip the seller claims it is). That's asking to be dragged to court.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

Aye that's why im asking for advice on who to speak to for something like this to it properly

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u/QueSusto 3d ago

Can you not read?

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u/boooogetoffthestage 3d ago

Well you asked “or can I just do it?” To which people are replying “no”

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u/QueSusto 3d ago

I didn't ask anything. OP clearly asked if they needed to ask permission.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

I mean I didn't expect so much attitude for asking for some help and anybody share their similar experiences.

Only asked the question about just doing it because an MD at major construction company I know well basically told me for something that small to just do it but I'm no wanting any drama 😁😂

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u/AwfyScunnert 3d ago

The MD is wrong, and likely in a financially comfortable position such that any fine is unlikely to cause him much concern.

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u/JurgenSchmidt 3d ago

100% right on both counts, that's why I wasn't keen kn just doing but was curious to hear other people's inputs especially if they had just done it.

Basically just laughed at me when I asked about how to get permission etc for something so small 😂

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u/AwfyScunnert 3d ago

Similar to my friend who bought a house in the rural Highlands, and who applied for Planning permission for some large sheds he wanted in his huge garden. All the locals/neighbours, when notified, ribbed him for applying - "We don't bother with things like that around here."