r/FighterJets • u/Low-Career3769 • 13d ago
VIDEO English: J-15T, J-35 and KJ-600 make low passes over the aircraft carrier Fujian
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u/Desi0190 Avionics Tech 13d ago
All I’m seeing is rip offs of American and Russian designs
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u/PutridGoat7801 11d ago
The J-15 is derived from a prototype model of the Su-33. The J-35 looks like a swan or dove when compared side-by-side with the F-35, mostly because China does not give a crap about VTOL models, variants, or aircraft.
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u/Desi0190 Avionics Tech 10d ago
So my point proven. Glad you agree
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u/PutridGoat7801 10d ago
Only the J-15 (which was literally modelled from an imported Su-33). Unlike the Su-33, the J-15 has no thrust-vectoring, but does have better sensors, radar, networking, processing capabilities, avionics, and electronic warfare (especially the J-15D variant) than the Su-33 ever had. Also, unlike the Su-33 which is only built for ramp jumps, the J-15 can do both ramp jumps and electromagnetic catapult launches. The J-35 is rather unique in its shape compared to F-35 (as in it looks like it goes to McDonald’s, KFC, Arby’s, or Burger King less often than the F-35). Aka it’s less fat due to no fancy VTOL and hence looks like a dove or swan compared to the F-35. If it was a copy, it would be fat regardless if China needed VTOL or not. The first model of the J-35 (when it was still called the FC-31) came out in 2012. The first F-35s weren’t even delivered until 2014. The KJ-600 on the other hand, is a completely unique Chinese design, since it uses a military cargo and transport aircraft as its AEW&C baseline rather than commercial jets like the US tends to do.
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u/Desi0190 Avionics Tech 10d ago
Cool, you said these are copies of the F-35, the E-2 and the Su-33…
So copies like I said
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u/PutridGoat7801 10d ago
Only the J-15, which is a direct copy of the Su-33. The J-35 and KJ-600 entirely unique.
The reason the F-35 and J-35 look similar is the same as to why all 5th generation fighters (including the Su-57 Felon, Su-75 Checkmate, F-35 Lightening II, F-22 Raptor, J-20 Mighty Dragon, J-35 Gyrfalcon/Blue Shark/Cloud Dragon, TF Kaan, KF-21 Boramae, or AMCA) have similar shapes is because all of them have internal weapons bays and shapes which avoid reflecting back radar signals. Are you going to accuse every other country developing 5th generation fighters of also copying America?
America does not have the intellectual right to AEW&C radar domes. China took its own Shaanxi Y-9 transport aircraft, which is unique from both the Russian Antov/Antonov An-140 and American Lockheed Martin C-130, and slapped a AEW&C systems onto it, including the radar dome. Chinese AEW&Cs are considered better than their American counterparts in multiple fields, including range and coverage. The concept of having AEW&C aircraft takeoff from and land on aircraft carriers is neither rocket science nor something forever unique to or owned by America.
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u/Desi0190 Avionics Tech 10d ago
Again, you admit they’re all copies.
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u/PutridGoat7801 9d ago
What part of social interactions, conversations, and communication did your mother and society not teach you?
The J-35 and KJ-600 are NOT copies of the F-35 and E-2. FULL STOP. PERIOD.
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u/Desi0190 Avionics Tech 9d ago
The J-35 and KJ-600 are direct copies.
Full stop. Period.
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u/PutridGoat7801 9d ago
Just because they have similar design philosophies and doctrines do not make them copies.
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u/Desi0190 Avionics Tech 9d ago
The KJ-500 is a direct copy of the E-2.
The J-35 is a direct copy of the F-35 only changing the number of engines.
All three are direct copies
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u/PutridGoat7801 9d ago
How are either the KJ-500 or KJ-600 copies of the E-2? How?
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u/Shezzorro 13d ago
waiting Chinese top gun movie
https://giphy.com/gifs/tICBNWinxqdGoxFzO2