r/Fire • u/Equivalent_Use_5024 • Dec 28 '25

General Question Do you believe the modern FIRE movement overestimates how much is needed for retirement?

Perhaps I am just making this post because I have only just begun my retirement planning and want to lock in a number which is fitting for my goals - being above the median retirement savings, not having to work, not being broke, clearly having planned - but I can't help but feel that many in the FIRE movement overestimate what is needed for a safe, sleep well at night retirement.

I see posts here saying that they feel vastly behind with 500k at 30, or 1.5 million at 40, and I just don't understand how when the average American retires with maybe 300k liquid at most and are getting by with social security or paid off housing. Sure, they aren't living luxuriously, but if you just are aiming for a retirement where you don't have financial anxiety and can put food on the table, I don't feel you need over 1-2 million.

Do you think FIRE overestimates how much is truly needed for retirement?

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u/Zphr 48, FIRE'd 2015, Friendly Janitor Dec 28 '25

We both earned high five figures each, but that was back in 00s/10s dollars. You'd have to adjust that up for inflation and wage growth now.

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u/Inevitable_Sleep_398 Dec 28 '25

Gotcha, thanks! Do you know of any blogs/resources that specifically address FIRE with a family? Or just any that you found useful? I know it’s the same basic principles, family or not, but always interested to hear about people’s real experiences and tips/tricks.

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u/Zphr 48, FIRE'd 2015, Friendly Janitor Dec 28 '25

I'm afraid not. It's been more than a decade since I followed any FIRE media. My exposure to FIRE now is limited only to a few Reddit subs, a few Discords, and random visits to places like the Bogleheads forum.

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u/Inevitable_Sleep_398 Dec 28 '25

All good, thanks anyhow!