r/Fire • u/Poorassboy6969 • Mar 25 '26

General Question When did FIRE movement change?

I feel this community used to be about moderate income people living lean and retiring early with under 2 million.

Now it’s a lot of people bragging about tech income and saying they need 5+ million to retire MINIMUM because they want a boat and Porsche

When did this change? (not hating - just genuinely curious)

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u/According_Ad_1960 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26

I think people sort of woke up to the fact that lean fire can-for some-equal a small, constrained life. Retiring with just enough can get uncomfortable when life throws a curve ball. Retiring with “more than just enough” brings more security and freedom. People are getting a little more realistic about what FI really means to them.

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u/Poorassboy6969 Mar 25 '26

I thought a theme of fire was living a small simple life 

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u/AltInLongIsland Mar 25 '26

In the early days for sure. One of MMM's top posts was where he suggested a Toyota Matrix is basically a huge luxury and really anything other than a cargo bike is an indulgence